Iran Plans to Send Humans to Space by 2016

[jamahir]

you seem to have some disliking of ISRO I guess, ISRO is investing everything in MK 3 and you clearly have zero knowledge to even comment on GSLV MK 3.

i just think of them as incompetents, who in the 50+ years of existence have not launched a single human into space.

 

[The Last of us]

@kala @jamahir

Can our India friends not take this thread off topic. This is about Iranian space program.

 

[DJ Crudept]

wow ! all the best Iranian brothers

 

[The Last of us]

wow ! all the best Iranian brothers

Thanks Indian brother

 

[jamahir]

Iran designed manned spacecraft able of returning astronomer to earth

firstly, i feel sorry for the monkey in the cage... it is such a small cage... monkeys are not idiotic like dogs to live in a cage... i hope the scientists take him outside into a bigger housing.

now, it is good that the space capsule's interior is simplified and minimal like the new spacex dragon v2, though i don't know if having such a small capsule is going to help.

whatever might be the form of iran's government, this is a big step forward than those six gulf monarchies whose day-to-day running depends on western companies and people.

may iranians succeed.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Iran is hustling to this one manned crew module to space. Well think long term.

This mission will bring sense of pride to the nation of Iran, but what's next?? Their rocket is too damn small to send anything more than 500 kg to space.

Long term ambition should be to build a rocket that can carry 10 tons to Leo orbit.

You always have to start somewhere bro. At least Iran has started, which is something no other middle eastern country has been able to achieve/do yet, bar Israel. Give some credit when due, So i say well done Iran, keep it up.

 

[Siavash]

I wish Ahmadinejad is the first person! We should send him orbiting so we can share him for all man kind! Something so good should not be kept in Iran only. I hope Aliens catch him!

 

[jamahir]

At least Iran has started, which is something no other middle eastern country has been able to achieve/do yet

well, former iraq would have progressed, if not for constant sabotage and sanctions... example, it "super gun" project.

I wish Ahmadinejad is the first person! We should send him orbiting so we can share him for all man kind! Something so good should not be kept in Iran only. I hope Aliens catch him!

 

[mike2000 is back]

India was also planning for human space flight in the last decade but after feasibility studies the cost was too high for us, so everything went on slow path.

I hope Iran and Indian space agencies collaborate and share their technical expertise and also jointly fund the human space programs, this will be beneficial for both space agencies, a joint space station some day

Looks like Iran will send a man to space before India. Though looking closer, i think its a little bit too ambitious for Iran to start thinking about sending a man to space, they have to first go thought the steps/stages India went through, by building/testing bigger rockets which can out bigger payloads in orbit before even start thinking about sending a human to space. Their focus for now should be on building and launching heavier satellites and maybe even Joining the heavy commercial satellite launch market which until now has been dominated by the U.S/E.U/RUSSIA/CHINA (and to a lesser extent maybe soon India). They have to start by building a heavy rocket which can put satellites weighing 1000-2000kg in orbit. That should be Iran's main goal IMO.

 

[jamahir]

Looks like Iran will send a man to space before India.

it does, yes.

Though looking closer, i think its a little bit too ambitious for Iran to start thinking about sending a man to space, they have to first go thought the steps/stages India went through, by building/testing bigger rockets which can out bigger payloads in orbit before even start thinking about sending a human to space. Their focus for now should be on building and launching heavier satellites

no, iran's focus on human launch is correct... look at what india has achieved ( or not ) in 50+ years of the existence of its space agency ( isro )... not capability to launch humans, not capability to launch any luggage to the space station, not capability to launch any luggage bigger than 1.5 tons.

and maybe even Joining the heavy commercial satellite launch market which until now has been dominated by the U.S/E.U/RUSSIA/CHINA (and to a lesser extent maybe soon India).

i believe that satellite launches for earth orbit should be drastically reduced and the remaining launches be put under a global agency like uno.

They have to start by building a heavy rocket which can put satellites weighing 1000-2000kg in orbit. That should be Iran's main goal IMO.

the heavy part is true... spacex had from the beginning the goal of putting seven people into low earth orbit via the dragon capsule and hence innovated to build rockets that could carry the heavy dragon plus this gave them the side-benefit of able to carry heavy luggage to space station.

