Iranian Chill Thread

[OldTwilight]

با رای مثبت دادن به قطعنامه مجمع عمومی؟ یه چیزی بگو که شدنی باشه. رای مثبت ما مثلاً چه تاثیری می‌تونه داشته باشه؟
روسیه خیلی زرنگ‌تر و کثیف‌تر از این صحبت‌ها هست​

،روسیه اگر حمایت های بین المللی داشته باشه ، بیشتر ریسک می کنه و احتمال داره با اروپایی ها درگیر بشه . در کل ما از بی طرفی هیچ سودی نمی بریم ... درست مثل جنگ جهانی اول و دوم که بی طرفی ما بیشتر نشان بی خایه بودن و دیوث بودن ما بود تا نشان از درایت ما ...



یکی از اهداف جانبی روسیه که کسی بهش نمی پردازه ، کنترل خاورمیانه از طریق « غلات » هست

تقریبا تمامی کشورهای خاورمیانه بخش زیادی از غلات خودشون رو از روسیه و اوکراین تهیه می کردند .

حالا که روسیه ، کیف و سرزمین های اطرافش رو به خاکش ضمیمه می کنه ، یک مونوپولی سخت روی فروش گندم و سایر غلات به دست میاره که می تونه باهاش اکثر کشورهای خاورمیانه رو کنترل کنه

پاکستان هم همین وابستگی رو داره

برای همین عمران خان روز دوم جنگ رفت و یک میلیون تن گندم از روسیه خرید ...

ما هم متاسفانه بخش زیادی از گندم و غلات خودمون رو از روسیه و اوکراین سفارش می دادیم و تهیه می کنیم ...


این تایپیک رو من توی میلیتاری سال 92 ایجاد کردم ...

- اینم یکی از پست هام همون سال ها بود که گفتم « روسیه » توان تجزیه اوکراین رو داره
این تایپیک های قدیمی میلیتاری خیلی ارزش دارند ، هر چند که خیلی از کاربران قدیمی رو از فروم بیرون کردند ... تا یک مونولوگ داشته باشند

تØÙÛÙ Ù Ù¾ÛÚ¯ÛØ±Û ØªØÙÙات اÙکراÛÙ

ØÙÙ٠رÙسÛ٠ب٠اÙکراÛ٠جدا از اÛÙ Ú©Ù Ø®Ùد اÙکراÛÙÛ Ùا را ÙÙÛØ´Ùد دست ک٠گرÙت ÙاکÙØ´ ÙظاÙÛ ÙÙØ±Û ÙÙستا٠جÙÙÙØ±Û ÚÚ© رÙÙاÙÛ Ù Ø¨Ùغارستا٠را ب٠دÙبا٠خÙاÙد داشت ÙÙ ÙÙستاÙÛ Ùا کشتار کاتÛ٠را ÙراÙÙØ´ کرد٠اÙد ÙÙ ÚÚ©Û Ùا...

www.military.ir

این قضایا همون ادامه ی قضایای سال 92 هست :
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البته اگه این رو وقایع رو انقلاب در نظر بگیریم ، که انقلاب نیست ، نه با تعاریف کلاسیک و نه با تعاریف نسبتا جدید انقلاب .
این بیشتر شبیه یک جنگ داخلی سرد هست تا انقلاب ، مردم غرب علیه مردم شرق و جنوب شرقی اوکراین وارد عمل شدند .http://www.military.ir/forums/topic/27194-%D8%AA%D8%AD%D9%84%DB%8C%D9%84-%D9%88-%D9%BE%DB%8C%DA%AF%DB%8C%D8%B1%DB%8C-%D8%AA%D8%AD%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%A7%D9%88%DA%A9%D8%B1%D8%A7%DB%8C%D9%86/?do=findComment&comment=369086

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[QWECXZ]

یکی از اهداف جانبی روسیه که کسی بهش نمی پردازه ، کنترل خاورمیانه از طریق « غلات » هست

تقریبا تمامی کشورهای خاورمیانه بخش زیادی از غلات خودشون رو از روسیه و اوکراین تهیه می کردند .

حالا که روسیه ، کیف و سرزمین های اطرافش رو به خاکش ضمیمه می کنه ، یک مونوپولی سخت روی فروش گندم و سایر غلات به دست میاره که می تونه باهاش اکثر کشورهای خاورمیانه رو کنترل کنه

پاکستان هم همین وابستگی رو داره

برای همین عمران خان روز دوم جنگ رفت و یک میلیون تن گندم از روسیه خرید ...

