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Turkey, Iran step up fights on PKK, PJAK

Increasing acts of violence by outlawed Kurdish organizations in the region have pushed Turkey and Iran to conduct separate operations on the Iraqi border

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Increasing acts of violence by outlawed Kurdish organizations in the region have pushed Turkey and Iran to conduct separate operations on the Iraqi border, which has witnessed serious clashes between Iranian forces and militant groups.

The Iranian army has launched a powerful operation against the Party for Free Life in Kurdistan, or PJAK, in Iran, reportedly crossing the Iraqi border as it intensified its efforts in recent days to reach the group’s headquarters in the Kandil Mountains of northern Iraq.

In a separate move, the Turkish military began a limited operation against the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or PKK, in the Şemdinli district of Hakkari province, on the Iraqi border, the private channel CNNTürk reported Tuesday. It said additional troops have been sent to the military outposts in the region and claimed some targets had been shelled. Turkey’s anti-terror operations have intensified following the killing of 13 troops July 14 in Diyarbakır’s Silvan district.

Diplomatic sources said the two countries’ operations were not linked and no military coordination had been sought thus far despite their continuous cooperation in the anti-terror fight.

PJAK is a banned group with alleged links to the outlawed PKK, which is listed as a terrorist organization by Turkey, the United States and the European Union. PJAK operates mostly in Iran from bases in northern Iraq.

The Iranian army launched its recent operation July 16 and clashes between the Sipah Pastaran Army of Iran and PJAK forces intensified over the weekend, the pro-Kurdish Fırat News Agency reported Tuesday, claiming that militants repelled Iranian forces and killed at least five troops. The Iranian army offensive was supported by a strong bombardment, it claimed.

The Fırat News Agency is sympathetic to pro-Kurdish political parties in Turkey and often carries announcements from the PKK.

The Iranian army, however, announced Tuesday that PJAK militants were trapped by a group of Kurdish Basij (volunteer) forces Monday night in the Kandil, Haji Ebrahim and Doleto areas near the towns of Piranshahr and Sardasht in West Azerbaijan province. “The PJAK terrorists were killed by the local Kurdish Basij forces. The bodies of the terrorists were left in the area,” the army said, adding that the operations would continue until the last militant was annihilated.

Ankara mulls new measures

In Ankara, civil and military officials held a security summit Tuesday to review measures taken against growing terrorism acts, including the government’s fresh proposal of giving police a larger role in the anti-terror fight. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Chief of General Staff Gen. Işık Koşaner’s weekly meeting turned into a summit as they were joined by Interior Minister İdris Naim Şahin, Justice Minister Sadullah Ergin and Deputy Prime Minister Beşir Atalay. No statement was made after the one-and-half-hour long meeting.

Search for effective ways to fight terror

The PKK’s deadly ambush of troops in Silvan, which has been followed by other attacks on soldiers, has increased public anger and pushed the government to seek more effective ways to fight terror, including the proposal about the police, which was seen by critics as marginalizing the army. Details of the proposal may have been discussed during Tuesday’s meetings though the government has not made the details of its plan public yet. Opposition parties have severely criticized the government over the proposal, claiming it is a punishment to the army and a sign that it distrusts its effectiveness. “Both our police and military are responsible for the security of our country,” Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozdağ told reporters Tuesday in response to opposition criticisms. “We are of the opinion that this move will be to the advantage of our country.” Sending newly recruited soldiers to fight militants is not logical, Bozdağ said, adding that this is why the government was planning to deploy professional soldiers. Ankara has announced that it will recruit nearly 5,000 contracted soldiers to serve the army, especially along the mountainous borders with Iraq and Iran, where militants frequently attack Turkish military outposts. A senior official from the main opposition party on Tuesday demanded information on the developments in the fight against terror. “If you do not have a secret agenda in the fight against terror, we are ready to give support to you,” said Emine Ülker Tarhan, a deputy parliamentary group leader of the Republican People’s Party, or CHP. “Putting the police forward in this fight would cause a rift between army and police.” she added.

TURKEY - Turkey, Iran step up fights on PKK, PJAK
 
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You can see statements like this just in Turkish Media ! No other country or UN have never mention this.

To cover the humiliated defeat for more than 30 years against P.K.K, turkey must find the better excuse !

Here is the better excuse :

The Green head Aliens from Mars help and armed P.K.K that's why you could'nt defeat them for more than 30 years !

Are you trolling? If so, carry on. If not, read my post #41.
 
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Are you trolling? If so, carry on. If not, read my post

While we are fighting with Iranian branch of P.K.K (pajak) and many Iranian soldiers were killed during last 4 years and one of my relative was among them how dare you guys are to blame Iran to Support P.K.K ? We support P.K.K to kill our self ?
Is like that I say turkey support Greek militia in Cyprus !
 
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The article just mention from Turkish source ! bring evidences and sources from somewhere outside of turkey !

Although, the evidence you are asking for has already been shared by a member but a person with a little higher IQ than a neanderthal would see that a peace between Turkey and PKK is against Iran's interests, therefore it is normal for Iran to try preventing it.
 
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Although, the evidence you are asking for has already been shared by a member but a person with a little higher IQ than a neanderthal would see that a peace between Turkey and PKK is against Iran's interests, therefore it is normal for Iran to try preventing it.

