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LOL, who will stop them once they are in power?

This is pure speculation. Whatever the case, as I indicated, various studies have demonstrated the undemocratic nature of western regimes.

Rohani was inn power for 8 years and did not submit to any demands. All he did is genocide in Syria.

Rohani submitted to the west's demands in terms of Iran's nuclear program (more than 80% of the JCPOA's final text had in fact been authored by the Rockefeller Foundation-sponsored International Crisis Group prior to any negotiations).

And more importantly, in a famous March 2016 televised speech, Rohani explained how he was looking forward to "JCPOAs II and III". These were meant to limit Iran missile arsenal and Iran's support for its regional allies.

This entire JCPOA story was simply aiming to make Iran bow to western demands. But some in the zio-American establishment thought the plan wasn't fool proof and preferred to take another route, hence Trump's tearing up of the deal.

And no such thing as quoted above occurred in Syria.

So you deny indiscriminate bombings of towns? Despite million of evidences? Typical lying hypocrite Khomeinist. And you are proud that after expelling 13 million civilians you cant kill more civilians in that area?

Khomeini regime: claims to be Islamic, yet commits biggest genocide of Muslims in history to keep atheist corrupt dictator in power.

Khomeini supporter: claims that Khomeini regime is much better than Western democracies, yet prefers to live in Western democracy.


Rest u just repeat nonsense again and again.

I reject the antics of some zionist bent on inciting Muslims against each other by throwing around inappropriate terms.

Those people in Syria weren't expelled, they moved on their own initiative in order not be caught in the crossfire. Planned expulsion is what zionist colonizers subjected Muslim and Christian Palestinians to in 1948.

No authoritative source (UN, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, renown international lawyers etc) corroborates any of these gratuitously employed terms about the Syrian war. Therefore, the quoted user is simply repeating falsehoods here.

As for my place of residence, at least I'm not settling on land whose owners were driven out by force, nor am I supporting the colonialist project of an apartheid state.
 
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The more these Zionists here shed their Crocodile tears for the "oppressed people of Iran" the more it shows their fear of what's in store for them now that a true Revolutionary government has been elected to power in recent DEMOCRATIC elections in Iran. Keep crying!!!
 
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This is pure speculation. Whatever the case, as I indicated, various studies have demonstrated the undemocratic nature of western regimes.
On contrary, you made pure baseless speculation.


Rohani submitted to the west's demands in terms of Iran's nuclear program (more than 80% of the JCPOA's final text had in fact been authored by the Rockefeller Foundation-sponsored International Crisis Group prior to any negotiations).

And more importantly, in a famous March 2016 televised speech, Rohani explained how he was looking forward to "JCPOAs II and III". These were meant to limit Iran missile arsenal and Iran's support for its regional allies.

This entire JCPOA story was simply aiming to make Iran bow to western demands. But some in the zio-American establishment thought the plan wasn't fool proof and preferred to take another route, hence Trump's tearing up of the deal.
JCPOA was exellent agreement for the mullahs. Otherwise it would be vetoed by Dear Leader and General Council. Now "radical" president will sign similar deal.

And no such thing as quoted above occurred in Syria.
13 million people, almost al of them Sunni Muslims were slaughtered and ethnically cleansed, in order that atheist corrupt dictator could stay in power.

As for my place of residence, at least I'm not settling on land whose owners were driven out by force, nor am I supporting the colonialist project of an apartheid state.
You claim that Khomenism is far superior to Western democracies, yet prefer to live in western democracy.

You are as hypocrite as Khomenist regime you support.
The more these Zionists here shed their Crocodile tears for the "oppressed people of Iran" the more it shows their fear of what's in store for them now that a true Revolutionary government has been elected to power in recent DEMOCRATIC elections in Iran. Keep crying!!!
I just expose your hypocrisy and lies. You claim to be Islamic, yet you commit the biggest genocide and ethnic cleansing of Muslims in history for sake of corrupt atheist dictator.

If you really think that people support your sadistic mullahs them make direct free elections. What you afraid of?
 
