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[AmirPatriot]

IRGC unveiled a new air to ground anti armor missile dubbed "Azarakhsh".
length: 3096 m
diameter: 127 mm
weight: 70 kg
firing range: 10 km
missile's seeker lock range: 6 km
max speed:550 m/s

پروژه موشکی «آذرخش» در هوانیروز سپاه رونمایی شد+تصاویر

What on earth...? That's an AIM-9... AIM-9 anti-armour version...

 

[Fafnir]

IRGC unveiled a new air to ground anti armor missile dubbed "Azarakhsh".
length: 3096 m
diameter: 127 mm
weight: 70 kg
firing range: 10 km
missile's seeker lock range: 6 km
max speed:550 m/s

پروژه موشکی «آذرخش» در هوانیروز سپاه رونمایی شد+تصاویر

I seriously doubt that these pics are the atgm weapon in question as this is clearly an old sidewinder or possibly more likely an old aa2 atoll with what judging from its front fin set up looks to be possibly a modified r13-m1 front section altho the seeker looks to be bigger,this is clearly an infrared guided a2a missile not an atgm.

 

[mohsen]

another view of Azarakhsh missile:

I seriously doubt that these pics are the atgm weapon in question as this is clearly an old sidewinder or possibly more likely an old aa2 atoll with what judging from its front fin set up looks to be possibly a modified r13-m1 front section altho the seeker looks to be bigger,this is clearly an infrared guided a2a missile not an atgm.

Please!

AGM-87 Focus
AGM-122 Sidearm

The AGM-122 Sidearm was produced by the re-manufacture of AIM-9C missiles that had been taken out of service

 

[skyshadow]

 

[Fafnir]

Please!

AGM-87 Focus
AGM-122 Sidearm

The AGM-122 Sidearm was produced by the re-manufacture of AIM-9C missiles that had been taken out of service

The agm-122s are in fact anti-radiation[anti-radar] weapons and these werent converted from the regular ir homing sidewinders but from the sarh [radar guided] sidewinder variant.
The agm-87 was however converted from ir homing sidewinders but was used primarily against soft skinned vehicles and then only for a very short period probably because there were simply much better purpose designed A2G/ATGM weapons available.
I`m not arguing that you cant use these a2a missiles in another role as an ad hoc ground attack munition of sorts,but the simple fact is that they were designed to do a very,very different job entirely so their suitability in this role,especially as an A2G/ATGM is pretty questionable,altho I suppose that if you have large stocks of these weapons laying around and need to find some sort of a use for them that could be one possible option,but I think that with a specialised weapon like this ones options for re-purposing is pretty limited at best,altho personally I would have considered trying to upgrade them in the a2a role first.
Frankly this whole thing to me has the appearance of an answer in search of a question written all over it and I`m not particularly impressed with the result to be perfectly honest,tho what would`ve impressed me would`ve been seeing the iranian reverse/re-engineered spike copy,now that would`ve been good or better yet confirmation that the soumar LACM was now officially in service with the iri armed forces[sigh!].

 

[sanel1412]

The agm-122s are in fact anti-radiation[anti-radar] weapons and these werent converted from the regular ir homing sidewinders but from the sarh [radar guided] sidewinder variant.
The agm-87 was however converted from ir homing sidewinders but was used primarily against soft skinned vehicles and then only for a very short period probably because there were simply much better purpose designed A2G/ATGM weapons available.
I`m not arguing that you cant use these a2a missiles in another role as an ad hoc ground attack munition of sorts,but the simple fact is that they were designed to do a very,very different job entirely so their suitability in this role,especially as an A2A/ATGM is pretty questionable,altho I suppose that if you have large stocks of these weapons laying around and need to find some sort of a use for them that could be one possible option,but I think that with a specialised weapon like this ones options for re-purposing is pretty limited at best,altho personally I would have considered trying to upgrade them in the a2a role first.
Frankly this whole thing to me has the appearance of an answer in search of a question written all over it and I`m not particularly impressed with the result to be perfectly honest,tho what would`ve impressed me would`ve been seeing the iranian reverse/re-engineered spike copy,now that would`ve been good or better yet confirmation that the soumar LACM was now officially in service with the iri armed forces[sigh!].

This is very smart solutions to give modern Atgm 2x more fire range,basicly front part of the missile is ATGM warhead + guidence.If you look front part of the missile you can see clearly Where ATGM is attached,modern ATGM's are very limited in range when fire crew fire it from ground...5km max range is in practice 1-2km effective range,from air it is much longer since they have much better insight(that is why even ground forces always is seeing to set ATGM on higher ground if possible)and also missile Will hit target from much better angle and it has better chance to penetrate.This missile doesn't use same warhead as aim-9 and it is not in my opinion adhoc solutions...simple becauase we can clearly see that Atgm warhead is attached to sidewinder body and in practice missle should have same or even better impact on target considering speed and better angle.So you May ask why would IRGC do this instead to use already available ATGM's in A2G role..In my opinion it is probably range and speed,that speed we can see in specifications is almost double of Atgm like TOW and it will increase penetration perfomance and effective range.I suppose integration ability is also one factor,IRGC Aero-Space force include CAS/Attack aircrafts and some number of tactical bombers ,this missile could easy be integrate at any aircraft in their inventory ,air lunched ATGM's are good for helicopters or UCAV but you can't put any of them on fast aircrafts in existing containers or naked and also it would require integration of some components.that is why I said it smart solution,simple because it would allow cheap and effective missle that can be used with existing IRGC-AF jets

 

[skyshadow]

 

[eagle2007]

ALCON,

Those images of jet engines are quite interesting..