P.K.K is a mortal enemy of Iran .....this is the thing that Turkish media doesn't know or better to say don't want to know ! And It doesn't need any level of IQ !
 
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While we are fighting with Iranian branch of P.K.K (pajak) and many Iranian soldiers were killed during last 4 years and one of my relative was among them how dare you guys are to blame Iran to Support P.K.K ? We support P.K.K to kill our self ?
Is like that I say turkey support Greek militia in Cyprus !

Those Iranian soldiers used to be the only people i respect who have direct relations with the Iranian regime, but then, i saw Iranians with PKK leader's avatar. He had that picture in his avatar for more than a month and i haven't seen a single Iranian saying anything against him for carrying a murderer's picture who has also killed many Iranians.

Then i thought, if Iranians have no respect to their fallen soldiers, why the fvck should i?

P.K.K is a mortal enemy of Iran .....this is the thing that Turkish media doesn't know or better to say don't want to know ! And It doesn't need any level of IQ !

Perhaps, that is the reason why Iran want PKK's hands full with Turkey.
 
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i'm not sure but when I think of it I think there's an ethnic tie between kurds and the MEK , so I guess the MEK is complicating this , cause as far as I know all the fights with MEK has taken place in Kurdish populated areas and borderlands
 
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who is he ? some information about him , if he is captured then that would be easy .

by the way today's no spy carry such data with him . they just send them online and get rid of the evidence as soon as possible


I'm talking about your links . in short they have nothing to do with Iran. they are between turkey and Iraq

My links ? I told you that i cannot will find something on the WEB about my intention to Proof it.

Iran and Turkey will keep this Secret.

Or do you think you can go and give a link on the internet that is enough for a Proof ?

You can see statements like this just in Turkish Media ! No other country or UN have never mention this.

To cover the disability to defeat the P.K.K, turkey must find the better excuse !

Here is the better excuse :

The Green head Aliens from Mars help and armed P.K.K that's why you could'nt defeat them for more than 30 years !

Funny Turkish Media ? Your only argument...........!!!
 
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P.K.K is a mortal enemy of Iran .....this is the thing that Turkish media doesn't know or better to say don't want to know ! And It doesn't need any level of IQ !
Guys, it's not about if Iran supports PKK or not, or if it is their sworn enemy, or even if Iran and Turkey fought the PKK together in the past and present.

The main question currently is:
If PKK withdraws from Turkey and if PKK doesn't target Turkey anymore. Than what will PKK target?
Iran is concerned about what will happen next, it's concerned about losing an ally (Turkey) in the fight against PKK and Iran is concerned that it will become PKK's next main target. Or the PKK's forces switching to PJAK.

In my opinion it is plausible that Iran may have offered PKK weapons (not sure how true it is though, hopefully it's not true). But if Iran is really concerned, than it is capable of making bad decisions (like any other country in the world). But what Iran as well as Turkey, Iraq and KRG need to focus on is to persuade PKK to lay down their weapons and to dissolve.
 
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Guys, it's not about if Iran supports PKK or not, or if it is their sworn enemy, or even if Iran and Turkey fought the PKK together in the past and present.

The main question currently is:
If PKK withdraws from Turkey and if PKK doesn't target Turkey anymore. Than what will PKK target?
Iran is concerned about what will happen next, it's concerned about losing an ally (Turkey) in the fight against PKK and Iran is concerned that it will become PKK's next main target. Or the PKK's forces switching to PJAK.

In my opinion it is plausible that Iran may have offered PKK weapons (not sure how true it is though, hopefully it's not true). But if Iran is really concerned, than it is capable of making bad decisions (like any other country in the world). But what Iran as well as Turkey, Iraq and KRG need to focus on is to persuade PKK to lay down their weapons and to dissolve.

As i said before, Iran and Turkey are not allies. Despite Turkey's role in Syria which is completely against Iranian interests and despite Iran's support to PKK, economic relations between the two country is growing merely because of their dependency on each other.

Iran is right about being concerned, because once Turkey get rid of this parasite, PKK will become mostly Iran's problem. If i could trust those animals not to harm innocent Iranians, i would have even support my country to help PKK against the zealots and their minions in Iran, so that they could taste of their own medicine.
 
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As i said before, Iran and Turkey are not allies. Despite Turkey's role in Syria which is completely against Iranian interests and despite Iran's support to PKK, economic relations between the two country is growing merely because of their dependency on each other.

Iran is right about being concerned, because once Turkey get rid of this parasite, PKK will become mostly Iran's problem. If i could trust those animals not to harm innocent Iranians, i would have even support my country to help PKK against the zealots and their minions in Iran, so that they could taste of their own medicine.
I said ally in the fight against PKK, not just Ally. I'm sure you know what I mean now.

Personally I don't wish PKK to be problematic for Iran. I don't want my country to experience such a problem like the PKK, don't you think it would be hypocritical of me if I wished a problem like PKK to a third country (like Iran)?

It is in Turkey's best interest to have stable neighbors with strong economies. In turn this makes Turkey stronger. Wishing Turkey's neighbor a problem like the PKK, will only hurt ourselves in the long run. And then you always got the danger that PKK will turn against us for whatever reason.
 
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