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If you really think that people support your sadistic mullahs them make direct free elections. What you afraid of?
Back in 2016 who won popular vote in US presidential election and whom became president?
Did you bring up democracy as important matter when your leaders shook hand with Bahraini leaders or with UAE? If you are that much interested in democracy why all friends in the region are dictators? from Mobrak and Morsi to king of Jordan and Bahrain? Why American ain't worried about democracy in this countries?
And how much do you think israil and those whom sent weapons and terrorists into Syria are responsible for 400k casualties as the UN and Arab League envoy to Syria put out an estimate of this number that had died in the war?
 
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On contrary, you made pure baseless speculation.

I stated a reality.

JCPOA was exellent agreement for the mullahs.

It doesn't matter what you personally think about it. The US regime made that deal and a Rockefeller Foundation-funded NGO wrote most of its content. It was a horrible deal for Iran, because it was meant as a stepping stone towards similar agreements on Iran's ballistic missiles and regional presence. The cases of Iraq and Libya show what is next, after a government accepts limitations to its technological capacities in line with US demands.

Otherwise it would be vetoed by Dear Leader and General Council. Now "radical" president will sign similar deal.

Don't know who "Dear Leader" and "General Council" are. The Supreme Leader in Iran staunchly opposed the JCPOA, but he was pressured by the Rohani administration into accepting it and more importantly, Rohani had a democratic mandate as the elected President and the Leader did not wish to go against that.

Also, nothing was signed: the JCPOA was only a political understanding, not a proper international treaty.

13 million people, almost al of them Sunni Muslims were slaughtered and ethnically cleansed, in order that atheist corrupt dictator could stay in power.

That's a blatant falsehood and an exaggeration by a factor of more than 100. Some 160.000 civilians - not 13 million, died in the Syrian war at the hand of both opposing sides according to pro-opposition sources (real numbers are probably inferior). The war started because of zionist and NATO interference, seeing how they armed and supported an insurgency to topple the government. The government defended itself against armed rebels, which is completely legal.

You claim that Khomenism is far superior to Western democracies, yet prefer to live in western democracy.

You are as hypocrite as Khomenist regime you support.

I just expose your hypocrisy and lies. You claim to be Islamic, yet you commit the biggest genocide and ethnic cleansing of Muslims in history for sake of corrupt atheist dictator.

If you really think that people support your sadistic mullahs them make direct free elections. What you afraid of?

All you do here is exposing your bitterness, given that you need to resort to lowly ad hominems after failing to substantiate the outlandish claims you made.

No such thing happened in Syria. As confirmed by UN, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and every serious international lawyer.

Elections in Iran are much freer than anywhere else.


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Did you bring up democracy as important matter when your leaders shook hand with Bahraini leaders or with UAE? If you are that much interested in democracy why all friends in the region are dictators? from Mobrak and Morsi to king of Jordan and Bahrain? Why American ain't worried about democracy in this countries?

That's because the policies of the zionist regime are beyond hypocritical.
 
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I stated a reality.
You just made a baseless claim. In Western democracy what u vote is what u get. They can even vote for some crazy Khomenist.

It doesn't matter what you personally think about it. The US regime made that deal and a Rockefeller Foundation-funded NGO wrote most of its content. It was a horrible deal for Iran, because it was meant as a stepping stone towards similar agreements on Iran's ballistic missiles and regional presence. The cases of Iraq and Libya show what is next, after a government accepts limitations to its technological capacities in line with US demands.

Don't know who "Dear Leader" and "General Council" are. The Supreme Leader in Iran staunchly opposed the JCPOA, but he was pressured by the Rohani administration into accepting it and more importantly, Rohani had a democratic mandate as the elected President and the Leader did not wish to go against that.
Khamenai can easily overcome any so called "president" decision. They just play good and bad cop for retarded kids. New "radical" "president" will sign same deal,.

That's a blatant falsehood and an exaggeration by a factor of more than 100. Some 160.000 civilians - not 13 million, died in the Syrian war at the hand of both opposing sides according to pro-opposition sources (real numbers are probably inferior). The war started because of zionist and NATO interference, seeing how they armed and supported an insurgency to topple the government. The government defended itself against armed rebels, which is completely legal.
Here some facts for you.

