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Indra on supporting Mukti Bahni terrorist..

India Gandhi was a great leader. To paraphrase Stanley Wolpert, "Few individuals significantly alter the course of history. Fewer still modify the map of the world. Hardly anyone can be credited with creating a nation-state. India Gandhi did all three."
Wolpert used that for Jinnah, not Indira Gandhi.
 
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And after few years of funding they start their own war inside Pakistan and make Pakistan pay for that.Really,how many million deads Pakistan need just to come into their senses.
Chotay mian to Chotay....Baray Mian SUBHANALLAH
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Pakistan need Senses, Pak need reformation, Pak need blah blah
after waging Shadow wars in BD you still want to be called as Angels of the world....huh :p:
 
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Buddy, dont stoop so low that you have to make a difficult escape..you asked for economic viability of Chahbar to central asia transit and i presented you a potential scenario..Afghanistan is not going to be stabilized for next 10 years at least..actually after the Americans leave..situation may deteriorate even further with all the warlords spinning into action..

Actually,USA is not leaving,and Yes Afghanistan-Taliban war will continue with blessing of Pakistan.But I'm more worried about Pakistan.The level of instability in Pakistan is far more reason of concern for the world.
 
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Chotay mian to Chotay....Baray Mian SUBHANALLAH
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Pakistan need Senses, Pak need reformation, Pak need blah blah
after waging Shadow wars in BD you still want to be called as Angels of the world....huh :p:

Indians have two set of ethics..from common man all the way to high office bearer..

Elections for the Parliament and state governments were postponed. Gandhi and her parliamentary majorities could rewrite the nation's laws, since her Congress party had the required mandate to do so – a two-thirds majority in the Parliament. And when she felt the existing laws were 'too slow', she got the President to issue 'Ordinances' – a law making power in times of urgency, invoked sparingly – completely bypassing the Parliament, allowing her to rule by decree. Also, she had little trouble amending the Constitution that exonerated her from any culpability in her election-fraud case, imposing President's Rule in Gujarat and Tamil Nadu, where anti-Indira parties ruled (state legislatures were thereby dissolved and suspended indefinitely), and jailing thousands of opponents. The 42nd Amendment, which brought about extensive changes to the letter and spirit of the Constitution, is one of the lasting legacies of the Emergency. In the conclusion of his Making of India's Constitution, Justice Khanna writes:

If the Indian constitution is our heritage bequeathed to us by our founding fathers, no less are we, the people of India, the trustees and custodians of the values which pulsate within its provisions! A constitution is not a parchment of paper, it is a way of life and has to be lived up to. Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty and in the final analysis, its only keepers are the people. Imbecility of men, history teaches us, always invites the impudence of power."[13]

A fallout of the Emergency era was – the Supreme Court laid down that, although the Constitution is amenable to amendments (as abused by Indira Gandhi), changes that tinker with its basic structure[14] cannot be made by the Parliament. (see Kesavananda Bharati v. State of Kerala)[15]
 
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BB had a vendetta to lead against Zia and she damaged the war effort on both fronts...first by exposing the Khalista assests secondly she supported the Taliban factions in Afghanistan who were against ISI..for a while it turned into a situation where Pakistani army and government were fighting an opposing proxy war in Afghanistan against each other..

This Bhutto family is a curse cast upon Pakistan...!
Well she was totally opposite of her father and she was of course motivated for revenge as the judicial murder of ZAB was a heinous crime by Zia. However she lost her discretion and ability to distinguish between the state interests and punishing the culprits. She was a power hungry person and did not share the traits of her father who remains to be the most popular and cleanest leader in terms of financial corruption.
 
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Actually,USA is not leaving,and Yes Afghanistan-Taliban war will continue with blessing of Pakistan.But I'm more worried about Pakistan.The level of instability in Pakistan is far more reason of concern for the world.

Actually we have made progress at asserting control over our areas..and it is worrying for Indians because it comes at the expense of busting their monkeys!

Well she was totally opposite of her father and she was of course motivated for revenge as the judicial murder of ZAB was a heinous crime by Zia. However she lost her discretion and ability to distinguish between the state interests and punishing the culprits. She was a power hungry person and did not share the traits of her father who remains to be the most popular and cleanest leader in terms of financial corruption.

