Iran successfully produces a new generation of the Tomcat F-14

[SHAHED]

These F-14 would be no match for the F-22, F-35, F-18, F-16 and F-15 and other fighters that Israel or USA would unleash if they were ever to go to war with Iran.

add RQ-170 the beast !!!

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

When the resources are limited (especially under sanctions), its wise to use them the most efficiently. Its vastly cheaper and faster to produce SAMs to hit modern fighters than to create modern fighter yourself.

Land based anti-air defense and air-force are supplementary to each other, and you can't replace one with the another, as a matter of fact you can depend on air-force alone in protecting your airspace but not vice versa. For example, Israeli and GCC Land based anti-air defense are mainly to intercept missiles not aircrafts as they rely on their airforces in doing that job.

 

[lonelyone]

Then again, a modern fighter is vastly more capable than a SAM to defend against air strikes. SAM's can be targeted with HARM's, and thus have to spend most time with radar off, which means they can't launch their missiles.

 

[Harry_Thomason]

Then again, a modern fighter is vastly more capable than a SAM to defend against air strikes. SAM's can be targeted with HARM's, and thus have to spend most time with radar off, which means they can't launch their missiles.

S-500 and latest S-400 can target any US fighter, and radars dont have to be off - they can be passive and non-detectable Also Iran is focusing on mobile radars, i.e. a big network of radars who can be on/off at any time and moved frequently. Not an easy target by any means.

 

[ihealugo]

First of all the west said that iran can't repair and replace the parts of the F-14 .
Iran Move: iran showed many overhauled tomcats .
Second move of the west : Iran can't build Tomcat radars so they won't be able to launch Phoenix and sparrow missiles .
But in escorting of two Su27 and a IL76 we say that two Tomcats were armed with 2 sidewinder 2 sparrow and 2 phoenix missiles.
Now do you think that iran can't just build a new version of Tomcats?!

So iran move: show the new version . HAHA

Look how Arabs and west want to show that iran can't upgrade it's fighters under sanctions.
this is hatred and being .........

 

[Hack-Hook]

Melika these are not real Tomcat , they are just some well made models
If I recall correctly the guy who made these models made amazing models of many more planes

by the way just look at the Iran flag on the tail of these plane and flag of Iran on the tail of the real one you'll see the difference

 

[Serpentine]

Tomcat is a real beauty.Still I think F-14 is the most beautiful jet-fighter in the world on par with F-22.Only with these Tomcats,Iran shot down 197 Iraqi jets according to a French magazine,however,number vary between 140 and 200.

 

[gambit]

S-500 and latest S-400 can target any US fighter, and radars dont have to be off - they can be passive and non-detectable

There goes that 'passive radar' nonsense again. Radar detection is a two parts process: Transmission and Reception. Without either, there is no 'radar detection'. This is real physics, not 'Iranian physics'.

Also Iran is focusing on mobile radars, i.e. a big network of radars who can be on/off at any time and moved frequently. Not an easy target by any means.

That is a double edged sword. The more you move the less time you have to perform any real work. The less you transmit, the more the gaps -- time and area -- for the enemy to slip through your defenses.

 

[SHAHED]

There goes that 'passive radar' nonsense again. Radar detection is a two parts process: Transmission and Reception. Without either, there is no 'radar detection'. This is real physics, not 'Iranian physics'.


That is a double edged sword. The more you move the less time you have to perform any real work. The less you transmit, the more the gaps -- time and area -- for the enemy to slip through your defenses.

RQ-170 = American physics

 

[gambit]

RQ-170 = American physics

Only one? And the fact that Iran is the cause of that loss is dubious at best. How do you know we stopped flying drones since then? Do any critical thinking?

 

[Kompromat]

obsolete against who? Afghan drug lords and PKK guerrillas? The difference between banana republics and real countries are their foresight, independence and strategies. Iran will never be able to compete with the like of the US, nobody in the region can. With limited funds and a need for deterrents, that means airforce will have to take a back seat. However it doesn't mean it should be scrapped and it will have a great role to play against dangers like the PKK, Afghan drug lords and generally neighboring countries without a top notch military. Iran spends more money on its navy, missile forces (that includes anti ship missiles), nuclear sector etc... Who cares how many F16s you have when you don't have a strong vision and strategy to defend your nation against external and internal threats. If warfare was this easy, than Somalia would be a super power. We see today that Pakistan is at war with its own provinces and American drones are flying over the country. Having newer fighter jets will never take the place of a strong vision and strategy.

Take a chill pill , drink some cold water and accept the fact that your Air Force won't last more than 24 hours in the sky against USAF. Its a fact you can't deny and a fact that has unwavering implications on your country's security.

I don't support Israel or the US and their plans to establish hegemony in our countries , rather my post was strictly technical with a possible air to air combat with USAF or IAF in mind. Don't drag Pakistan or Turkey or other irrelevant topic in.

 

[SHAHED]

Only one? And the fact that Iran is the cause of that loss is dubious at best. How do you know we stopped flying drones since then? Do any critical thinking?

other babies :

RQ-7 Shadow , Boeing ScanEagle , Elbit Hermes 450 , ...

Bedtime

Take a chill pill , drink some cold water and accept the fact that your Air Force won't last more than 24 hours in the sky against USAF. Its a fact you can't deny and a fact that has unwavering implications on your country's security.

I don't support Israel or the US and their plans to establish hegemony in our countries , rather my post was strictly technical with a possible air to air combat with USAF or IAF in mind. Don't drag Pakistan or Turkey or other irrelevant topic in.

wait a minute !!! Do you know what is going on in IRIAF ???

 

[gambit]

other babies :

RQ-7 Shadow , Boeing ScanEagle , Elbit Hermes 450 , ...

Bedtime

If you are not capable or willing to put together a coherent argument, leave the subject.

Here is what 'coherent' mean...

(of an argument, theory, or policy) Logical and consistent.

 

[Cheetah786]

Land based anti-air defense and air-force are supplementary to each other, and you can't replace one with the another, as a matter of fact you can depend on air-force alone in protecting your airspace but not vice versa. For example, Israeli and GCC Land based anti-air defense are mainly to intercept missiles not aircrafts as they rely on their airforces in doing that job.

Russians employed this policy through out cold war for its naval and air force successfully .

 

[SHAHED]

If you are not capable or willing to put together a coherent argument, leave the subject.

Here is what 'coherent' mean...

(of an argument, theory, or policy) Logical and consistent.

nice speech ! now tell me your idea about your crap UAVs