From 2000-2010 Syria population increased by 5 million. Thus without Khamenaistic genocide Syrian population by 2020 would be about 26.4 million. Instead we have 17.5 mln in Syria + 6.6 million external refugees or 24.1 mln. Thus we have a demographic loss of 2.3 million people.

In addition to 2.3 million people loss we have 13 million people displaced from their homes. That's biggest genocide of Muslims in 13 century history hands down. And it was made by Khomenistic regime during the "liberal" Rohani.
 
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Back in 2016 who won popular vote in US presidential election and whom became president?
US is federal state thats why they have federal voting system. Both has pros and cons. But Khomenistic Iran has none.

Did you bring up democracy as important matter when your leaders shook hand with Bahraini leaders or with UAE? If you are that much interested in democracy why all friends in the region are dictators? from Mobrak and Morsi to king of Jordan and Bahrain? Why American ain't worried about democracy in this countries?
No one claims that Bahrtain and UAE are democracies but Iran which is far more brutal regime claims it is.

And how much do you think israil and those whom sent weapons and terrorists into Syria are responsible for 400k casualties as the UN and Arab League envoy to Syria put out an estimate of this number that had died in the war?
Israel did not sent weapons to terrorists in Syria,
 
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You just made a baseless claim. In Western democracy what u vote is what u get. They can even vote for some crazy Khomenist.

My claim is perfectly accurate. Western so-called "democracy" is a controlled type of regime. Only those vetted by the system - including by the zionist lobby, stand a chance of getting elected.

This is the true face of undemocratic western regimes:

Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

Chomsky: The U.S. behaves nothing like a democracy

Stark New Evidence on How Money Shapes America’s Elections


Besides, candidates breaking their pre-election promises is the norm in the west.

Khamenai can easily overcome any so called "president" decision.

No. Liberals have thousands of tools at their disposal to pressure the Leader (such as calling for mass protests backed by Soros and the CIA, like they did in 2009).

Also, the Leader firmly believes in religious democracy, hence why he would not prevent the implementation of a democratically elected President's main campaign promise.

They just play good and bad cop for retarded kids. New "radical" "president" will sign same deal,.

The entire thread is full of demonstrations as to why the different political camps in Iran are worlds apart in their convictions and policies.

Nothing will be signed. The JCPOA was never signed, it's a purely political understanding not a treaty.

Here some facts for you.

From 2000-2010 Syria population increased by 5 million. Thus without Khamenaistic genocide Syrian population by 2020 would be about 26.4 million. Instead we have 17.5 mln in Syria + 6.6 million external refugees or 24.1 mln. Thus we have a demographic loss of 2.3 million people.

That's completely irrelevant. Refugees are alive, not dead. Genocide presupposes killing, not emigration nor decreased birth rates. And not just any killing, killing with the aim of exterminating a particular ethnic or religious community. Whereas millions of Sunni civilians live in government controlled areas of Syria, work for the Syrian state including as soldiers in the army, and so on. Making up one's own definitions on the go leads nowhere.

The UN believes some 400.000 died in the war, most of them combatants. Opposition sources put the figure of dead civilians at some 160.000. Not "2.3 million". Again an exaggeration, this time by a factor of nearly 14.

As for the refugees, these were mostly driven out by the insurgents' and terrorists' insistence on mingling with civilians in densely populated areas, instead of confronting the Syrian Army in open fields.

In addition to 2.3 million people loss we have 13 million people displaced from their homes. That's biggest genocide of Muslims in 13 century history hands down.

Displacement has nothing to do with "genocide".

Show us a source from the UN, AI, HRW, or a renown international lawyer, that speaks of "genocide" in relation to the war in Syria. There is none, because the claim is ludicrous and simply meant to incite Muslims against each other on this forum.
 