ما هم متاسفانه بخش زیادی از گندم و غلات خودمون رو از روسیه و اوکراین سفارش می دادیم و تهیه می کنیم ...​

این در صورتی هست که روسیه کامل اوکراین رو اشغال کنه و اونجا بمونه و اتفاقاً بهش پرداخته هم شده
خودم احتمالاً اولین نفری بودم که تو همون تاپیک مخصوص جنگ اوکراین همین نکته رو گفتم

اما هنوز نمی‌فهمم چه ربطی به رای مثبت ما دادن داره​

 

[sha ah]

Western mainstream media has really lost all credibility during this war. What happened to being impartial and unbiased when reporting news ? Meanwhile the price of gasoline is surging and the price of household heating has quadrupled in the UK since the war started. This is just the beginning.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499253789299294208

In the west they're going mad with anti Russian hysteria. They're showing their true colors. Honestly though what do Russian athletes, Russian musicians, Russian entertainers have to do with this war ? Their self styled charade of tolerance and sensibility has all but evaporated and in its place lies nothing other than an arrogant, xenophobic and hateful demeanor.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499160168382275590

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499268716395118593

 

[OldTwilight]

این در صورتی هست که روسیه کامل اوکراین رو اشغال کنه و اونجا بمونه و اتفاقاً بهش پرداخته هم شده
خودم احتمالاً اولین نفری بودم که تو همون تاپیک مخصوص جنگ اوکراین همین نکته رو گفتم

اما هنوز نمی‌فهمم چه ربطی به رای مثبت ما دادن داره​

بحث اینه که « بی طرفی » نشانه ی ضعف هست ، ما عملا نمی تونیم علیه روسیه رای بدهیم ( وابستگی غلات و تحریم بودن از طرف غرب ) پس بهتر بود می رفتیم و کنارش می ایستادیم ...

اگر هم می خواستیم بر سر اصولمون می موندیم ، باید علیه روس ها رای می دادیم ...

 

[QWECXZ]

بحث اینه که « بی طرفی » نشانه ی ضعف هست ، ما عملا نمی تونیم علیه روسیه رای بدهیم ( وابستگی غلات و تحریم بودن از طرف غرب ) پس بهتر بود می رفتیم و کنارش می ایستادیم ...

اگر هم می خواستیم بر سر اصولمون می موندیم ، باید علیه روس ها رای می دادیم ...

ما وابستگی غلات به روسیه نداریم. بعد هم گزینه‌های دیگه‌ای هم هست مثل چین، هند، برزیل و خیلی جاهای دیگه. خود آمریکا یکی از بزرگترین صادر کنندگان غلات هست و ما هم که با آمریکا هنوز رابطه تجاری داریم و ازش غذا و دارو وارد می‌کنیم

باید قطعاً علیه روس‌ها رای می‌دادیم منتهی مشکل اینجا هست که زلنسکی هم یک یهودی صهیونیست ضد ایران هست. باز با این وجود اگه به من بود به خاطر کاری که تو شورای امنیت با ما هر دفعه انجام می‌دن علیهشون رای می‌دادم​

 

[TheImmortal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499359471684001794

I hope Iran takes care of its Artesh better than this

 

[aryobarzan]

@QWECXZ @OldTwilight... FYI

Iran wheat imports data: Iranian wheat consumption is close to 16000 million tons annual.

Iran became self sufficient in Wheat production for the years 2017, 2018... then Iranian wheat encountered a pest called Rohanni... This pest refused to pay market prices for the Iranian wheat (prefered importing!!! and blamed the drought!)and Iranian farmers stopped producing.. we see the result of that in 2020 and 2021
I think Iran imported 6000 or 7000 million ton last year at a cost $10 billion dollars.!!!
....The good news is that the country can and will be self sufficient just encourage the poor farmers a bit.

