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It was a mistake-BNP leaders say party shifting from anti-India stance

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Tarique symbol of violent politics

Another note: Some of you guys really need to grow up.

Don't forget DS/PA group whipped up lots of propaganda headline against him most of which are still unsubstantiated. What TR did or did not do still could not be proved in court. That is not saying he is a saint or did not do any wrong. US problem is not alleged corruption because US patronizes dictators, warlords, mafia terrorist in every corner of the world. Main issue is US sponsored and supported interim regime tortured him and disabled him. US fears he will go after those who did it including US point man Moeen U and Fakruddin who are currently sheltered by US.
 
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It was a long time coming, they are not able to digest it.

The dreams of BD taking over the seven sisters starting to look distant, might be a mirage though...:lol:

Sh!T happens, maybe they were'nt destined for it in the first place. :rolleyes:
 
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New Delhi courts an ‘enemy’ like a friend


New Delhi courts an

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Begum Khaleda Zia was accorded a warm reception during her recent visit to India. But the former Prime Minister of Bangladesh has always been anti-India. There’s nothing to suggest that she has changed

By the the time this column appears, Begum Khaleda Zia, leader of the Opposition in Bangladesh and a former Prime Minister of that country, would be close to the end of her week-long visit. She should be pleased with the outcome. She has had a half-an-hour-long meeting with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh where, what might be called in ‘diplomatese’ as “matters of mutual interest”, were discussed. Mr Singh reportedly assured her that India will take Bangladesh along the path of economic growth it pursued and will not undermine Dhaka’s interests.

Things seem to have gone pleasantly. While Begum Zia sought greater transparency in India’s construction of dams on rivers common to both countries, Mr Singh assured her that his Government was trying to achieve political consensus on the Teesta waters treaty blocked by West Bengal’s Chief Minister, Ms Mamata Banerjee, and on the exchange of border enclaves. Begum Zia was reportedly appreciative of the steps taken by India to liberalise trade with Bangladesh, increasing garment imports from the latter, providing it with power and strengthening its economic infrastructure. She is said to have been positive and forthcoming on terrorism and the activities of cross-border insurgent groups which are important to New Delhi.

The question is: What does India want from the visit? The basic objective apparently is to ensure that the good relations it enjoys with Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina’s Government continues with the successor regime — whoever heads it — after the general election due in the country latest by early 2014. An invitation to Lt-Gen HM Ershad, a former President of Bangladesh and head of the Bangladesh Jatiya Party, who visited India recently, is said to have been a part of the same exercise.

The approach, eminently sensible on paper, will recoil. Like her late husband President Ziaur Rahman, Begum Zia is intensely anti-Indian and instinctively pro-Pakistan. In November 1977, President Rahman converted the Directorate of Forces Intelligence, set up in 1972, into the Directorate-General of Forces Intelligence. An organisational clone of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate and linked almost umbilically to it, the DGFI was established shortly after a visit to Dhaka by the then ISI chief, Lt-Gen Ghulam Jillani Khan. Many of its officers have been trained at the ISI’s training centre at Islamabad.

Moloy Krishna Dhar, a former joint director of the Intelligence Bureau, points out in Fulcrum of Evil: ISI-CIA-Al Qaeda Nexus, that the ISI and the *** began collaborating from 1976 in “imparting training and supplying arms” to the militant groups of north-eastern India. The process, which ran into difficulties after Sheikh Hasina became Prime Minister for the first time in 1996, picked up sharply after Begum Zia began her second innings in 2001. Dhar’s book, published in 2006, states that the number of camps of North-Eastern rebels in Bangladesh “have increased by about 40 in the last few months touching the figure of 180-200.”

Begum Zia’s own deeply anti-India approach was intensified by that of her coalition partner, Jama’at-e-Islami Bangladesh, which, in its policy on national defence, identified India as Bangladesh’s only enemy and called for the inculcation of the spirit of jihad in the country’s military against India’s Armed Forces. Given the close links which the Jama’at has with Pakistan and fundamentalist Islamist organisations like the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami Bangladesh, Jama’at-ul Mujahideen Bangladesh and Hizbut Tawhid, it is hardly surprising that Bangladesh became a hub of ISI's anti-India terror operations during 2001-2006.