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US is federal state thats why they have federal voting system. Both has pros and cons. But Khomenistic Iran has none.
No one claims that Bahrtain and UAE are democracies but Iran which is far more brutal regime claims it is.
Israel did not sent weapons to terrorists in Syria,
Hilary won popular vote and in a real democracy she should have been president the rest is nonsense but nice covering & calling it cons .... you want Iran to have direct free elections but when it come to Americans it's got pros and cons? its handing victory to the loser of the popular vote ...
On Bahrain and the UAE, so you admits you only have good relations with dictators in the region? why is that? because you do know people would reject you? and that's why American would not let these countries experience democracy due to loosing control of them ... Americans invades country under such a cause, impose sanctions under such a cause while their allies are dictators these 2 policies just shows these terms are just excuses for their own interests & sheer hypocrisy ...
Israeail not only sent weapon in some cases paid them monthly ...
 
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My claim is perfectly accurate. Western so-called "democracy" is a controlled type of regime. Only those vetted by the system - including by the zionist lobby, stand a chance of getting elected.

This is the true face of undemocratic western regimes:

Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

Chomsky: The U.S. behaves nothing like a democracy

Stark New Evidence on How Money Shapes America’s Elections
Nonsense. You can vote for everyone in US.

No. Liberals have thousands of tools at their disposal to pressure the Leader (such as calling for mass protests backed by Soros and the CIA, like they did in 2009).

Also, the Leader firmly believes in religious democracy, hence why he would not prevent the implementation of a democratically elected President's main campaign promise.



The entire thread is full of demonstrations as to why the different political camps in Iran are worlds apart in their convictions and policies.

Nothing will be signed. The JCPOA was never signed, it's a purely political understanding not a treaty.
LOL. So called liberals dont have any power even in fake parliament. Not talking about other bodies.

Plus the onnly difference between liberals and radicals is that liberals slaughter much more.


That's completely irrelevant. Refugees are alive, not dead. Genocide presupposes killing, not emigration nor decreased birth rates. And not just any killing, killing with the aim of exterminating a particular ethnic or religious community. Whereas millions of Sunni civilians live in government controlled areas of Syria, work for the Syrian state including as soldiers in the army, and so on. Making up one's own definitions on the go leads nowhere.

The UN believes some 400.000 died in the war, most of them combatants. Opposition sources put the figure of dead civilians at some 160.000. Not "2.3 million". Again an exaggeration, this time by a factor of nearly 14.

As for the refugees, these were mostly driven out by the insurgents' and terrorists' insistence on mingling with civilians in densely populated areas, instead of confronting the Syrian Army in open fields.



Displacement has nothing to do with "genocide".

Show us a source from the UN, AI, HRW, or a renown international lawyer, that speaks of "genocide" in relation to the war in Syria. There is none, because the claim is ludicrous and simply meant to incite Muslims against each other on this forum.
When you count big loses you are using demographic loss. For example when you hear that USSR lost 27 million in WW2 - thats demographic loss.

What Khomenists did in Syria was deliberate and systematic terror campagn for over 9 yearts. Daily terrorist strikes, starvation, deliberate destruction of infrastructures.

As result life expectancy in Syria dropped by 20 years. 13 million people were kicked from homes and more than 2 million demographic loss.

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Nonsense. You can vote for everyone in US.

In the US everything is controlled and vetted by lobbies and the deep state. A candidate from outside the system has zero chance of ever getting elected. Nobody would even get to know who that candidate is.

This is the reality of undemocratic western regimes:

Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

Chomsky: The U.S. behaves nothing like a democracy

Stark New Evidence on How Money Shapes America’s Elections


A completely locked system, no real freedom, no nothing.

LOL. So called liberals dont have any power even in fake parliament. Not talking about other bodies.

Enough to implement their policies against the preference of the Supreme Leader. Enough to pressure the Supreme Leader if they feel the need. Enough to blackmail revolutionaries by threatening the stability of the state through mass protests (with backing from Soros and CIA) like the 2009 "Green movement".

Plus the onnly difference between liberals and radicals is that liberals slaughter much more.

Nobody in Iran "slaughters". This is a zionist and US specialty.

