Indra on supporting Mukti Bahni terrorist..

[Areesh]

you mean mujahideen. that was tried and the result is what you see - two decades of isolation and violence in your country is the direct consequence of such a strategy. India has successfully established the facts behind the cross border terrorism in global opinion.

You can give it any name. For you mujhaideen. For me Kashmiri mukiti bahini. More support to them.

 

[Tiger Genie]

You can give it any name. For you mujhaideen. For me Kashmiri mukiti bahini. More support to them.

Areesh, it is a different language. Mukti Bahini is Bengali. Something Pakistanis never seemed to understand and you simply proved it here.

I hope you do realize Pakistan trying to support these so called mujahideen nuts is what pushed Pakistan to brink of disaster for almost three decades.

 

[pakdefender]

This makes no sense. Pakistani Punjabi dominated west decided to openly deprive Mujibh and teh Bengalis of then East Pakistan. You guys thought you could suppress the East Pakistani Bengalees by genocide and unspeakable war crimes. Indira Gandhi and India showed compassion and intelligence and correctly neutered the Pakistani military in East Pakistan. She was not immature - she was probably a better leader than most at that time. She was murdered by a Sikh guard because of her resolute actions to bring down the Bindranwale uprising which unfortunately necessitated storming teh Golden Temple. Like the Pakistani military had to bomb your red mosque.

She did lose her marbles with teh emergency stunt she pulled - that is something I have not understood



I don't think it is in Pakistani's military's interest to ask for that because it will be too easy to show who actually committed the genocide and rape. Why do you think your military never raises that issue?

Terrorist supporter india and Terrorist organization Mukti Bani must be named and a resolution is absolutely needed.
We will start voicing this opinion and create petitions , its only a matter of time once this becomes official Pakistani
stance

 

[somebozo]

Terrorist supporter india and Terrorist organization Mukti Bani must be named and a resolution is absolutely needed.
We will start voicing this opinion and create petitions , its only a matter of time once this becomes official Pakistani
stance

Also demand apology from Bangladesh for massacre of West-Pakistani civilians and government personals alike..
Lets start a format petition to force Pakistani government...

well,I bet the number of armed forces India posted in Kashmir will surely cross 1.5 millions by PDF logic in coming weeks.


But rest assured,even if it is just over 2 lakh CRPF,BSF and Army soldiers are present,they're going to undermine every dirty game of Pakistan and China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_abuses_in_Jammu_and_Kashmir

After insurgency started in Kashmir valley because of above reasons in late 1980s, Indian troops entered in Kashmir valley to control the insurgency.[71] Some analysts have suggested that the number of Indian troops in Jammu and Kashmir is close to 600,000 although estimates vary and the Indian government refuses to release official figures

Source : Nathan, Joanna."India's leader makes peace overtures in Kashmir", The Times

Pakistan has always been in hell hole & will be so for their Kashmiri cause & addiction.. The more they lean towards Kashmir more unstable Pakistan we will see.. Let them thump their chest.. It's them who are suffering & they can feel better about themselves than us.

India has more hungry people than entire population of Pakistan..talk about being a hell hole..


State of Hunger in India
Hunger in India is a complex issue. It is widespread and the causes are different across various regions. According to latest FAO estimates in ‘The State of Food Insecurity in the World, 2015” report, 194.6 million people are undernourished in India. By this measure India is home to a quarter of the undernourished population in the world. Also 51% of women between 15 to 59 years of age are anaemic and 44% of children under 5 are underweight. Malnourished children have a higher risk of death from common childhood illnesses such as diarrhea, pneumonia, and malaria. The Global Hunger Index 2014 ranks India at 55 out of 76 countries on the basis of three leading indicators -- prevalence of underweight children under 5 years, under 5 child mortality rate, and the proportion of undernourished in the population.
On the other hand, it is estimated that nearly 40 percent of the fruits and vegetables, and 20 percent of the food grains that are produced are lost due to inefficient supply chain management and do not reach the consumer markets.

Facts about hunger in India
Largest India is home to the largest undernourished and hungry population in the world
15.2% of our population is undernourished
194.6million people go hungry everyday
30.7% of children under 5 are underweight
58% of children stunted by 2 years of age
1 in 4 children malnourished
3,000 children in India die every day from poor diet related illness
24% of under-five deaths in India
30% of neo-natal deaths in India

This makes no sense. Pakistani Punjabi dominated west decided to openly deprive Mujibh and teh Bengalis of then East Pakistan. You guys thought you could suppress the East Pakistani Bengalees by genocide and unspeakable war crimes. Indira Gandhi and India showed compassion and intelligence and correctly neutered the Pakistani military in East Pakistan. She was not immature - she was probably a better leader than most at that time. She was murdered by a Sikh guard because of her resolute actions to bring down the Bindranwale uprising which unfortunately necessitated storming teh Golden Temple. Like the Pakistani military had to bomb your red mosque.