The Jama’at called the shots in Begum Zia’s Government and savagely persecuted the minorities. Ahmadiyyas were targeted relentlessly. Hindus came under vicious attack even before Begum Zia returned to power following the general election on October 1, 2001. Terrorised by murders, rapes, looting of property, burning of houses, and large-scale assaults, over 15,000 Hindus fled to the border areas of West Bengal. About 100,000 more were reportedly trying to follow suit but were being hindered by the police and the paramilitary personnel.

The Government of Bangladesh, of course, sought to play down the scale of the atrocities. In a statement in the country’s Jatiya Sangsad (National Parliament), Home Minister Altaf Hussain Choudhury, put the number of those killed and raped over a period of 25 days at 266 and 213 respectively. While these figures are high enough, the actual incidence of the crimes appears to have been much higher. According to a report in the widely-circulated Bangla daily Janakantha (The Voice of the People), the atrocities on Hindus exceeded in places even those that were inflicted on them during the 1971 liberation war.

In a piece in the same daily of October 16, one of Bangladesh’s greatest poets ever, Samsur Rahman, wrote, “It is a matter of regret that atrocities by terrorists on the minorities have been continuously increasing in many parts of Bangladesh, particularly in the muffosils, over several days. There have been repeated attacks; the homes of the minorities have become deserted. Women have been victims of rape. To save their lives and honour, many have been compelled to leave their homes and hearths with heavy hearts and embrace endless agonies with tear-laden eyes in the hope of finding refuge in India.” (Translated from Bengali by this writer.)

Besides Begum Zia’s background and record in office, there is the experience of 2001, when her son Tareq Zia was brought to India, taken around, introduced to industrialists and generally given the red-carpet treatment. The sustained contempt and hostility with which she treated India after her return to power, is public knowledge. There is no indication that it will be any different if she again becomes Prime Minister. Meanwhile, nothing prevents Begum Zia from projecting her visit as an indication of India’s recognition of the inevitability of her return to power and an indication of its endorsement of the prospect. Recall the subtle manner in which she portrayed the outcome of her recent visit to China, announcing several promises made by Beijing in a manner which suggested that it was negotiating with a

Prime Minister elect.

This may well persuade a section of undecided voters to swing to her support for the rewards that await those on the winning side. Sheikh Hasina can hardly be blamed if she is not amused. And India will only have itself to blame if it loses a genuine friend. And what happens if she and the Awami League retain power, something which can by no means be ruled out?
 
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Lets come back to the topic. Go through the last couple of post before mine and see why I had to post that. Well Indians are dark and short usually. It is the physical characteristics of the Indians then why feel ashamed of it.

Indians looks thousand time better then BDians

you people looks ****

Can you deny this caste system in India!!!

No one is denying but only lowlife like you can think caste and religion for every thing.
 
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Indians looks thousand time better then BDians

you people looks ****



No one is denying but only lowlife like you can think caste and religion for every thing.

look at My avatar! Do you really believe a border changed physical feature?? If anyone looks bad its people from south which is not Bangla!! Bangla Babus are cool!!
 
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look at My avatar! Do you really believe a border changed physical feature?? If anyone looks bad its people from south which is not Bangla!! Bangla Babus are cool!!

ho ho..Is that it ? grow up man, literally.

And your avatar sucks man. Trying to sneak into India by joining BD with India. Jeez. :P
 
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On a side note, cant believe this stupid Aryan Invasion Theory which has been debunked after extensive scientific and genetic studies, is still taught in books *facepalm*
 
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Too much of Bharat nawazi will earn lanat for Begum Zia and BNP. If people of Bd are to tolerate dalals and chamchas of Bharat then they are better of with Awami leauge. Begum Zia is not clueless about how people of Bd feel about Bharat. If she ignore their sentiment and think that she can regain power with the blessing of Bharat then she will be thrown into gutter along with BNP.
 
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ho ho..Is that it ? grow up man, literally.

