Having to fly the MiG-21, making tall claims of being able to fight a two front war and using unprofessional and frivolous terms, the IAF Chief will do well to convince his pilots and the bewildered Bhartis as no one in Pakistan takes him seriously....and remember you characters come here to learn so try not to box above your weight.
What are you actually pissed off at?
The fact that our air chief is stating what our other air chiefs have always stated or that what he said actually realizes your worst fears?
Also, if what our ACM said didn't irk you pakistanis you wouldn't have been making 20 different threads to discuss what our ACM said weeks ago and still discussing it.
As for coming to pdf, we come here to see the opposing pov and as for boxing above the weight we come here coz you lot certainly don't have the fortitude to come to our pitch.
The old proverb is, if you can't beat them then join them, but the Indian losers believe in the principals of if you can't beat them then grudge them.....your heartburn is obvious and understandable.
Actually, our principle is try and try until you get there, which we eventually do.
Unlike you lot we don't just skip from 1 sugar daddy(USA then, China now) to the other, coz we all know in the end they tend to backstab you. How long until China denies you tech?
We'd rather have our own product than depend on anyone else.
It takes time but we get there, always.
You lot on the other hand always have to look for someone to do your job for you.
The point being, right now, you have neither the monetary nor the intellectual capacity to even R&D a jet trainer.
As i said first acquire some comprehension as how many fighter jets were actually present on the ground then fancy your Tejas being present there.
Why does that matter pray tell?
If JF-17s had flown it would still be compared to Tejas, what do other fighter aircrafts flying have to do anything with Tejas and JFT?
You are just looking for excuses at this point.
Stupidity doesn't come alone but i guess it helps to be an Indian, who think making a simple flypast over the venue is same as the F-22 participating in the airshow'
Check your facts.
I suppose BIAS is second tier for F-16s and Typhoon as well
Looks soooo much like a simple F-22 flypast
So going by your wise wisdom, PAF pulled out of the BAS due to the presence of Tejas but hey the Tejas went ahead even though F-22 was there....Lol you Indians really need to get in touch with civilisation.
Regurgitating hypotheticals, getting desperate now are we?
You are just losing your thread of thought, no one is interested in your hypothesis here's what happened, IAF was a late entrant in the BIAS 2016 while PAF had registered and paid the participation fee, but turned tail at the very end without any given reason right after IAF said they were sending the Tejas.
Why should we fear the F-22?
It is already better than Tejas in every metric, there is no competition.
Competition is with JF-17, as both it and the Tejas are in the same weight class.
Yea, fifteen years after making first flight, it did a simple run over the parade venue, where as the JF-17 within four years of making first flight, it was performing over the venue and does so on regular basis.....first acquire the capsability and confidence to perform for the home crowd before smacking yourself to just to get rosy cheeks
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Another strawman argument.
Your rhetoric is a poor excuse for a show of confidence.
Again without actually turning tail at the last second, fly the JF-17 in the same airshow as Tejas then talk about confidence.
What does US has to do in a discussion relating to India/Pakistan except you digressing to save face
What does Su-30MKI have to do with JF-17 & Tejas?
You were the only one digressing, I just gave you lot the taste of your own medicine; if you cannot take it don't dish it.
Again you are dragging in an American product to salvage your tiny ego.....well let me put you in your deserving place, the F-22 belongs to USAF, which like any professional air force and capable air force doesn't have to paint a wreck of it's own aircraft in say Vietnamese or Iraqi airforce colours but then there is off course the Agni Pankh, reportedly 4th largest air arm in the world which obviously displays same level as rag tag Talibans in it's propaganda just to keep a billion Ostriches nurtured.....oh let me show you what it really means to be caught with pants down.
F-22 was an analogy to expose your weak argument.
Rest of your rhetoric is plain strawman yet again.
Maybe you should get off the net from being some expert on Pakistan affairs and try to work on the humiliation and embarrassment repeatedly brought upon you by your armed forces, if it's not the claims of capturing some spy pigeon or exercise claims like a cricket score, it's the recent disclosure by your PM on the so called surgical strikes....not forgetting the ludicrous claims of sortie count in the recent exercise.....or you can just wait for the next clanger.... which is never far away.
Pakistan is simple, you don't need to be an expert to know what's going on.
We all know which airforce sits idly by as their soldiers are getting fire bombed, so lets not skip topics willy nilly.
Humiliation would be a country begging for goodies from USA while the amkreekis delay and divert not giving those very same weapons to the said country, while simultaneously punishing the said country diplomatically and infringe its sovereignty and drone bomb them regularly.
That's humiliation.
Our sortie rates stand true, only a biased person or an idiot would believe some random buthurt pakistani on an internet forum over a living serving ACM.
Either way, it doesn't matter if pakistanis can't digest it, even the Chinese see it to be true.
The only one having problem here is you, the fact is your Tejas started life some 30 years earlier, it made it's maiden flight in 2001, yet after 17 years it's still crawling where as JF-17 first flew in 2003, in 15 years it's gone leaps and bounds.....since you Bhartis have the habit of washing the soap before hands and knowing your industry's track record, next year is likely to cause more heartburn and indigestion for you lot.
Still crawling?
What was JF-17's production rate in the initial few years after its induction in 2007?
Let me save you the time, it was the same as Tejas' is now after its induction in 2016.
As for the industry track record.
Of the original 230 Su-30MKIs 90 are sourced from Russia whereas the rest are all made in India including the AL-31FP engine and other critical units, with a variety of subsystems developed indigenously in India and its production rate far greater than pakistan wrt JF-17.
HAL has surpassed the original stipulated numbers of 230 and currently has produced upto 240 MKIs.
Now you pakistanis will say MKIs aren't Indian, so isn't JF-17 pakistani either, as it is "joint venture" in name only as all its R&D work is done by China with pakistan having little to nil to contribute in it.
Only difference is pakistan in the so called joint venture doesn't make a single crucial subsystem or makes as much of the JF-17 in pakistan as we do in India the Su-30MKIs.
Expect the same with Tejas.
Use common sense, which you Indians are badly missing. How you can compare a paper plane with a flying machine? When you get it really inducted in IAF, then compare it with a plane which is not only have been inducted and used in fighting, but also have integrated tens of weapon systems. All your BS of 'will have this or that' might give some satisfaction to your tiny brain but you appear as laughing a$$ to any sensible person.
Tejas was inducted into the IAF back in 2016.
