Iran successfully produces a new generation of the Tomcat F-14

[1ndy]

Your comment is out of place and your ignorance is blatant.
You are new to PDF and you should know that worst Indians than you have gotten their lessons in This Forum.
Next time before opening your dirty toilet like mouth, have some good information about Iran's capacities, and what the US is saying about it now, not yesterday.
My advice for you is to take a tour of the subject on PDF itself.

truth hurt

^^
PS: Iran is just a land full of lunatics... They can't do anything. Its the oil importers who are saving iran from US attack...

 

[farhan_9909]

Pakistans existance is being challenged by thousands of terrorist groups that is present there and you come and talk about JF17 superiority ? well guess what, it didnt prevent your country from falling into terror hole and never recovering from it. Atleast in Iran airbases dont come under attack by armed terrorist groups... reform yourself my Pakistani friend

lol
so what should we do?
cancel the JFT production and starts protecting out airbases?

man we are in a state of war..?
these things are bound to happen


and Pak will recover as well

 

[gambit]

Iran needs to make a stealth version of the F14.

The only way to to do that is to close one's eyes and believe it so.

 

[datalibdaz]

Pakistans existance is being challenged by thousands of terrorist groups that is present there and you come and talk about JF17 superiority ? well guess what, it didnt prevent your country from falling into terror hole and never recovering from it. Atleast in Iran airbases dont come under attack by armed terrorist groups... reform yourself my Pakistani friend

Sorry brother but who would attack your airbases which are already empty or a few rusted AC standing there. These F14's no matter how advance you make them will be destroyed during the first hour of war. Dont get your hopes to high. And dont think that confronting eyes to eyes with US and Israel would make them not attack you (although i would support Iran in the War). Its now just a matter of time. Pakistan on the other hand is in war for last 11 years. Do your calculations any nation wouldn't withstand a month of war.So no need to brag in Pakistan armed forces capabilities.

 

[gambit]

Iran has that capacity and much more.

No, Iran does not. It is not possible to make a 'stealth' version of the F-14. The technical hurdles are so great that Iran might as well build a real 'stealth' fighter instead of trying to modify an existing airframe. All these years and the only thing Iran have done is add a vertical stab to the F-5.

 

[datalibdaz]

The only way to to do that is to close one's eyes and believe it so.

Or paint it black and drive around the runway at night.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Its vastly cheaper and faster to produce SAMs to hit modern fighters than to create modern fighter yourself.

SAM deployments are expensive.

 

[Harry_Thomason]

truth hurt

^^
PS: Iran is just a land full of lunatics... They can't do anything. Its the oil importers who are saving iran from US attack...

Could any MOD ban this racist? Thank you.

SAM deployments are expensive.

Mobiles arent. Stationary SAMs with silos are definitely not cheap, but still vastly cheaper than making new gen of fighters. Like F-35 program already is over 500 billion and will cost over a trillion in its lifetime, and these fighters arent even that good.

Mobile SAMs are pretty cheap, plus much harder to hunt down and kill. Thats why Iranians new advanced B-373 will be mobile as well.

 

[Serpentine]

truth hurt

^^
PS: Iran is just a land full of lunatics... They can't do anything. Its the oil importers who are saving iran from US attack...

Please don't make us say some words about place you call your country or home,it may hurt your feeling so bad,so respect yourself and simply close your mouth or try to talk like humans.

 

[The SC]

No, Iran does not. It is not possible to make a 'stealth' version of the F-14. The technical hurdles are so great that Iran might as well build a real 'stealth' fighter instead of trying to modify an existing airframe. All these years and the only thing Iran have done is add a vertical stab to the F-5.

They still can use composite materials and other secret techniques(in their hands apart from the US drone) to make it stealthy.
They already master most aspects of stealth technology for missiles, so a step further and they are there.
By the way the F-14 was much ahead of its time and is still a potent air superiority fighter, with new updated radars and avionics, it makes it more so now.

 

[gambit]

They still can use composite materials and other secret techniques(in their hands apart from the US drone) to make it stealthy.
They already master most aspects of stealth technology for missiles, so a step further and they are there.
By the way the F-14 was much ahead of its time and is still a potent air superiority fighter, with new updated radars and avionics, it makes it more so now.

1- Did you know that concrete and plywood are TECHNICALLY composites? Same for water?

2- No, Iran have not 'mastered' low radar observability designs.

3- The F-14 is obsolete by first world standards.

 

[Slayer786]

obsolete against who? Afghan drug lords and PKK guerrillas? The difference between banana republics and real countries are their foresight, independence and strategies. Iran will never be able to compete with the like of the US, nobody in the region can. With limited funds and a need for deterrents, that means airforce will have to take a back seat. However it doesn't mean it should be scrapped and it will have a great role to play against dangers like the PKK, Afghan drug lords and generally neighboring countries without a top notch military. Iran spends more money on its navy, missile forces (that includes anti ship missiles), nuclear sector etc... Who cares how many F16s you have when you don't have a strong vision and strategy to defend your nation against external and internal threats. If warfare was this easy, than Somalia would be a super power. We see today that Pakistan is at war with its own provinces and American drones are flying over the country. Having newer fighter jets will never take the place of a strong vision and strategy.

Mate lets not compare Pakistan to iran. You just stick with making enemies of the western world and threatening Israel out of exictence. Dont include us in your long list of enemies. LOL. Iran needs more friends now. So mate relax and deal with your old enemies, dont try to make new ones.
Pakistan does not want to fight Iran as it is a muslim brother country.

 

[FaujHistorian]

They still can use composite materials and other secret techniques(in their hands apart from the US drone) to make it stealthy.
They already master most aspects of stealth technology for missiles, so a step further and they are there.
By the way the F-14 was much ahead of its time and is still a potent air superiority fighter, with new updated radars and avionics, it makes it more so now.

off course, add all this to the power of prayer. And you have super-stealth aircraft that only angels would be able to see.

 

[The SC]

@gambit

1- Did you know that concrete and plywood are TECHNICALLY composites? Same for water?

2- No, Iran have not 'mastered' low radar observability designs.

3- The F-14 is obsolete by first world standards.

You know what I am talking about, when I say composite materials for stealth ? I do not think you know, apart from wood and (water).

Even the F-5 is a potent fighter today if you use or lose all your missiles from your top notch fighter plane you still can be downed very easily by it intercepting you and putting its primitive missiles in your ars. let alone the F-14 by any of "your world" standards.

 

[applesauce]

No, Iran does not. It is not possible to make a 'stealth' version of the F-14. The technical hurdles are so great that Iran might as well build a real 'stealth' fighter instead of trying to modify an existing airframe. All these years and the only thing Iran have done is add a vertical stab to the F-5.

without saying whether iran's technical and engineering capabilities could or could not, the fact that the f-15 can be modified to be semi steathy tells us that it is possible to modify the f-14 in a similar manner

thus "It is not possible to make a 'stealth' version of the F-14" is a flat out lie.