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JF-17 is now Battle Tested (Air to Air & Air to Ground)

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Pakistan’s military said on February 27 that it has shot down two Indian Air Force (IAF) fighter jets that had entered Pakistani airspace, capturing a pilot.

“IAF crossed LOC [Line of Control]. PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace,” according to Pakistan’s military spokesman. “One of the aircraft fell inside AJ&K [Azad Kashmir] while other fell inside IOK [Indian-occupied Kashmir]. One Indian pilot arrested by troops on ground while two in the area.” The alleged captured IAF pilot, Wing Commander Abhi Nandan, the spokesperson said in a separate statement, “is being treated as per norms of military ethics.”

India confirmed that one of its planes was shot down by Pakistani planes and said a pilot is missing in a statement issued on February 27 by the Indian Ministry of External Affairs. “In that aerial engagement, one Pakistan Air Force [PAF] fighter aircraft was shot down by a MiG 21 Bison of the Indian Air Force,” the statement reads. “The Pakistani aircraft was seen by ground forces falling from the sky on the Pakistan side. In this engagement, we have unfortunately lost one MiG 21. The pilot is missing in action.”

Pakistan has rejected India’s claim that a Pakistani fighter jet had been shot down.

The first MiG-21s entered service with the IAF in the 1960s. They are among the most accident-prone fighter jets ever to be inducted into service by the IAF. The MiG-21 Bison is an upgraded version of the Russian-made baseline MiG-21. According to unconfirmed media reports, the PAF military aircraft that shot down the Mig-21 Bison was an Aeronautical Complex/Chengdu Aerospace Corporation (PAC/CAC) JF-17 “Thunder” Block II multirole fighter jet. (Other reports claim that a PAF F-16 engaged the IAF fighters.)

“Proud to announce, I was project director for JF-17 Thunder program jointly produced by Pakistan and China during the tenure of General Pervez Musharraf,” retired PAF Air Marshall Shahid Latif said in a statement on social media today. “Today, same jets targeted and shot down Indian Jets which entered Pakistani Airspace.”

Some reports claim that the IAF jets were engaged with beyond-visual-range air-to-air missiles (BVRAAM). Notably, the PAF is in the process of integrating the Chinese-made PL-12 BVRAAM with the JF-17. (An unnamed BVRAAM has recently been test fired by the PAF.) As of today, there is no publicly available data to verify what aircraft type engaged the IAF jets. Nonetheless, if confirmed it would constitute the first kill of an aircraft by a JF-17. (A JF-17 shot down an Iranian drone in 2017.)

The JF-17 was originally developed to replace the PAF’s aging fleet of Dassault Mirage III/5 fighter jets by the early 2020s. The PAF is expected to induct 150 JF-17 combat aircraft over the next years, split into three productions blocks: Block I, Block II, and Block-III. PAC has so far produced 50 Block I aircraft and over 60 Block II JF-17s.

PAC has an annual domestic production capability of 25 JF-17 aircraft. “Pakistan is estimated to be capable of assembling up to 25 JF-17 aircraft per year without technical or logistical assistance from China. (PAC produces 58 percent of the airframe and CAC 42 percent),” I noted elsewhere.

Following the completion of Block II production, PAC will switch to Block III production. A two-seat trainer variant of the JF-17, designated JF-17B, will reportedly serve as the basis for the JF-17 Block III version of the aircraft.

“All JF-17 variants are powered by a Chinese license-built Klimov RD-93 (an RD-33 derivative) turbofan engine,” I explained previously. “The jet fighter is a multirole combat aircraft and can alternatively be armed with air-to-air, air-to-surface, and anti-ship missiles.” The aircraft has a combat radius of up to 1,200 kilometers without refueling and can reach a maximum speed of up to Mach 1.6.

The PAF JF-17s will reportedly be upgraded with a Chinese-made active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar system, which will significantly improve the aircraft’s combat capability. Furthermore, “a selected number of Block II and the future Block III variants also feature an in-flight refueling (IFR) probe, which suggests that the aircraft could be deployed for longer-range maritime strike missions,” I reported last year.

Malaysia and Nigeria are in the process of procuring the JF-17 for their respective air forces.

https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/has...ii-fighter-jet-engaged-in-its-first-dogfight/
 
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Thunder was not used anywhere in this incident. Only F16 from No. 9

A very recent facebook status of air commodore retired kaiser tufail

CONGRATULATIONS PAKISTAN AIR FORCE.

Absolutely brilliant performance by the PAF. Top class demonstration of professional abilities by pilots of No 9 Squadron. The most commendable part of the operation was the deadly response within 24 hours, as promised by the Air Chief. Also very encouraging is the fact that these were PAF's first-ever Beyond Visual Range (BVR) kills, achieved through masterly tactics which completely confused the enemy despite AWACS support. (DG ISPR misreported that F-16s were not employed). PAF lost no aircraft in the operation, so please don't believe the fake news churned out by Twitter and other social media.

Cheer up Modi. Cow Cola for you, I'll have a Pepsi. Bottoms up.
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According to Shahid Raza, two IAF aircrafts that entered AJK were a Mig 21 Bison and a Sukhoi 30MKI, he said that both were shot down however the sukhoi fell in IOK due to negative vector. We claim to have two (or three) arrested, one being treated, and other shown in video, the wing commander Abhi.

I saw a newly released video of Abhi drinking tea as some questions are asked. When he was asked which plane he was flying, he responded that he is sorry but he is not allowed to tell that, and that he is certain we already would know from the wreckage.