And your avatar sucks man. Trying to sneak into India by joining BD with India. Jeez. :P

Sneak into where? India? Wot? Where 40% people use latrines??? Seriously man, stop joking, be serious!!
 
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Poor bangladeshi members on this forum .....

I can only laugh on their situation . ..... May be BNP will not shift their policies but all jamaties have nothing to say now
 
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Don't forget DS/PA group whipped up lots of propaganda headline against him most of which are still unsubstantiated. What TR did or did not do still could not be proved in court. That is not saying he is a saint or did not do any wrong. US problem is not alleged corruption because US patronizes dictators, warlords, mafia terrorist in every corner of the world. Main issue is US sponsored and supported interim regime tortured him and disabled him. US fears he will go after those who did it including US point man Moeen U and Fakruddin who are currently sheltered by US.

What do you think is the US's position on Joy? I'm very, very curious to know.

Too much of Bharat nawazi will earn lanat for Begum Zia and BNP. If people of Bd are to tolerate dalals and chamchas of Bharat then they are better of with Awami leauge. Begum Zia is not clueless about how people of Bd feel about Bharat. If she ignore their sentiment and think that she can regain power with the blessing of Bharat then she will be thrown into gutter along with BNP.

Avarice can get one so far :lol:

I think we are missing an important point here.

If Zia and Hasina along with their sons go into the gutters, so will their respective parties.

So, no AL. And no BNP.

The question is: Who'd take that power vacuum?

Possible answers:

1. Yunus's Citizen Power? They never positioned themselves as a mainstream political party out to get on a brawl with BNP and AL. It was positioned to be sidelined party. Kinda like a forum.

2. LDP is garbage.

3. BCP is a walking zombie.

4. Jamaat has little credibility.

Maintaining trade links are important with both India and China. But at what cost? Hopelessly corrupt and self-centered "leaders"?

I think that is a big point there which many Bangladeshis take factor into.

It is funny really, they can't even secure funds for a 4 km long bridge, and they are still dreaming about this "transit".

It appears Munshi was right all along.
 
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Friday, November 2, 2012Front Page

It was a mistake
Many top BNP leaders say party shifting from anti-India stance


It was a mistake

Rashidul Hasan
BNP Chairperson Khaleda Zia and a majority of her party policymakers are apparently making a u-turn on their years-long “anti-India” stance, party insiders observe.

At the same time, some political analysts say after reaping benefits over the years, the BNP has been shifting its strategy in the wake of the changed domestic, regional and global socio-economic and political conditions.

Some top BNP leaders say the realisation that the party had to pay much for its anti-India strategy and that the world's largest democracy has emerged as a big factor in regional and international politics are the reasons for this shift in position.

Former foreign minister M Morshed Khan observed that relations between the BNP and India could not be developed to an expected level due to “blame game politics”. “And madam's latest India visit is certainly a change in her mindset regarding building relations with India.”

He also said it would be foolish to bank on anti-India politics just to please the country's people, as they very well understand the importance of good relations with India.

“Those days of anti-India politics are gone,” he added.


Speaking to this correspondent, three BNP leaders, including Lt Gen (retd) Mahbubur Rahman, said a number of other BNP policymakers, two allies -- Jamaat-e-Islami and Islami Oikya Jote -- and some close aides had convinced Khaleda Zia into taking the anti-India position.

The BNP made various mistakes regarding relations with India, Mahbubur Rahman, a BNP standing committee member, told The Daily Star at his Banani DOHS residence on Tuesday.

“The party had been pursuing wrong policies, especially from 2001, when it made a political alliance with the Jamaat-e-Islami and Islami Oikkya Jote.”

The former army chief said, “The BNP's new stance on India reflects the changed mindset of the party chairperson as well as her realisation to this end.”

“The two Islamist parties 'Islamised' the BNP-led four-party alliance and with the support of a section of BNP policymakers, the two Islamist parties convinced the BNP chief into following an anti-India stance to exploit popular sentiment against India.”

He said the party chief after long years had understood that the anti-India stance would not do any good for her party.

“Many of us earlier had tried to make the party chief realise the matter but failed as our opposition in the party and in the alliance were more powerful and the party chief had no alternative but to listen to the powerful lobby,” he added.

