Jewish settlers storm Al-Aqsa Mosque, perform rituals

[shuntmaster]

Through genetics i gave you evidence if you would have looked into it you would have known how factual it is for that i can even name literature that proves this but that would be useful for someone who is not hell bent on proving how Muslims are evil beings who are driven into banishing others which you keep on doing. Anyone who follows Judaism is not a Jew again you're lack of knowledge on the subject they give supreme value to their blood line and protect it.

How is it even possible? Do you have the gene samples of Abraham or Moses or King David to compare? Its difficult to connect even 2nd generation cousins through genetics, then how can you ascertain the ancestry of people over 100's of generations?

 

[Aamna14]

How can you disprove someone is a descendant of someone who lived over 4000years ago?
Its a fact there was nation called Israel in ancient time and populated by a people called the Israelis and who followed a religion called Judaism. Anyone who follows the religion of Judaism is a Jew. Over centuries these people were driven out of their land, but they didn't vanish from the face of the earth. Every Jew is a descendant of the ancient Israelis.

"Every Jew is a descendant of the ancient Israelis". Are you an authority to prove this or the evidence i gave you which is backed up by recent research and surprisingly by a Jew himself?

 

[500]

Little group of Jews entered Temple Mount (place that was holy to Jews 1500 years before Islam) for half hour without approaching any mosque and that called "Jews stormed al Aqsa Mosque".

But when Arabs make picnics and play football there - thats fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FekFUVgc4uQ

 

[Aamna14]

How is it even possible? Do you have the gene samples of Abraham or Moses or King David to compare? Its difficult to connect even 2nd generation cousins through genetics, then how can you ascertain the ancestry of people over 100's of generations?

If you were not so blinded by you're own bias against Muslims you would have at least managed to look into the evidence i provided you with instead of denying it before giving it any consideration.

How is it even possible? Do you have the gene samples of Abraham or Moses or King David to compare? Its difficult to connect even 2nd generation cousins through genetics, then how can you ascertain the ancestry of people over 100's of generations?

If you were not so blinded by you're own bias against Muslims you would have at least managed to look into the evidence i provided you with instead of denying it before giving it any consideration.

 

[shuntmaster]

If you were not so blinded by you're own bias against Muslims you would have at least managed to look into the evidence i provided you with instead of denying it before giving it any consideration.

There is no concrete evidence to disprove that the majority of todays Jews are not the descendants of the ancient Israelis. I'm not interested in conspiracy theories of muslims..
Even if we were to agree with what you say, then tell us what happened to the descendants of the ancient Israelis. They couldn't have vanished into thin air without any trace..

 

[Aamna14]

There is no concrete evidence to disprove that the majority of todays Jews are not the descendants of the ancient Israelis.
Even if we were to agree with what you say, then tell us what happened to the descendants of the ancient Israelis. They couldn't have vanished into thin air without any trace..

No concrete evidence? again you're version nothing to do with facts and as far as where they disappeared again like i said it would have really been useful if you were talking about facts rather than myths.You base you're argument on myths about who believes what rather then on what is proven. If you read those hefty books, i was referring to, that do shed light over these facts instead of proving the evil of Muslims you would find the answer to that one as well.

 

[shuntmaster]

No concrete evidence? again you're version nothing to do with facts and as far as where they disappeared again like i said it would have really been useful if you were talking about facts rather than myths.You base you're argument on myths about who believes what rather then on what is proven. If you read those hefty books, i was referring to, that do shed light over these facts instead of proving the evil of Muslims you would find the answer to that one as well.

Genetics alone cannot prove or disprove the ancestry of people, that too over 100's of generations.
Even the Islamic sources say that there were Jews in Arabia during Mohammed's time. In fact, when Mohammed and his followers fled from Mecca they were provided refuge by the Jews of Yathrib (now called Medina). Similarly the Jewish diaspora was scattered all over the world including India, Africa, middle-east, China etc..

 

[Aamna14]

Genetics alone cannot prove or disprove the ancestry of people, that too over 100's of generations.
Even the Islamic sources say that there were Jews in Arabia during Mohammed's time. In fact, when Mohammed and his followers fled from Mecca they were provided refuge by the Jews of Yathrib (now called Medina). Similarly the Jewish diaspora was scattered all over the world including India, Africa, middle-east, China etc..

I am not disagreeing with that i gave you evidence so either look into it or believe in myths i don't deny that Jews existed why do you always bring this up i just told you that modern day inhabitants of Israel are mostly not who they claim to be and thus religiously they forgo their right over that land not because a Muslim says it because their scripture says it and the term their scripture uses for such imposters is more than enough to dispel them from Judaism even if they are idiotic to claim that they are Jews by conversion.

 

[shuntmaster]

I am not disagreeing with that i gave you evidence so either look into it or believe in myths i don't deny that Jews existed why do you always bring this up i just told you that modern day inhabitants of Israel are mostly not who they claim to be and thus religiously they forgo their right over that land not because a Muslim says it because their scripture says it and the term their scripture uses for such imposters is more than enough to dispel them from Judaism even if they are idiotic to claim that they are Jews by conversion.