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Market Year	Imports	Unit of Measure	Growth Rate
1960	503	(1000 MT)	NA
1961	192	(1000 MT)	-61.83%
1962	330	(1000 MT)	71.88%
1963	138	(1000 MT)	-58.18%
1964	622	(1000 MT)	350.72%
1965	143	(1000 MT)	-77.01%
1966	220	(1000 MT)	53.85%
1967	51	(1000 MT)	-76.82%
1968	1	(1000 MT)	-98.04%
1969	1	(1000 MT)	0.00%
1970	458	(1000 MT)	45,700.00%
1971	1000	(1000 MT)	118.34%
1972	736	(1000 MT)	-26.40%
1973	785	(1000 MT)	6.66%
1974	1450	(1000 MT)	84.71%
1975	1440	(1000 MT)	-0.69%
1976	850	(1000 MT)	-40.97%
1977	1500	(1000 MT)	76.47%
1978	710	(1000 MT)	-52.67%
1979	1187	(1000 MT)	67.18%
1980	1896	(1000 MT)	59.73%
1981	1377	(1000 MT)	-27.37%
1982	1405	(1000 MT)	2.03%
1983	3700	(1000 MT)	163.35%
1984	3200	(1000 MT)	-13.51%
1985	2200	(1000 MT)	-31.25%
1986	2500	(1000 MT)	13.64%
1987	4000	(1000 MT)	60.00%
1988	3200	(1000 MT)	-20.00%
1989	5200	(1000 MT)	62.50%
1990	4000	(1000 MT)	-23.08%
1991	2450	(1000 MT)	-38.75%
1992	3002	(1000 MT)	22.53%
1993	3504	(1000 MT)	16.72%
1994	3647	(1000 MT)	4.08%
1995	2924	(1000 MT)	-19.82%
1996	5326	(1000 MT)	82.15%
1997	5174	(1000 MT)	-2.85%
1998	1907	(1000 MT)	-63.14%
1999	4912	(1000 MT)	157.58%
2000	5768	(1000 MT)	17.43%
2001	5296	(1000 MT)	-8.18%
2002	1991	(1000 MT)	-62.41%
2003	766	(1000 MT)	-61.53%
2004	200	(1000 MT)	-73.89%
2005	307	(1000 MT)	53.50%
2006	1000	(1000 MT)	225.73%
2007	200	(1000 MT)	-80.00%
2008	6800	(1000 MT)	3,300.00%
2009	4500	(1000 MT)	-33.82%
2010	600	(1000 MT)	-86.67%
2011	800	(1000 MT)	33.33%
2012	6630	(1000 MT)	728.75%
2013	4850	(1000 MT)	-26.85%
2014	6315	(1000 MT)	30.21%
2015	3500	(1000 MT)	-44.58%
2016	1200	(1000 MT)	-65.71%
2017	200	(1000 MT)	-83.33%
2018	180	(1000 MT)	-10.00%
2019	2000	(1000 MT)	1,011.11%
2020	2200	(1000 MT)	10.00%
2021	7000	(1000 MT)	218.18%

Source: United States Department of Agriculture

lake..North western Iran

 

[OldTwilight]

@QWECXZ @OldTwilight... FYI

Iran wheat imports data: Iranian wheat consumption is close to 16000 million tons annual.

Iran became self sufficient in Wheat production for the years 2017, 2018... then Iranian wheat encountered a pest called Rohanni... This pest refused to pay market prices for the Iranian wheat (prefered importing!!! and blamed the drought!)and Iranian farmers stopped producing.. we see the result of that in 2020 and 2021
I think Iran imported 6000 or 7000 million ton last year at a cost $10 billion dollars.!!!
....The good news is that the country can and will be self sufficient just encourage the poor farmers a bit.

​

Market Year	Imports	Unit of Measure	Growth Rate
1960	503	(1000 MT)	NA
1961	192	(1000 MT)	-61.83%
1962	330	(1000 MT)	71.88%
1963	138	(1000 MT)	-58.18%
1964	622	(1000 MT)	350.72%
1965	143	(1000 MT)	-77.01%
1966	220	(1000 MT)	53.85%
1967	51	(1000 MT)	-76.82%
1968	1	(1000 MT)	-98.04%
1969	1	(1000 MT)	0.00%
1970	458	(1000 MT)	45,700.00%
1971	1000	(1000 MT)	118.34%
1972	736	(1000 MT)	-26.40%
1973	785	(1000 MT)	6.66%
1974	1450	(1000 MT)	84.71%
1975	1440	(1000 MT)	-0.69%
1976	850	(1000 MT)	-40.97%
1977	1500	(1000 MT)	76.47%
1978	710	(1000 MT)	-52.67%
1979	1187	(1000 MT)	67.18%
1980	1896	(1000 MT)	59.73%
1981	1377	(1000 MT)	-27.37%
1982	1405	(1000 MT)	2.03%
1983	3700	(1000 MT)	163.35%
1984	3200	(1000 MT)	-13.51%
1985	2200	(1000 MT)	-31.25%
1986	2500	(1000 MT)	13.64%
1987	4000	(1000 MT)	60.00%
1988	3200	(1000 MT)	-20.00%
1989	5200	(1000 MT)	62.50%
1990	4000	(1000 MT)	-23.08%
1991	2450	(1000 MT)	-38.75%
1992	3002	(1000 MT)	22.53%
1993	3504	(1000 MT)	16.72%
1994	3647	(1000 MT)	4.08%
1995	2924	(1000 MT)	-19.82%
1996	5326	(1000 MT)	82.15%
1997	5174	(1000 MT)	-2.85%
1998	1907	(1000 MT)	-63.14%
1999	4912	(1000 MT)	157.58%
2000	5768	(1000 MT)	17.43%
2001	5296	(1000 MT)	-8.18%
2002	1991	(1000 MT)	-62.41%
2003	766	(1000 MT)	-61.53%
2004	200	(1000 MT)	-73.89%
2005	307	(1000 MT)	53.50%
2006	1000	(1000 MT)	225.73%
2007	200	(1000 MT)	-80.00%
2008	6800	(1000 MT)	3,300.00%
2009	4500	(1000 MT)	-33.82%
2010	600	(1000 MT)	-86.67%
2011	800	(1000 MT)	33.33%
2012	6630	(1000 MT)	728.75%
2013	4850	(1000 MT)	-26.85%
2014	6315	(1000 MT)	30.21%
2015	3500	(1000 MT)	-44.58%
2016	1200	(1000 MT)	-65.71%
2017	200	(1000 MT)	-83.33%
2018	180	(1000 MT)	-10.00%
2019	2000	(1000 MT)	1,011.11%
2020	2200	(1000 MT)	10.00%
2021	7000	(1000 MT)	218.18%