FSF working under direct command of ZAB was responsible for numerous murders...and ZAB had he been allowed to rule..would have lost entire Pakistan to India..ZAB was a treacherous socialist..nothing else..and completely ruined the industry and economy!
 
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Chotay mian to Chotay....Baray Mian SUBHANALLAH
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Pakistan need Senses, Pak need reformation, Pak need blah blah
after waging Shadow wars in BD you still want to be called as Angels of the world....huh :p:

Beware,Losers can't be chooser.
We're victorious,and I want to show you what Pakistan's response on that day....


A lot of emotion,But Yes,we were angels.Pakistan is just a void.

Actually we have made progress at asserting control over our areas..and it is worrying for Indians because it comes at the expense of busting their monkeys!

Ahem,there was no "Our Area"..

Silence of the graveyard is not the happiness.
 
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Beware,Losers can't be chooser.
We're victorious,and I want to show you what Pakistan's response on that day....



A lot of emotion,But Yes,we were angels.Pakistan is just a void.
Go on......now Post Big HQ Picture of General Niazi giving his revolver to Indian General

Celebrate more by bringing Cheerleaders videos from Youtube.....who's stopping you...it's your day and you've full rights :fans:
 
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Beware,Losers can't be chooser.
We're victorious,and I want to show you what Pakistan's response on that day....

A lot of emotion,But Yes,we were angels.Pakistan is just a void.



Ahem,there was no "Our Area"..

Silence of the graveyard is not the happiness.

Action is always better than emotion...as we learned by neutralized Indian nuclear blackmail is just under two weeks!

 
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Then this happened...Had it not been for Indra..Pakistan would have reached at-least a negotiated understanding on Kashmir if not a full blown peace and partition plan. Having even minimum understanding over kashmir and border management would have re-started commerce and improved lives of millions of Kashmiris..Indra..played typical evil mother-in-law type politics which had negative geo-political implications...and did not bring her any short term gains either...women in politics is a bad omen..I have always said this...


Indra's immature reactions in East-Pakistan gave West-Pakistan a whole lot new awakening towards its defense..it propelled Pakistan on the fore front of Mujahideen support in Afghanistan which continues to be a terrorist menace today, fast track developments of nuclear bomb, pull China closer in its foreign policy...

And not to mention..the massacre ran both ways..with Mukti terrorist initiating it..by murdering west-Pak civilians and army personal stationed in the east..as well as their families..


This makes no sense. Pakistani Punjabi dominated west decided to openly deprive Mujibh and teh Bengalis of then East Pakistan. You guys thought you could suppress the East Pakistani Bengalees by genocide and unspeakable war crimes. Indira Gandhi and India showed compassion and intelligence and correctly neutered the Pakistani military in East Pakistan. She was not immature - she was probably a better leader than most at that time. She was murdered by a Sikh guard because of her resolute actions to bring down the Bindranwale uprising which unfortunately necessitated storming teh Golden Temple. Like the Pakistani military had to bomb your red mosque.

She did lose her marbles with teh emergency stunt she pulled - that is something I have not understood

Declaring Mukti Bani a terrorist organization that was supported by india is long long overdue
This process should be started ASAP in Pakistan

I don't think it is in Pakistani's military's interest to ask for that because it will be too easy to show who actually committed the genocide and rape. Why do you think your military never raises that issue?
 
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This makes no sense. Pakistani Punjabi dominated west decided to openly deprive Mujibh and teh Bengalis of then East Pakistan. You guys thought you could suppress the East Pakistani Bengalees by genocide and unspeakable war crimes. Indira Gandhi and India showed compassion and intelligence and correctly neutered the Pakistani military in East Pakistan.

Agreed. Same should be repeated in IOK too. More support and love for Kashmiri mukiti bahini.
 
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Agreed. Same should be repeated in IOK too. More support and love for Kashmiri mukiti bahini.

you mean mujahideen. that was tried and the result is what you see - two decades of isolation and violence in your country is the direct consequence of such a strategy. India has successfully established the facts behind the cross border terrorism in global opinion.
 
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Those who has little political insight,they know that Kashmir is a lost cause.And it Pakistan who is in economic crisis,not India.looks like propaganda is eating your logic.
I will agree with you if correct the highlighted sentence by adding the important little word "even", so the corrected sentence will read as follows (i corrected the minor spelling mistakes which you overlooked due to some sort of rush.
"Those who have even a little political insight, they know that Kashmir is a lost cause"
 
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