It took a fair amount of searching but the top images (showing three engines) are JT8D-200 series turbofan engines. Iran's sizable civilian fleet of MD-80 series airliners use these engines.

The second image appears to be a Rolls Royce Tay turbofan engine. This type of engine is used by the Fokker family of smaller jet airliners in Iranian civilian aviation companies.

 

[N_Al40]

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Absolutely adore the new camo. on those helicopters! Are they Iranian reverse-engineered or are they the original US ones but overhauled?

Also, where can the auto Muharram heavy machine gun be employed? Seems a bit big for efficient application.

 

[AmirPatriot]

ALCON,

Those images of jet engines are quite interesting..

It took a fair amount of searching but the top images (showing three engines) are JT8D-200 series turbofan engines. Iran's sizable civilian fleet of MD-80 series airliners use these engines.

The second image appears to be a Rolls Royce Tay turbofan engine. This type of engine is used by the Fokker family of smaller jet airliners in Iranian civilian aviation companies.

Good to see you back eagle, you hadn't been active for a little while.

This may seem like a slightly dumb question, but why are they interesting? I thought it was established that Iran could overhaul these engines.

 

[skyshadow]

Absolutely adore the new camo. on those helicopters! Are they Iranian reverse-engineered or are they the original US ones but overhauled?

Also, where can the auto Muharram heavy machine gun be employed? Seems a bit big for efficient application.

Night vision cameras are made by Iran. Iran has built many cameras in recent years. The heavy Muharram machine gun is very large and its much slower than the smaller machine guns, but it also has a higher caliber. I do not think it would be possible to install a large machine gun like Moharram on helicopters. The machine gun that was shown in the picture is Nasir, which is much better than the Muharram machine gun for air support.

nasir machine gun

akhgar machine gun

 

[Fafnir]

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Good to see these old bell helos getting a flir upgrade,hopefully the rest of the entire military helo fleet is going to be equipped and not just these three examples.Iran desperately needs to start spending some very serious cash on modernising,upgrading and expanding its helo fleet as well as acquiring some brand new modern machines to start replacing the elderly pahlavi era us supplied stuff which is only getting longer in the tooth with each year that passes.

 

[skyshadow]

 

[Fafnir]

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LOL!,its this frankenstein monster missile again.
We`ve seen the bottom one a few times before mounted on a drone and frankly it doesnt look very convincing at all,not to mention the fact that it is clearly missing its actual control surfaces.The top one however does look a lot more interesting and could even perhaps possibly be a real prototype or test object of some sort,it looks to be an crotale/hq7 missile fitted with a new electro-optical front end possibly off a sadid glide bomb,its probably got a range of around 13km judging by the crotale/hq7 specs,but is it fire and forget or wireless guided with a datalink link like the drone glide bombs,who knows?.This could potentially be used as an extremely long range anti-tank/helo weapon,thats provided of course that the firing platform can detect targets out to the maximum range.

 

[skyshadow]

LOL!,its this frankenstein monster missile again.
We`ve seen the bottom one a few times before mounted on a drone and frankly it doesnt look very convincing at all,not to mention the fact that it is clearly missing its actual control surfaces.The top one however does look a lot more interesting and could even perhaps possibly be a real prototype or test object of some sort,it looks to be an crotale/hq7 missile fitted with a new electro-optical front end possibly off a sadid glide bomb,its probably got a range of around 13km judging by the crotale/hq7 specs,but is it fire and forget or wireless guided with a datalink link like the drone glide bombs,who knows?.This could potentially be used as an extremely long range anti-tank/helo weapon,thats provided of course that the firing platform can detect targets out to the maximum range.

Iranian AH-1J equipped with Shafagh missile
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گونه جدید موشک شفق
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جدیدترین تصویر از نصب موشک شفق بر روی بالگرد کبرای ارتقاء یافته هوانیروز ارتش با استتار جدید منتشر شده است.

نکته قابل توجه اینکه، موشک شفق نصب شده بر روی این بالگرد نسبت به موشک شفقی که چند سال پیش رونمایی شد، تفاوت کرده و همانند ریشه اصلی خودش یعنی موشک شهاب ثاقب دارای بالک جلویی هست. موشک شفق درواقع محصول تغییر کاربری در موشک زمین به هوای "شهاب ثاقب" میباشد که با افزودن جستجوگر حرارتی به آن، تولید شده است.

دقیقا مشخص نیست که پروژه ساخت بدون بالک جلویی شفق، کنسل شده است یا هر دو گونه با هم در جریان هستند.

خود موشک شهاب ثاقب هم در سالهای اخیر گونه بدون بالکش توسعه داده شده است.

مشخصات گونه قبلی موشک شفق بدین شرح اعلام شده بود: برد 8-10 کیلومتر، سرعت 2-2.7 ماخ و وزن 60 کیلوگرم، میزان نفوذ در زره تا 1500 میلیمتر و دقت 30 سانتیمتر در 10 کیلومتر

مشخصات گونه جدید این موشک تاکنون اعلام نشده است. حتی ممکن است که این مدل جدید بجای نقش هوا به زمین، نقش هوا به هوا هم داشته باشد که البته صرفا یک احتمال است. همچنین سیکر موشک به نظر از نوع اپتیکی هست.

در کل میتوان گفت که موشک_ضدزره_شفق مشخصات بهتری نسبت به موشک_ضدزره_آذرخش دارد که روز گذشته رونمایی شد و همین موضوع این فرضیه را تقویت میکند که موشک آذرخش، درواقع بازسازی و تغییر کاربری سایدوایندرهای از رده خارج بوده است نه طراحی و ساخت موشک جدید.