SalarHaqq
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Who is reformist? and hardliner is little small word for hosting Indina naval base next to Pakistan!
There's no "Indian naval base" anywhere in Iran. Islamic Iran's constitution explicitly forbids the establishment of foreign military bases on Iranian soil.
Who is religious leader in ME besides Iranian religious leaders?
While all the mess is only because of Iranian missiles, whose blue prints were given by Benazir Bhutto and Zardari and who know what Imran Khan team is leaking.
Iran didn't receive missile blueprints from Pakistan. The countries which initially provided Iran with Scud missiles, helping Iran to kick start its domestic missile program, are Libya and Syria.
How surprising, every Iranian i meet is seeking democracy but never a single one from the hordes on this forum... seems like worlds apart.
Iran is already a democracy. Albeit not a western-style liberal secular one, but a religious democracy.
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Reformist cannot run, previous Iran President, Rouhani is also a conservative, but he is a moderate one
This isn't exactly accurate.
Concerning Rohani, he is not part of the factions commonly referred to as conservative. Actually, Rohani is perhaps the single most despised politician among so-called conservative factions - with the sole exception of some currents within the Motalefe party. Every other "conservative" organization does not want anything to do with this person.
Also, about reformists: not one, but two reformist candidates were allowed to run at this year's presidential election. Their names are Hemmati and Mehralizadeh.
Here's evidence:
The following quote is from the Wikipedia entry about Hemmati's party, the Executives of Construction Party of Iran (ECPI).
The Executives of Construction of Iran Party [a] (Persian: حزب کارگزاران سازندگی ایران, romanized: Hezb-e Kārgozārān-e Sāzandegi-ye Irān) is a reformist[8] political party in Iran, founded by 16[5] members of the cabinet of the then President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani in 1996.[7][3] The party is a member of Council for coordinating the Reforms Front.[8]
As for Mehralizadeh's political formation, called Way of the People Party, it is reformist as well.
See the title of the following BBC article:
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www.bbc.com
راه ملت؛ تولد حزبی جدید در 'بازار شام' اصلاحطلبان
Allow me to translate for you: "Way of the People; Birth of a new party in the "dinner market" of the Reformists" ("eslāh-talabān" means reformists in Persian).
In fact, moderates were absent from this year's election, whereas reformists were represented.
Middle East people still dont understand the concept of democracy to let all powers have chance to rule, instead what they think of democracy is to let what they want to rule to win any election, and if the reality doesnt like that, they protesting the elected leader like happening in Egypt.
If democracy has been run, so any conflict must also be solved in institution instead of the street (demonstration)
If Middle East want to be democratic, both their nationalist and Islamist should see each other as partner instead of enemy and compete in programs and track record to win votes.
Don't know about the rest of West Asia, but Iran is a religious democracy. Far more democratic than western liberal so-called "democracies".
Imagine that at the height of the Cold War, one of two major political currents allowed to run at Indonesian elections was apologetic towards the USSR and communist China, and that its foreign policy program basically consisted in acquiescing to every single concession which Moscow and Beijing asked of Jakarta... Which is basically the program liberal factions in Iran (both reformists and moderates) have sought to implement. These liberals are bent on bowing to demands formulated by the US regime, Iran's main geopolitical enemy.
Also imagine that the Indonesian president awarded an academic prize to an author claiming "Pancasila is dead"... Like Rohani awarded the 9th Farabi Human Sciences Prize to political science professor Javad Tabatabai, who had declared to a French journal: "Islam is dead".
Only then will you accurately grasp the degree to which Iran is democratic. Incomparable to any developing and even developed nation I know of, to be honest.
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Wat will it do for him to be an Iraqi nationalist? Are ur men in the army , are ur generals even nationalists? Isn't that why ur shameless generals fled wen isis took over Mosul? Didn't they drop their weapons and their pants and flee? Which one of them was a nationalist? Have a freaking country first and then talk about ideologies such as nationalism. Are u gunna deny u guys are a BANANA republic? Iran came to save ur capital Baghdad wen isis was successfully pushing thru. Be thankful u have a home. Otherwise isis wudve made u grow a giant ugly beard and make u sell women in the markets. PATHETIC
Actually, any Iraqi nationalist in his right mind would advocate friendly ties and cooperation with Iran, and would correctly identify the US and zionist regimes as the main threats to Iraqi sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity.
You call that pathetic state of urs a country ? Lmao. Look at you and look at ur state. You can do nothing . You are capable of nothing. Your pm is a joke. Your military is a joke. Your people are a joke. Only thing that's not a joke is that u obey us. And u will obey us or we will make u pay . Deal with it.
I understand the user you were replying to got on your nerves, but this doesn't reflect Iran's position, brother.
Iran does not seek to vassalize any of its neighbors and allies. On the contrary, unlike the US regime Iran establishes friendly ties on equal footing and respects its partners' national sovereignty. Look at how Iran informed Iraq prior to the missile strikes on the US base at Ayn al-Assad.
Or listen to Iran's senior diplomat Hossein-Amir Abdollahian, who recounted an anecdote where the US regime asked Iranian delegates to organize a meeting in order to discuss the Iraqi dossier - the Americans suggested the meeting should be held behind closed doors and no Iraqi officials should be allowed to assist; Iran on the other hand said no way, we will not enter any discussion with you on Iraq as long as Iraqi officials themselves aren't allowed to be present! And so on, and so forth.
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You seems to misunderstand what people are saying on this thread. I saw no one here having issues with Iran or Iranians.They do however have issues with the mullah regime that would probably suffocate it's own people even more now with this hardliner elected.
It seems many Iranians feel the same , as the majority of them ( 52% ) , didn't even bother showing up for the election. And from those that did bother to vote - 14% put in an Invalid/blank vote .
Yes you read correctly , from the 28.6 million that did vote , 4 million Iranians put in an invalid or or blank vote.
Just for comparison in 2017 , there where only 1.2 invalid votes.
Seems the only way left open for Iranians to voice their opinion is either not to participate , or put a blank vote. With close the 60% of Iranians doing just that , they indeed have voiced their opinion,
Wrong conclusions drawn, I'm afraid. In fact, even if voter turnout was 73.1% like in 2017, even if all the additional votes went to the liberal candidate, and even if we were to assume that every single blank or void vote was in fact a protest vote against the system, the revolutionary / principlist candidates would still have gotten a clear majority!
This simple calculation proves it:
17.926.345 votes for Ra'isi
3.412.712 votes for Rezai
999.718 votes for Ghazizadeh
Total of votes for revolutionary and/or principlist candidates = 22.338.775
2.427.201 votes for Hemmati
3.726.870 blank or invalid votes
13.909.262 votes deficit to reach a 73.1% turnout
Total of presumed votes not going to a revolutionary and/or principlist candidate (if all blank and void votes were cast by citizens not supportive of revolutionary candidates, and if participation was as high as 73.1%, with all additional votes going to a liberal) = 20.063.333
In other words, based on what we know and no matter how one looks at it, the revolutionaries and/or principlists are now favored by a majority of voters. In truth, this majority is likely to be more pronounced even than the above figures suggest, given that many of the void votes were in fact votes for Jalili (another revolutionary candidate who dropped out of the race at the last minute, hence some of his supporters weren't informed), as well as the fact that there were multiple motivations for not voting at this year's election, including the coronavirus pandemic.
So, people can interpret it whichever way they want, but the revolutionary camp today has overwhelming support in Iran.
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