1. Bhutto was a Sindhi not Punjabi...Mujeeb launched his seven points in Lahore..Mujeeb was hugely popular with Punjabis..and Ayub Khan was in favor of brokering a power sharing deal with Mujeeb.
2. The war crime theory has never been proven..no mass graves containing 3 Million Bengali victims have ever been discovered in Bangladesh..Another propaganda claim made up by Indian media..
3. Pakistan is also showing compassion and intelligence by backing the Kashmiri and Sikh popular resistance to rule of Hindoo dominated India which is using genocide and war crimes to suppress people.
4. Unlike Indra, Mushraff did not get killed by his body guard for bombing red mosque.
5. Had India not poked its nose..Pakistan would have a different posture on Kashmir..

 

[B+ Dracula]

Areesh, it is a different language. Mukti Bahini is Bengali. Something Pakistanis never seemed to understand and you simply proved it here.

I hope you do realize Pakistan trying to support these so called mujahideen nuts is what pushed Pakistan to brink of disaster for almost three decades.

Pakistan has always been in hell hole & will be so for their Kashmiri cause & addiction.. The more they lean towards Kashmir more unstable Pakistan we will see.. Let them thump their chest.. It's them who are suffering & they can feel better about themselves than us.

Our Dog is Dog & Your Dog = Tommy
.
It's a same War same Fire that you've en-kindled in BD, Now screwing you in Kashmir ....its Called KARMA, Newtons 3rd law
.
Those Good Guys that are in 95% majority have exhausted Russians then Americans and in return we paid some little price of Rebellious attack from Bad Guys which wont accounts more than 5%, And the reason behind their bad feelings towards us is that we invaded their Land of FATA which they wont tolerate, that feeling is now settled down by negotiations with their grand Jirgas. Moreover they've some more complex reason for attacking us like they wont accept DURAND LINE and in favor of free flow towards Afghan land and One more Hot reason for attacking us is that we Muslim Pak is assisting Kafir USA or else

Now stop whining by bringing lame excuses like milking snake or Same fire have burnt your house down....blah blah blah

 

[war&peace]

I wonder who those Analysts are...Perhaps they can't distinguish between State police,BSF,CRPF and Army.I mean,what kind of mad suggests India deployed half of its entire strength in Kashmir alone.Then who are guarding rest of India??



More likely "Those who have a little political insight,even they know that Kashmir is a lost cause"

Thus after this agreement, I hope you stress your govt to start withdrawing the occupation forces since they have done enough genocide and Kashmiri mujahideens have now started to kill them in a merciless way. Freedom to Kashmir

 

[GR!FF!N]

Thus after this agreement, I hope you stress your govt to start withdrawing the occupation forces since they have done enough genocide and Kashmiri mujahideens have now started to kill them in a merciless way. Freedom to Kashmir

In your dreams maybe...

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/states/jandk/data_sheets/annual_casualties.htm

hope even cooked headed people can make out realities out of it...

in 2001,it was over 4500,in 2016,it is 89,62 of them are terrorists.Yup,Freedom for Kashmir from terrorism indeed.

 

[somebozo]

Thus after this agreement, I hope you stress your govt to start withdrawing the occupation forces since they have done enough genocide and Kashmiri mujahideens have now started to kill them in a merciless way. Freedom to Kashmir

India also has more rich people than the entire population of Pakistan. Similarly, US has more poor people than Nauru, Tuvalu and Vanuatu combined, China has more poor than Somalia and Japan has more Christians than Vatican. Stop throwing silly numbers around. Its the percentage of population that matters. So, while India has 4 times as many hungry people than Pakistan, It's population is also 7 times bigger. In percentage terms, 15% of Indian population is afflicted with hunger while the ratio is 22% for Pakistan. So please, stop taking cheap shots by twisting statistical figures. All it does is show you to be an intellectually dishonest person, which I hope you're not.

Back in 1998 we fared in the 10 most poorest countries of the world..despite that we did not have the extreme deprivations and desperation of India...


For many Pakistanis, belt-tightening is likely to be superfluous, since tens of millions live in conditions of extreme deprivation, with menial jobs or none at all, no access to safe drinking water and little in the way of education or medical care. By most estimates, Pakistan is one of the 10 poorest countries in the world.

