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Iran tells Middle East militias: prepare for proxy war

Previously our national retard Maliki listened to Iran and that resulted in ISIS taking half the country because the army wasn't trained and ready to defend any conventional attack, he sent the US out way before the army was ready to be independent as he acted on behalf of Iranian interests. Now in the end, do me a favor and do not resort to emotional blackmail saying how Iran helped Iraq, we went over that.

the sheer ignorance of some people. the Danish Iraqi patriot. Demeaning the armed soldiers on the field
you have 0 knowledge regarding this issue.

when you were in refugee camps in Denmark getting food thrown at you like an animal, there were brave patriots including the Iraqi Rambo doing the killing

even the most famous Iraqi soldier is pro-Iran

 
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the sheer ignorance of some people. the Danish Iraqi patriot. Demeaning the armed soldiers on the field
you have 0 knowledge regarding this issue.

when you were in refugee camps in Denmark getting food thrown at you like an animal, there were brave patriots including the Iraqi Rambo doing the killing

even the most famous Iraqi soldier is pro-Iran


I was born in Europe

Also elevate that IQ and write something better, **** whichever school you ever went to
 
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I was born in Europe

Also elevate that IQ and write something better, **** whichever school you ever went to

even worse... a supposed euro Iraqi with little geopolitical knowledge of the situation. and an affinity towards saddam.

your the type of Iraqi "patriot" who disarmed and sold 1700~ Iraqi shia soldiers to daesh to get mass slaughtered like cattle on isis propaganda videos.

IRGC suffered 100s of casualties to help patriot Iraqis defeat your kind..
 
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even worse... a supposed euro Iraqi with little geopolitical knowledge of the situation. and an affinity towards saddam.

your the type of Iraqi "patriot" who disarmed and sold 1700~ Iraqi shia soldiers to daesh to get mass slaughtered like cattle on isis propaganda videos.

IRGC suffered 100s of casualties to help patriot Iraqis defeat your kind..
I don't care about Saddam the faggot, neither Khomeini the other bitch of his time.

Keep that bs to yourself.
 
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These groups should follow Baghdad's gov command, Soleimani is instructing groups to act on behalf of another chain of command. That by itself is a hostile action, promoting an armed group to follow orders against gov policy.

But those groups aren't going to listen to a bunch of corrupted and spineless officials in Baghdad. You can cry all you want, but the reality is that Iran has loyal allies under its control in Iraq that will act upon Tehran's orders once shit has hit the fan.

Nothing against my Iraqi bros, but they would fair off worse than the Taliban. Those militias that cooperate with Iran are not battle hardened(against the US or any state military) and I don't believe they are well disciplined/trained. Their role is limited to threatening Iraqi state and assuring Iranian interests in Iraq.

You can't be serious. They are extremely battle-hardened, have more than a decade of experience of fighting both the single most potent military force in the world (the United States) as well as all kinds of non-state militant groups in Syria and Iraq such as ISIS and others. In addition, they have recently been equipped with sophisticated missiles that are able to hit both Israel and the Gulf from within Iraqi territory.
 
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But those groups aren't going to listen to a bunch of corrupted and spineless officials in Baghdad. You can cry all you want, but the reality is that Iran has loyal allies under its control in Iraq that will act upon Tehran's orders once shit has hit the fan. You can count on that.

Maybe, let's see.

I doubt it, it's not doable on the ground. PMU is not going to attack the ISF.
 
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Iran tells Middle East militias: prepare for proxy war

Thu 16 May 2019 19.17 BSTLast modified on Thu 16 May 2019 19.31 BS

Qassem Suleimani (centre), the leader of Iran’s powerful Quds force. Photograph: AP
Iran’s most prominent military leader has recently met Iraqi militias in Baghdad and told them to “prepare for proxy war”, the Guardian has learned.

Two senior intelligence sources said that Qassem Suleimani, leader of Iran’s powerful Quds force, summoned the militias under Tehran’s influence three weeks ago, amid a heightened state of tension in the region. The move to mobilise Iran’s regional allies is understood to have triggered fears in the US that Washington’s interests in the Middle East are facing a pressing threat. The UK raised its threat levels for British troops in Iraq on Thursday.

While Suleimani has met regularly with leaders of Iraq’s myriad Shia groups over the past five years, the nature and tone of this gathering was different. “It wasn’t quite a call to arms, but it wasn’t far off,” one source said.

The meeting has led to a frenzy of diplomatic activity between US, British and Iraqi officials who are trying to banish the spectre of clashes between Tehran and Washington and who now fear that Iraq could become an arena for conflict.

The gathering partly informed a US decision to evacuate non-essential diplomatic staff from the US embassy in Baghdad and Erbil and to raise the threat status at US bases in Iraq. It also coincided with a perceived separate risk to US interests and those of its allies in the Persian Gulf and led to a heightened threat that more than a decade of proxy conflicts may spill over into a direct clash between Washington and Tehran.

Leaders of all the militia groups that fall under the umbrella of Iraq’s Popular Mobilisation Units (PMUs) were in attendance at the meeting called by Suleimani, the intelligence sources claimed. One senior figure who learned about the meeting had since met with western officials to express concerns.

As the head of the elite Quds force, Suleimani plays a significant role in the militias’ strategic directions and major operations. Over the past 15 years, he has been Iran’s most influential powerbroker in Iraq and Syria, leading Tehran’s efforts to consolidate its presence in both countries and trying to reshape the region in its favour.