“Although it was not on the agenda, some of the policymakers, including myself, at several meetings called upon the party chairperson to shed the anti-India stance,” Mahbubur recalled. He declined to go into details.


He said his relations with the party had certainly deteriorated over the 10-truck arms haul during the past BNP-Jamaat rule in 2004. India widely considered that the arms cache had been brought in for some Indian separatist organisations.

Besides, the BNP's links with the world's largest neighbouring country deteriorated further after the August 21 grenade attack on an Awami League rally in 2004.

“And there were BNP Senior Vice-Chairman Tarique Rahman's various controversial activities when the party was in power in 2001-06,” he said.

“BNP policymakers now realise that the party has to be sincere to resolve all unresolved bilateral problems with India when it takes office.”

However, he added, “It's also true that the BNP had not seen a cordial attitude coming from India either till 2010.”

According to party insiders, the former army chief along with senior leaders Tariqul Islam, Moudud Ahmed, M Morshed Khan and Shamsher Mobin Chowdhury are among those who played a vital role to repair the party's “adverse relations” with India.

Before Khaleda's New Delhi visit this week, M Morshed Khan toured India twice to do the groundwork to this end. Even Mosaddek Ali Falu, a close aide to Khaleda, had gone to India for the same purpose, BNP sources said.

Talking to this correspondent at his Mohakhali office on Wednesday, Morshed Khan admitted he had visited India for seven days from October 9. But, he said, it was a personal visit and it had nothing to do with the visit of Khaleda Zia.

Also, Indian President Pranab Mukherjee played a vital role in changing his country's stance on relations with the main opposition party of Bangladesh.

“We got a clear signal of its changed mindset when Pranab Babu categorically mentioned that his country wanted to maintain good relations with all democratic parties of Bangladesh and the people of Bangladesh, not with any particular party,” said BNP standing committee member Moudud Ahmed.

He added this was for the first time any Indian prime minister had invited Khaleda Zia when she was in opposition.

“We have to accept that we have to have good relations with India to resolve all outstanding issues with the largest and powerful neighbour.”

Another BNP policymaker, seeking anonymity, said the BNP and its alliance had used “indecent” language against India on several occasions, especially when the party was in opposition. This attitude breached Indian trust and confidence in the BNP.

It's mind boggling to see that Psych-Cacophony-rats are popping up as BNP wala's mouth-pieces to have resemblance of Valmiky's imaginative power. Pray-say now at where in Khaleda has stated that her previous policy has been flawed? Are Chunga Morshed and Juta-Pita Mahbub the only 2 samples that represent the significance of BNP's bulk's mindsets? And who is that anonymous leader? Then why only Daily Star + Shabiuddin disseminate it but not 100s of other Medias, men? Or Daily Star has been trying to sell its own agenda by taking Khaleda's Bharati-boat ride?
 
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Lets come back to the topic. Go through the last couple of post before mine and see why I had to post that. Well Indians are dark and short usually. It is the physical characteristics of the Indians then why feel ashamed of it.

caste-system.jpg



Can you deny this caste system in India!!!

You know what was taught to west Pakistanis before 1971 - Bangladeshis are short , dark and eat rice :rofl: , which is one reasn they treated you like garbage. What they taught was morally wrong , though factually 100% right. Indians are a thousand times better looking than bangladeshis.
 
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You know what was taught to west Pakistanis before 1971 - Bangladeshis are short , dark and eat rice :rofl: , which is one reasn they treated you like garbage. What they taught was morally wrong , though factually 100% right. Indians are a thousand times better looking than bangladeshis.

Dnt make yourself a laughing stock saying Indians are better looking.

Well it actually depends. Here in Bangladesh there is a general perception is that Punjabis as fatheaded and nothing in their brain (even many Indians termed Indian punjabis as truck driver) and south Indians are as dark as the african and bad looking. But does it really a matter.
 
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Jeez...appears as if there are lots of short, dark-skinned, ugly boys here :lol:

Ah well...no harm there. My blood is red, your blood is red.
 
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