 

[mike2000 is back]

no, iran's focus on human launch is correct... look at what india has achieved ( or not ) in 50+ years of the existence of its space agency ( isro )... not capability to launch humans, not capability to launch any luggage to the space station, not capability to launch any luggage bigger than 1.5 tons.

well, even though you are right to some extent, however i think India has still been able to achieve quite a lot (though granted maybe they could have done more). After all, despite having relatively small rockets with payloads of less than 1.5 tons, yet they managed to send a satellite to orbit Mars(though granted NASA did help them a lot by providing deep space tracking/control etc), something even Japan and China who has have had far far larger rockets payload for a long time now still hasn't achieved(though its also because the Chinese leadership are every risk averse/conservative). So at east there is something India did that countries. So hopefully India next rockets will have far bigger payload capacity like Japan/China/E.U(though by then these countries would have built/launch far bigger rockets as well). So there's always room for progress, but we should never back down, especially after having achieved good results. Failure is not trying/starting at all

 

[Siavash]

I read somewhere that India's Mars mission was a great success in par with US mars mission and a very difficult task with 130 million $ budget very much smaller than US budget. If there is no man in space there should be a good reason. May be India doesn't see it necessary to try man in space and is having other goals. I don't think it is because of incapability. Man in space missions are good if you want to secure a nuclear warhead safe entry in atmosphere from an ICBM. I don't see much other use for it anyway.

May be they don't have extra Ahmadinejad that we have!

 

[jamahir]

After all, despite having relatively small rockets with payloads of less than 1.5 tons

for some reason, my quoted number made me recheck the indian isro's launch history with its pslv rocket and turns out i was partially wrong... yes, more than 1.5 tons for leo but not close to spacex's capability...

yet they managed to send a satellite to orbit Mars(though granted NASA did help them a lot by providing deep space tracking/control etc), something even Japan and China who has have had far far larger rockets payload for a long time now still hasn't achieved(though its also because the Chinese leadership are every risk averse/conservative).

i agree with you partially, but again, isro's mars mission was not something spectacular ( like putting a lander on one of the two moons of mars )... isro is competent in a traditional way, i agree.

So there's always room for progress, but we should never back down, especially after having achieved good results. Failure is not trying/starting at all

agreed... isro may not be innovative but they are competent in a traditional way.

and i hope iran succeeds in its yuri gagarin program.

May be India doesn't see it necessary to try man in space and is having other goals.

that has sadly been the partial reason... the typical indian cultural attitude of rejection of risk-taking and radical innovation kept the indian agency ( isro ) into making satellites... when the first south asian space traveler, rakesh sharma, was sent to "salyut 7" space station of ussr in 1984, even that didn't make isro enthusiastic into having a human space program.

lack of money is not the excuse or cannot be the excuse, because india in the last 15 years or so has become the biggest armaments/military-systems importer in the world and that was huge money spent.

india as a society must change its non-innovative attitude.

Man in space missions are good if you want to secure a nuclear warhead safe entry in atmosphere from an ICBM. I don't see much other use for it anyway.

not even setting foot on the moons of mars or on mars itself??

 

[mike2000 is back]

for some reason, my quoted number made me recheck the indian isro's launch history with its pslv rocket and turns out i was partially wrong... yes, more than 1.5 tons for leo but not close to spacex's capability.

True, though India needs to up its game, since its still not able to enter the heavy commercial launch market which demands launch vehicles with a payload of 4000-5000kg , reason just the U.S/RUSSIA/E.U and China have been dominating these segment for a long time now. This is what India should be aiming for IMO. 500-1500 kg is still in low end segment and brings in very little cash(about 15-30 million dollars, compared to over 300 million dollar for heavy commercial launches/equipments)

 

[Siavash]

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not even setting foot on the moons of mars or on mars itself??

I don't see that being a priority for now. I think Iranian leadership thinks pragmatically on space programs. First they needed indigenous satellite to monitor and control and command. Now they need to be capable for re-entry methods just in case and also need higher altitude (more endurance) for their satellites and possible future ICBM's. I think these two practical reasons drives space exploration. They need cover for it and space exploration and Man in space does that. Other nations like India doesn't need that cover story.

Man on Mars/Moon is nice but not with Iranian budget or at least not alone! Unless it is a Nestle Mars!