When you count big loses you are using demographic loss. For example when you hear that USSR lost 27 million in WW2 - thats demographic loss.

Not relevant. Only killing counts in this context.

What Khomenists did in Syria was deliberate and systematic terror campagn for over 9 yearts. Daily terrorist strikes, starvation, deliberate destruction of infrastructures.

Nonsense. Deliberate strikes against armed terrorists, which is perfectly legal.

As result life expectancy in Syria dropped by 20 years. 13 million people were kicked from homes and more than 2 million demographic loss.

Nobody was kicked from anywhere. People left of their own volition, so as not to get caught in the crossfire. The terrorists are to blame, since they insisted on staying amidst civilians in densely populated areas, instead of confronting the Syrian army in open fields.

The most funny part about the absurd, historically revisionist picture above is that it could get its designer sentenced by western courts for "triviliazition, read denial of the Holocaust". Western-style "freedom of speech".
 
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In the US everything is controlled and vetted by lobbies and the deep state. A candidate from outside the system has zero chance of ever getting elected. Nobody would even get to know who that candidate is.

This is the reality of undemocratic western regimes:

Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

Chomsky: The U.S. behaves nothing like a democracy

Stark New Evidence on How Money Shapes America’s Elections


A completely locked system, no real freedom, no nothing.



Enough to implement their policies against the preference of the Supreme Leader. Enough to pressure the Supreme Leader if they feel the need. Enough to blackmail revolutionaries by threatening the stability of the state through mass protests (with backing from Soros and CIA) like the 2009 "Green movement".



Nobody in Iran "slaughters". This is a zionist and US specialty.



Not relevant. Only killing counts in this context.



Nonsense. Deliberate strikes against armed terrorists, which is perfectly legal.



Nobody was kicked from anywhere. People left of their own volition, so as not to get caught in the crossfire. The terrorists are to blame, since they insisted on staying amidst civilians in densely populated areas, instead of confronting the Syrian army in open fields.

The most funny part about the absurd, historically revisionist picture above is that it could get its designer sentenced by western courts for "triviliazition, read denial of the Holocaust". Western-style "freedom of speech".
Here facts for you:

1) Indiscriminate bombings of towns and villages is war crime and terrorism.
2) Assad aka Khamenai forces indiscriminately bombed Sunni towns and villages for 9 years on daily basis.
3) Systematic war crimes and murder against ethnic group is genocide.
4) In addition to these systematic murder and terrorism Assad aka Khamenai forces deliberately targeted hospitals, bakeries, burned down crops.
4) They used WMD (chemical weapons) dozens times.
5) They starved down entire towns.

As result of these systematic war crimes and terrorism aka genocide more than 13 million civilians were kicked from their homes, life expectancy in Syria dropped by 20 years, the demographic loss was more than 2 million civilian lives.

Thats biggest ethnic cleansing and genocide of Muslims in 13 century history hands down. You support and justify all these crime, thus you share responsibility for genocide.
 
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Here facts for you:

1) Indiscriminate bombings of towns and villages is war crime and terrorism.
2) Assad aka Khamenai forces indiscriminately bombed Sunni towns and villages for 9 years on daily basis.
3) Systematic war crimes and murder against ethnic group is genocide.
4) In addition to these systematic murder and terrorism Assad aka Khamenai forces deliberately targeted hospitals, bakeries, burned down crops.
4) They used WMD (chemical weapons) dozens times.
5) They starved down entire towns.

As result of these systematic war crimes and terrorism aka genocide more than 13 million civilians were kicked from their homes, life expectancy in Syria dropped by 20 years, the demographic loss was more than 2 million civilian lives.

Thats biggest ethnic cleansing and genocide of Muslims in 13 century history hands down. You support and justify all these crime, thus you share responsibility for genocide.
Learn to swim!!!
 
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1) Indiscriminate bombings of towns and villages is war crime and terrorism.

Except that strikes by Syrian forces weren't "indiscriminate": locations were targeted where intelligence suggested the presence of terrorists.