Source: United States Department of Agriculture

I don't like Rouhani but draught and shortage of water is one of key factor in past 3 years ...

So we had to import so much wheats ( we are not food secure )

its sad that I can't find this kind of info in Iran official site but USA has these ...

 

[aryobarzan]

I don't like Rouhani but draught and shortage of water is one of key factor in past 3 years ...

So we had to import so much wheats ( mind point that we are nod food secure )

its sad that I can't find this kind of info in Iran official site but USA has these ...

The import of 6000 ton was all over Iranian papers..

Iran’s wheat imports at 6.2 mln mt in 10 months to January

Iran says wheat imports reached over 6.2 million metric tons in the 10 months to late January.

www.presstv.ir

 

[OldTwilight]

The import of 6000 ton was all over Iranian papers..

Iran’s wheat imports at 6.2 mln mt in 10 months to January

Iran says wheat imports reached over 6.2 million metric tons in the 10 months to late January.

www.presstv.ir

من به خاطر مخالفت با روحانی و نئولیبرال ها خیلی فحش شنیدم ، ولی باید حقیقت رو گفت

آمار واردات رو باید کنار آمار تولید و آمار بارش و آمار مصرف سالانه گذاشت تا دید درستی داشت

دولت روحانی یکی از کارهای خوبش همین واردات گندم و غلات بود .

 

[TheImmortal]

@QWECXZ @OldTwilight... FYI

Iran wheat imports data: Iranian wheat consumption is close to 16000 million tons annual.

Iran became self sufficient in Wheat production for the years 2017, 2018... then Iranian wheat encountered a pest called Rohanni... This pest refused to pay market prices for the Iranian wheat (prefered importing!!! and blamed the drought!)and Iranian farmers stopped producing.. we see the result of that in 2020 and 2021
I think Iran imported 6000 or 7000 million ton last year at a cost $10 billion dollars.!!!
....The good news is that the country can and will be self sufficient just encourage the poor farmers a bit.