The US has become increasingly vocal about the activities of Iranian proxies in the Middle East. Donald Trump this month named Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a western-designated terrorist group financed by Iran and Lebanon’s Hezbollah, as partly responsible for a barrage of rockets fired from Gaza into Israel.

On Sunday, four ships – two of them Saudi oil tankers – were reportedly sabotaged off the UAE coast. The following day, drones launched by Iranian-allied rebels in Yemen attacked two Saudi pipelines. Saudi state media on Thursday called for “surgical strikes” against Iranian targets in response and its senior officials have told Washington that they expect it to act in its interests.

Adding to concerns is a belief that a convoy of Iranian-supplied missiles was last week successfully transported across Iraq’s Anbar province into Syria, where it was transferred safely to Damascus, regional diplomats told the Guardian. The transfer managed to evade US and Israeli intelligence, despite the latter’s interdiction of dozens of alleged missile deliveries in the past three years that have been flown into various Syrian airbases via an airbridge.

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Fears of an Iranian-run land corridor emerging from the fight against the Islamic State, in which Shia militia groups played a prominent role, have been central to concerns that postwar Iraq and Syria could be subverted by regional manoeuvrings.


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The USS Abraham Lincoln, recently dispatched to the Gulf. Photograph: ONOSPHG/AP
That Iran could emerge emboldened from the Isis fight has dominated recent discussions among Donald Trump’s uber-hawks, the national security adviser, John Bolton, and the secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, both of whom are central to an escalating US sanctions programme and Washington’s abandonment of an international nuclear deal signed by Tehran and the former US president Barack Obama.

The Trump administration has remained wary of the Iraqi militias. Although they jointly led the fight against Isis, such groups were integrated into the Iraqi state structure, and have drawn increasing comparisons with Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps. While they include some Sunni, Christian and Yazidi units, they are dominated by Shia groups, the most powerful of whom enjoy the direct patronage of Iran.

The British foreign secretary, Jeremy Hunt, appeared to align the UK on Thursday with US claims that Tehran’s threat posture had changed. “We share the same assessment of the heightened threat posed by Iran,” he said on Twitter. “As always we work closely with the USA.”

Earlier this week, a British general challenged the Trump administration’s claims that an imminent threat had emerged from Iran, creating a rare public schism between the two countries whose alliance has at times been tested by the erratic nature of Trump’s regional policy.

The UK, though, is understood to have been central to the recent concerns being raised, and efforts to de-escalate a crisis in which the US has imposed a “maximum pressure” strategy on Iran and Iranian officials have vowed to defend their interests, in the face of hardline sanctions and an oil blockade that is biting deep into Tehran’s coffers.

Tehran’s ambassador to the United Nations, Majid Takht-e Ravanchi, told US broadcaster NPR that Iran was not interested in escalating regional tensions but had the “right to defend ourselves.”

The US has ordered a naval battle group and a squadron of B-52 bombers to the region, in response to the perceived increased threat. In Yemen, meanwhile, where a Saudi-led war against Iranian-allied Houthi forces is into its fourth year, early-morning airstrikes killed six people, including four children, a health ministry official said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/16/iran-tells-middle-east-militias-prepare-for-proxy-war
The guardian....well western media so what did u expect?
 
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Maybe, let's see.

I doubt it, it's not doable on the ground. PMU is not going to attack the ISF.

They will if they are attacked, and it won't be the first time that state-operated forces are getting confronted by non-state militant groups in Iraq. To suggest that ISF are going to attack pro-Iranian groups if a battle erupt between the latter and the US is outright laughable. Baghdad lacks the competence, moral endurance and authority.

We are talking about highly ideological forces that cherish a deep religious and political aversion of western nations, and are bound by genuine allegiances to Shia Iran. To suggest that the opinion of a bunch of bureaucrats and corrupted officials in Baghdad is going to reign them in is naive.
 
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They will if they are attacked, and it won't be the first time that state-operated forces are getting confronted by non-state militant groups in Iraq. To suggest that ISF are going to attack pro-Iranian groups if a battle erupt between the latter and the US is outright laughable. Baghdad lacks the competence, moral endurance and authority.

We are talking about highly ideological forces that cherish a deep religious and political aversion of western nations. To suggest that the opinion of a bunch of bureaucrats and corrupted officials in Baghdad is going to reign them in is naive.

You don't get it, the US forces are not in the streets they're in closed confined bases. These bases are not US bases, they're mostly manned by the ISF especially the entrances.

It's not a US base with just Americans in there, the battle would always involve the ISF in one way or another. Thus this is not about bureaucrats but forces on the ground. Mainly Al-Asad, Qayarrah and Taji bases.
 
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What's an Islamist?
Islamism is a concept whose meaning has been debated in both public and academic contexts. The term can refer to diverse forms of social and political activism advocating that public and political life should be guided by Islamic principles or more specifically to movements which call for full implementation of sharia. It is commonly used interchangeably with the terms political Islam.
And no, I'm not a diehard secularist either.
 
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You don't get it, the US forces are not in the streets they're in closed confined bases. These bases are not US bases, they're mostly manned by the ISF especially the entrances.

It's not a US base with just Americans in there, the battle would always involve the ISF in one way or another. Thus this is not about bureaucrats but forces on the ground. Mainly Al-Asad, Qayarrah and Taji bases.

That is exactly why Iran has equipped these militias with accurate missiles, rockets and artillery.
 
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Fateh-110, Zolfaghar and Zelzal.

If some PMU have these they must be somewhere in bases kept secret from public view because there's no hard evidence of them having those. Haven't been used against IS either
 
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