Something that is reflected in the civilian to combatant kill ratio of the Syrian army, which even according to the figures put forth by anti-government opposition forces is inferior to the Isra"el"i ratio in the numerous wars of aggression launched by Tel Aviv.

Also terrorism is defined differently.

2) Assad aka Khamenai forces indiscriminately bombed Sunni towns and villages for 9 years on daily basis.

Nope, false. Iranian forces bombed almost nothing in Syria. As for Syrian forces, they targeted rebels, therefore no "indiscriminate" action. None of this has anything to do with people's religious backgrounds.

This is a fact, confirmed by sources much more serious than an anonymous zionist user on PDF - namely, the UN, AI, HRW, every renown international lawyer to have commented on the topic etc.

Also, most cities in Syria have religiously mixed populations.

3) Systematic war crimes and murder against ethnic group is genocide.

There was no action against any religious group, let alone an ethnic group. The targets were armed terrorist formations trying to bring about "regime change" through force.

The fact that the quoted user's semantics are fallacious has been amply confirmed by the UN, AI, HRW and every renown international lawyer to have commented on the topic. Who know much better than an anonymous zionist forum user with an apparent agenda to incite sectarianist resentments among Sunni Muslims against Shia Muslims.

4) In addition to these systematic murder and terrorism Assad aka Khamenai forces deliberately targeted hospitals, bakeries, burned down crops.

There was no "systematic" action at all, except against armed terrorists.

Iranian forces never targeted any hospitals, bakeries nor did they burn down any crops. As for the Syrian army, damage it caused to civilian infrastructure was mostly collateral damage ie unintended.

As opposed to the apartheid regime in Tel Aviv, whose Dahya doctrine explicitly calls for the targeting of civilian infrastructures.

4) They used WMD (chemical weapons) dozens times.

There's no conclusive evidence for this. Some of the members of an OPCW panel tasked with verifying the allegations even resigned in protest over the panel's dubious methods.

5) They starved down entire towns.

There's not a single locality whose entire population perished of starvation.

As result of these systematic war crimes and terrorism aka genocide more than 13 million civilians were kicked from their homes, life expectancy in Syria dropped by 20 years, the demographic loss was more than 2 million civilian lives.

Laughable characterization, as confirmed by UN, AI, HRW and international lawyers.

Syrian forces did not "kick" anybody from their homes.

Thats biggest ethnic cleansing and genocide of Muslims in 13 century history hands down. You support and justify all these crime, thus you share responsibility for genocide.

Laughable characterization, as confirmed by UN, AI, HRW and international lawyers.

In modern times alone, there are plenty of conflicts in which many more Muslims were killed, and zionists had a decisive hand in most of these - not to mention the fact that the war in Syria is a consequence of zio-American scheming. Other examples include the illegal embargo on Iraq in the 1990's, imposed by the zionist-controlled US regime, as a result of which nearly 500.000 Muslim babies and children alone lost their lives, including by being deprived of medicine. Or the 1965-1966 mass killings in Indonesia, in which up to 1.2 million people of Muslim background were slaughtered, and which was directly assisted by the Mossad.

Ethnic cleansing is what the zionist regime did to the native Palestinian population during the 1948 Nakba, according to Isra"el"i historians themselves.

And no, the zio-American provoked war in Syria did not lead to the biggest displacement of Muslims in proportional terms. Some 50% of the population were displaced according to opposition sources - which are not necessarily objective, but most of these have found new homes inside their own country, Syria. Those who left the country are said to amount to some 25% of the population.

Whereas in Palestine, no less than 80% of native Muslims, that is close to 700.000 people, were expelled from their homeland during the Nakba, a pre-planned and methodically executed operation of ethnic cleansing.

I take issue with fallacious semantics and faulty logic. One cannot "support" nor "justify" something one correctly identifies as a propagandistic lie. The UN, AI, HRW, and international lawyers are on my side. According to the quoted user's logic, they are all "responsible for genocide". I let readers judge how ridiculous that suggestion is.

The quoted user deliberately spreads falsehoods, therefore shares responsability for the misplaced resentment it generates, which can result in actual violence.
 
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