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/29/w...ies-nuclear-tests-clinton.html?pagewanted=all

It is rather shameful onus on India that it is trying to compete with such a poor and deprived country with its full might on all fronts..Either Pakistanis are god gifted or the Indians are too incompetent..


A measure of billionaire is by no way a healthy indicator of national well being..and many of the Indian so called billionaires reached these positions by iconic corruption..license raj enabled a small group of people to exploit a large group of people amassing huge wealth...effectively a government backed scam...be it the Tata's or the Ambanis or the latest episode of Vijay Mallya..

 

[Anubis]

9 Million Bengali refugees pouring into India were good enough justification for military operation...going by this logic we should push all Afghan refugees into India as well...

"Going by that logic" what you just said here makes no sense at all....Bengali refugees came from East Pakistan and the only place they could RETURN to was EP...and the only solution from Indias perspective was to separate EP...you are talking about Afghan refugees....Afghan refugees cannot RETURN to India....replace the word Afghan with Sikh and you could probably have an argument...otherwise your statement is nothing but a false equivalency.

 

[MilSpec]

In your dreams maybe...

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/states/jandk/data_sheets/annual_casualties.htm

hope even cooked headed people can make out realities out of it...

in 2001,it was over 4500,in 2016,it is 89,62 of them are terrorists.Yup,Freedom for Kashmir from terrorism indeed.

No point, Look at all the contributors on this thread and look at their record of posts on the forum. Don't waste your time.

 

[somebozo]

"Going by that logic" what you just said here makes no sense at all....Bengali refugees came from East Pakistan and the only place they could RETURN to was EP...and the only solution from Indias perspective was to separate EP...you are talking about Afghan refugees....Afghan refugees cannot RETURN to India....replace the word Afghan with Sikh and you could probably have an argument...otherwise your statement is nothing but a false equivalency.

So going by your logic then India should not put its leg into Pakistani affairs in Afghanistan either..Because Afghan refugees cannot pour into India (there is no border connecting two)...and therefore under same Indian logic Pakistan has all the moral authority to influence events in Afghanistan for its own benefit and safety..

 

[Anubis]

So going by your logic then India should not put its leg into Pakistani affairs in Afghanistan either..Because Afghan refugees cannot pour into India (there is no border connecting two)...and therefore under same Indian logic Pakistan has all the moral authority to influence events in Afghanistan for its own benefit and safety..

Absolutely. You should have helped the Sikhs during the turmoil too(since they wanted their own homeland...they had a right to gain independence) but you missed your chance.

 

[somebozo]

Absolutely. You should have helped the Sikhs during the turmoil too(since they wanted their own homeland...they had a right to gain independence) but you missed your chance.

We did help and continue to help...You can never tell how many sleeper proxies are waiting for action day...there is a reason why Indians are such die hard supporters of MQM!...

And why is there a need to open a new front when the Kashmiri freedom fighters are doing well..giving the thorn up the Indian bottom for over 60 Years now..!

 

[somebozo]

Pushback on Pakistan would have been the end of it. Pakistan knew where the limit lay and tried its best within that realm....similar to how they didn't declare outright war on the USSR during the Afghan civil war....they aren't that stupid and foolish....especially after they got royally burned in 1971.

I show you some mirror from the past..

India accuses Pakistan of trying to 'wipe out' leadership
Troops on move as retaliation threat grows

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/dec/19/kashmir.india

Wednesday 19 December 2001 02.35 GMT

and now we are in 2016 with Pathankot fiasco..

The fact is..Indian would have had no balls to take any action against Pakistan...!

 

[Anubis]

We did help and continue to help...You can never tell how many sleeper proxies are waiting for action day...there is a reason why Indians are such die hard supporters of MQM!...

And why is there a need to open a new front when the Kashmiri freedom fighters are doing well..giving the thorn up the Indian bottom for over 60 Years now..!

If your plan is to keep India on the thorn perpetually then I would say you are succeeding....but also you are paying a high price for it...but if your goal is complete separation of Kashmir(like EP in 71) I don't see it happening anytime soon...India had the geographical and strategic advantage both in 71 and now...Bangladesh war was a when and how issue...as when will the war end and how it will be won....Kashmir is a how long issue...it is how long either of you can survive...and financially they have an advantage...diplomatically they are gaining advantage day by day. Now for arguments sake lets say India will never give up because they can afford it...so the question is will Pakistan ever give up...if so when...if not how do you plan to pay for it?(The price here is not only money...but lives,resources and sacrificing overall stability of the country)