Even Mohammed didn't accuse the Jews of Arabia of being fake. Even if some of the present day jews are descendants of converts, it still doesn't take away their claim on land promised by God to the ancient Jews.. Its same as non-Arab muslims having a claim on Mecca, even though they are descendants of converts. Will not a Pakistani Muslim defend Mecca if it was threatened by non-muslims?

You say you believe that ancient Jews existed. So, what happened to their descendants?

BTW.. where in Jewish scriptures does it mention that Israel is not the promised land of the Jews?

 

[Bilal.]

Truth prevails. To eliminate/annihilate local civilization, there temple were razed, there women were raped. Now when the local civilization gain some strength, they are asking there rights..

Whats wrong in it?

As usual, spreading lies. Jewish people were murdered and displaced by Christians. Whenever Jerusalem was held by Muslims they were emancipated.

 

[Zarvan]

Whole of Israel is the land promised by God to the Jews. Also, the place where Al-Aqsa mosque is located is originally the location of Jewish temples built by king Solomon and subsequently re-built over centuries. Hence, that place is most sacred for the Jews since atleast 2000years before Mohammed was even born.



When did Mohammad visit Jerusalem?
Why did he choose Jerusalem as qibla and later change it?
If all the places that Mohammed visited are holy for muslims, why are the historical monuments associated with Mohammed and his companions in Mecca and Medina are being systematically being destroyed by muslims themselves?

There was no mosque in Jerusalem during Mohammed's time. The first mosque was built during Caliph Umar's time, many decades after Mohammed's death.

It was never promised to them this is fabrication by Jews

 

[pkuser2k12]

You believe in bedtime stories.. Fairy tales and ancient Drama.. He was killed by Local rulers for blasphemy and nothing more.. I hope you know what is blasphemy laws..


No one return from deathbed.. He will never return, he is long gone..

Watch this, and tell me where was Allah, Jesus or Bhagwan???

P.S. : I am religious but not Donkey.. Religion is code of conducts made for man to keep the order in house. If Jesus/Allah/Bhagwan is god of Human then who was God of Dianasoures? Diana-Allah? Diana-Jesus or Diana-Bhagwan.. ?? Think logical dude..

again "dude" i told you about belief of Muslims and Christians about Jesus(A.S)

God dont gave us free pass to rule the world we have to follow his commands to be successful here and in after life

this is not greek mythology that if Sparta is in danger god of war comes to the rescue


God gave us path to success via Islam and we are as strong as we make our selves Every Prophet of God face the most difficult life against pharos of that time such was their duty to spread word of God against "logic of the pharos etc etc".

The monkeys you are defending(talking about Zionists not all jews) are of the view that they are the chosen ones they want to make temple in the place of Aqsa mosque because according to their belief than their messiah will return and then they will rule the world .but as again i told you that Muslims and Christians belief is that he is the anti Christ and will be killed by Jesus (A.S) second coming.


now as for logic goes you and the "Evolutionaries" keep it and the science .we will use logic for science and technology to make life easy not to replace religion by science and that all humanity will evolve and become one collective consciousness and that stupid crap.

 

[PWFI]

Truth prevails. To eliminate/annihilate local civilization, there temple were razed, there women were raped. Now when the local civilization gain some strength, they are asking there rights..

Whats wrong in it?

That's exactely what happen when you didn't learn history-----These jews are european jews not "semetic jews"----it's like millions of chinese muslims claim tomorrow they are arabs.

 

[Aamna14]

Even Mohammed didn't accuse the Jews of Arabia of being fake. Even if some of the present day jews are descendants of converts, it still doesn't take away their claim on land promised by God to the ancient Jews.. Its same as non-Arab muslims having a claim on Mecca, even though they are descendants of converts. Will not a Pakistani Muslim defend Mecca if it was threatened by non-muslims?

You say you believe that ancient Jews existed. So, what happened to their descendants?

BTW.. where in Jewish scriptures does it mention that Israel is not the promised land of the Jews?

My God you have something against Muslims don't you? lol Islam is not about blood line thats why anyone can become a Muslim neither does the Quran say that a convert can't enter Makkah so there is a huge difference don't compare the incomparable secondly as i told you if you do a little research you would find a lot of literature telling you where they went so don't ask me what i already told you you just don't like to accept facts and keep harping the same thing over and over again. Yes promised to the Original Jews not the self proclaimed ones and the Jewish God promises that those who have their lineage to back their claims would get the land and nobody else.

 

[Sugarcane]

BTW.. where in Jewish scriptures does it mention that Israel is not the promised land of the Jews?

I once watched a video of Rabbi saying that as per scripture Jews should not establish a state or political entity and wait for promised Messiah who will come and establish Jewish state.