It is possible he ejected in Pakistan's Kashmir, obviously before his plane exploded, while the plane after being hit went through a trajectory into IOK.

And it may be why he wasn't allowed to reveal his aircraft. It also makes sense that a wing commander would be flying the Sukhoi.

However, what doesn't add up is that we claim to have two in our custody and that we downed two jets. but India claims that only 1 is arrested and that only a Mig was downed. So if Pakistan releases footage of second pilot being treated, it will seriously put a bad mark on India.

I think we might get into some kind of deal with india for the other Pilot and that is why he has not been brought infront of the camera. Because once he comes on camera then he has to be returned as per Geneva but if we don't bring him on camera then we might exchange him for our Retired soldier that was kidnapped from Nepal by Raw.
 
Thunder was not used anywhere in this incident. Only F16 from No. 9

A very recent facebook status of air commodore retired kaiser tufail

CONGRATULATIONS PAKISTAN AIR FORCE.

Absolutely brilliant performance by the PAF. Top class demonstration of professional abilities by pilots of No 9 Squadron. The most commendable part of the operation was the deadly response within 24 hours, as promised by the Air Chief. Also very encouraging is the fact that these were PAF's first-ever Beyond Visual Range (BVR) kills, achieved through masterly tactics which completely confused the enemy despite AWACS support. (DG ISPR misreported that F-16s were not employed). PAF lost no aircraft in the operation, so please don't believe the fake news churned out by Twitter and other social media.

Cheer up Modi. Cow Cola for you, I'll have a Pepsi. Bottoms up.
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This is contrary to the video of the pilot. Apparently he is within 2 degrees of separation so maybe I can get some information I also have pilot on F16 but I prefer asking such questions on weddings functions when men are most out of their element.
 
Thunder was not used anywhere in this incident. Only F16 from No. 9

A very recent facebook status of air commodore retired kaiser tufail

CONGRATULATIONS PAKISTAN AIR FORCE.

Absolutely brilliant performance by the PAF. Top class demonstration of professional abilities by pilots of No 9 Squadron. The most commendable part of the operation was the deadly response within 24 hours, as promised by the Air Chief. Also very encouraging is the fact that these were PAF's first-ever Beyond Visual Range (BVR) kills, achieved through masterly tactics which completely confused the enemy despite AWACS support. (DG ISPR misreported that F-16s were not employed). PAF lost no aircraft in the operation, so please don't believe the fake news churned out by Twitter and other social media.

Cheer up Modi. Cow Cola for you, I'll have a Pepsi. Bottoms up.
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DG ISPR misquoted and you were the pilot in f16 so you know now
 
the video of falling jet seemed to have 2 jets or 2 parts of planes falling down... do did we destroy 2 and capture 1 or just 1 and captre 1... plz interview the captured one as indian media saying that he is the one who shot pak fighter....
 
Thunder was not used anywhere in this incident. Only F16 from No. 9
F-16 didn't take part in the exercise. - DG ISPR
A very recent facebook status of air commodore retired kaiser tufail
Believing a retired personnel having little knowledge of current situation over an active one, reveals your true intentions.
PAF lost no aircraft in the operation
In other threads, you were congratulating Indians for their successful hit but when your lies were debunked by Pakistani members, you have changed your stance to zero IAF kill. I guess you are a bharti hiding behind US flag.
 
Thunder was not used anywhere in this incident. Only F16 from No. 9

A very recent facebook status of air commodore retired kaiser tufail

CONGRATULATIONS PAKISTAN AIR FORCE.

Absolutely brilliant performance by the PAF. Top class demonstration of professional abilities by pilots of No 9 Squadron. The most commendable part of the operation was the deadly response within 24 hours, as promised by the Air Chief. Also very encouraging is the fact that these were PAF's first-ever Beyond Visual Range (BVR) kills, achieved through masterly tactics which completely confused the enemy despite AWACS support. (DG ISPR misreported that F-16s were not employed). PAF lost no aircraft in the operation, so please don't believe the fake news churned out by Twitter and other social media.

Cheer up Modi. Cow Cola for you, I'll have a Pepsi. Bottoms up.
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F16s were not part of strike force. CONFIRMED by serving lot. They might be in the prephery but not part of strike package. PAF deployed SOWs,all home made , H series and REKs. F16 DO NOT CARRY these weapons. Only mirage and JFs do.

This is what was deployed.

 
Thunder was not used anywhere in this incident. Only F16 from No. 9

A very recent facebook status of air commodore retired kaiser tufail

CONGRATULATIONS PAKISTAN AIR FORCE.

Absolutely brilliant performance by the PAF. Top class demonstration of professional abilities by pilots of No 9 Squadron. The most commendable part of the operation was the deadly response within 24 hours, as promised by the Air Chief. Also very encouraging is the fact that these were PAF's first-ever Beyond Visual Range (BVR) kills, achieved through masterly tactics which completely confused the enemy despite AWACS support. (DG ISPR misreported that F-16s were not employed). PAF lost no aircraft in the operation, so please don't believe the fake news churned out by Twitter and other social media.

Cheer up Modi. Cow Cola for you, I'll have a Pepsi. Bottoms up.
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First of all DG ISPR is in service and more credible at the moment. Secondly, FB posts can't be treated as valid source and neither Kaiser Tufail will go that way. Time to keep it with Official Statement by DG ISPR.
 

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