​

Market Year	Imports	Unit of Measure	Growth Rate
1960	503	(1000 MT)	NA
1961	192	(1000 MT)	-61.83%
1962	330	(1000 MT)	71.88%
1963	138	(1000 MT)	-58.18%
1964	622	(1000 MT)	350.72%
1965	143	(1000 MT)	-77.01%
1966	220	(1000 MT)	53.85%
1967	51	(1000 MT)	-76.82%
1968	1	(1000 MT)	-98.04%
1969	1	(1000 MT)	0.00%
1970	458	(1000 MT)	45,700.00%
1971	1000	(1000 MT)	118.34%
1972	736	(1000 MT)	-26.40%
1973	785	(1000 MT)	6.66%
1974	1450	(1000 MT)	84.71%
1975	1440	(1000 MT)	-0.69%
1976	850	(1000 MT)	-40.97%
1977	1500	(1000 MT)	76.47%
1978	710	(1000 MT)	-52.67%
1979	1187	(1000 MT)	67.18%
1980	1896	(1000 MT)	59.73%
1981	1377	(1000 MT)	-27.37%
1982	1405	(1000 MT)	2.03%
1983	3700	(1000 MT)	163.35%
1984	3200	(1000 MT)	-13.51%
1985	2200	(1000 MT)	-31.25%
1986	2500	(1000 MT)	13.64%
1987	4000	(1000 MT)	60.00%
1988	3200	(1000 MT)	-20.00%
1989	5200	(1000 MT)	62.50%
1990	4000	(1000 MT)	-23.08%
1991	2450	(1000 MT)	-38.75%
1992	3002	(1000 MT)	22.53%
1993	3504	(1000 MT)	16.72%
1994	3647	(1000 MT)	4.08%
1995	2924	(1000 MT)	-19.82%
1996	5326	(1000 MT)	82.15%
1997	5174	(1000 MT)	-2.85%
1998	1907	(1000 MT)	-63.14%
1999	4912	(1000 MT)	157.58%
2000	5768	(1000 MT)	17.43%
2001	5296	(1000 MT)	-8.18%
2002	1991	(1000 MT)	-62.41%
2003	766	(1000 MT)	-61.53%
2004	200	(1000 MT)	-73.89%
2005	307	(1000 MT)	53.50%
2006	1000	(1000 MT)	225.73%
2007	200	(1000 MT)	-80.00%
2008	6800	(1000 MT)	3,300.00%
2009	4500	(1000 MT)	-33.82%
2010	600	(1000 MT)	-86.67%
2011	800	(1000 MT)	33.33%
2012	6630	(1000 MT)	728.75%
2013	4850	(1000 MT)	-26.85%
2014	6315	(1000 MT)	30.21%
2015	3500	(1000 MT)	-44.58%
2016	1200	(1000 MT)	-65.71%
2017	200	(1000 MT)	-83.33%
2018	180	(1000 MT)	-10.00%
2019	2000	(1000 MT)	1,011.11%
2020	2200	(1000 MT)	10.00%
2021	7000	(1000 MT)	218.18%

Source: United States Department of Agriculture


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lake..North western Iran

Poor farmers that destroyed Iran’s water with terrible farming practices and unsustainable farming?

When someone treats water as if it is unlimited free resource, this is what happens.

 

[TheImmortal]

Jordan's Autocracy Is Preparing For War On All Fronts - Islamic World News

Judging by the latest stories related to the Kingdom of Jordan, it can be stated that the autocracy of Abdullah II has faced serious challenges, both in the domestic arena and in foreign policy.

english.iswnews.com

Jordan is likely to fall to Islamists, looks a bit like 1975-1979 Iran.

Iran is trying to make Jordan an ally to resistance and other countries (Muslim Brotherhood backers) have their own designs.

I would not be surprised if the Zionists accelerate their pan-Israel plans.

 

[sha ah]

Most of Iran's land is arid or mountainous and not really suitable for long term farming. One school of thought advocates that each country should focus exclusively on their strengths and simply trade with other nations for what they need. i mean Saudi Arabia produces 6 million barrels a day while Iran only produces something like 2.7 daily. If Iran simply doubled its crude output, the country would swimming in a healthy surplus and buying wheat or rice from say India wouldn't be an issue.

Not to say that Iran shouldn't focus on other fields but realistically Iran is an energy superpower and has huge mining potential as well. Definitely money should be spent on educating farmers and investing in more advanced and sustainable farming methods. Maybe more water regulation is the answer in regards to farming ?

Poor farmers that destroyed Iran’s water with terrible farming practices and unsustainable farming?

When someone treats water as if it is unlimited free resource, this is what happens.

Isn't Jordan a hardcore western ally ? Perhaps his people are sick and tired of the monarchy's corruption ? Ordinary Jordanians are struggling while the king leads an opulent lifestyle. He was featured in the Pandora report after all along with Aliyev. At the same time, being allied with the west is like a double edged sword, you never know when they will backstab you. Although the king of Jordan seems like a pretty loyal stooge. It would be a risk to get rid of him wouldn't it ?

Jordan's Autocracy Is Preparing For War On All Fronts - Islamic World News

Judging by the latest stories related to the Kingdom of Jordan, it can be stated that the autocracy of Abdullah II has faced serious challenges, both in the domestic arena and in foreign policy.

english.iswnews.com

Jordan is likely to fall to Islamists, looks a bit like 1975-1979 Iran.

Iran is trying to make Jordan an ally to resistance and other countries (Muslim Brotherhood backers) have their own designs.

I would not be surprised if the Zionists accelerate their pan-Israel plans.

 

[sha ah]

 

[sha ah]

Ukraine revealed secret battle plans left behind by Russian troops and claimed they showed Russia planned a 15-day war

The seized documents were posted on Facebook by Ukraine's Ministry of Defense and showed the war plans of Russian forces.

www.businessinsider.com

Ukraine revealed secret battle plans left behind by Russian troops and claimed they showed Russia planned a 15-day war​