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timur rusuh lagi gengs udah ditunggangi demo-demo kemarin RIP to the fallen,
demo ngibarin bintang kejora dimukak istana, mabes tni, sabar banget pemerintah
Semakin keras malah makin nga ketemu, mending sabar

Hahaha....that is actually private project ...similar with your legend dream and famous car SMK....

Apa kabarnya Papua sekarang? It seems that civil revolution by local people to get freedom have achieved a new level... If your policy to Papuans still similar like your treatment to East Timor....I can guarantee that you Will loose them soon if PNG, Australia. USA, New Zealand and other pacific countries support their revolution......:suicide:

https://m.kumparan.com/amp/bumi-pap...er&utm_campaign=int&__twitter_impression=true
Just waiting for the southren to arise to burn the north
 
Pengamat militer sebenarnya itu disini , tiap hari update dan punya spesialis pengamat alutsista komplit dari rudal sampe gelombang elektomahnetik sampe diformil dulu itu ngomongin energi kinetik .

Tapi media kok tanya atau sumber rujukan tentang militer ,yg di wawancarai Susaningtyas Nefo Handayani Kertopati .

Masak pemindahan ibukota dikaltim dihubungkan ke pertahanan , katanya pas dari pada kalimantan lain. dari segi geografi etnografi dll , yg konyol dia ngomong gini

"Kontur alam Kaltim juga tidak dikelilingi gunung tinggi sehingga tidak mengganggu pancaran frekuensi berkekuatan tinggi."

Dia ga ngerti kalo pancaran frekuensi kekuatan tinggi tapi gelombang panjang itu bisa jauh radiusnya ,contoh radio bbc london itu sedunia bisa dengar karena gelombang mantul di atsmofer bumi. Lagian jaman now pake satelit ,gunung itu bukan halangan .

Mau pindah Ibukota ke manapun tanpa pertahanan udara komplit dari ciws sampe long sam .radar pasif dan aktif. sama saja ga aman .

Yang namanya media masa itu "jualan narasi" boss, bukan berita. Makanya jangan harap ada media masa (apalagi media masa lokal) yang mau "ribet" untuk ngejar / menggali suatu berita
 
Everyone who says there's a place for more Flankers in our defense doctrine needs to read more.

The fact of the matter is with the upcoming Link-16 integration, K-FX, national NATO optimized BMS, possible F-35 purchase, and upcoming AWACS/MPA purchase they'd just literally be nothing more than show pieces that are only flown on the October parade. Flankers are just a drain and the money should honestly be spent on more F-16's and hell even procuring either ex-USAF F-15E's or Shornets to replace the Su-30's.

I fully advocate any plan that replaces the Su-30's, bonus points if they pick Shornets since it would allow greater interoperability with Australia and Boeing would likely cut us a good deal if we buy them on top of the E-7, KC-46, P-8's, and the next Apache purchase. Hell I am optimistic enough to say Boeing would likely allow limited ToT considering they offered it to India for their MRCA program

Maybe sell them to Malaysia, they likely need the spare parts at this point.


Because neither Russia, China, or the US would allow any of their products to datalink to anything other than their own stuff.

Arms purchasing is just as much politics as it is defense.

Is all of that true, in planning..? or just a bunch of hopes and wishlist...? Really Link-16s, NATO BMS, F-35s..? Hard to believe really, way too good to be true... Quick fact, we are not their allies, and we will never be allies with them, or with any other nation for that matter.. unless we change our constitution first... So why would they trust us enough to share all of that..? it's not like we will ever come and fight for them..

We participated in the design of KFX, but even then we didn't specify Link-16.. only some vague reference to a Indonesian military link that is separate from the Korean K-Link...

"Arms purchasing is just as much politics as it is defense" - So true, and this is what's confusing me... Isn't our basic foreign policy tenet "Bebas Aktif", so why are we attaching ourselves to US / NATO hardware standard as if we are allies with them...? Are we planning on abandoning "Bebas Aktif" for some western alliance in the future...?
 
Yang namanya media masa itu "jualan narasi" boss, bukan berita. Makanya jangan harap ada media masa (apalagi media masa lokal) yang mau "ribet" untuk ngejar / menggali suatu berita
Kebanyakan larinya dah newstainment
 
Timika should be renamed as Giriarta (giri = gunung, arta = harta)

i still insist on naming our new capital Cakra Negara (cakra=center of energy, negara=state/country/nation) thus the city will be the center of energy of our nation

Great ideas indeed :tup:

They only serious with vita berapi..senjate tembak tupai..
Senjate multipurpose je..dapat tembak hal ape saja..dari tupai kat stealth fighter bise nak tembak..

Jangan tupai lach, alien dari planet namek pun bisa ditembak pakai vita birahi :rofl:

timur rusuh lagi gengs udah ditunggangi demo-demo kemarin RIP to the fallen,
demo ngibarin bintang kejora dimukak istana, mabes tni, sabar banget pemerintah

Di Surabaya sini mereka dari kemarin udah berani ngibarkan bendera nya. Cuma kalau saya lihat ini strateginya pemerintah adalah "de-escalation". Saya pribadi seebagai warga Surabaya jengkel banget banget udah lihat kelakuan mereka ngibarin bendera gitu :mad:, tapi yach pemerintah pusat pinginnya "de escalation" tadi, bahkan media masa pun tampaknya sudah "dianjurkan" utk tidak menambahi api (banyak video yg tidak di publish)
 
Is all of that true, in planning..? or just a bunch of hopes and wishlist...? Really Link-16s, NATO BMS, F-35s..? Hard to believe really, way too good to be true... Quick fact, we are not their allies, and we will never be allies with them, or with any other nation for that matter.. unless we change our constitution first... So why would they trust us enough to share all of that..? it's not like we will ever come and fight for them..

We participated in the design of KFX, but even then we didn't specify Link-16.. only some vague reference to a Indonesian military link that is separate from the Korean K-Link...

"Arms purchasing is just as much politics as it is defense" - So true, and this is what's confusing me... Isn't our basic foreign policy tenet "Bebas Aktif", so why are we attaching ourselves to US / NATO hardware standard as if we are allies with them...? Are we planning on abandoning "Bebas Aktif" for some western alliance in the future...?
They are dead f***ing serious about interoperability. That's the future. So mature information network like link 16 is a must. Just look at Cromwell post while ago about our seriousness and some higher up begin the talk with US.

Are they considere us ally?
8:05 , can someone interpret this "Coalition Partner" thing??
 
"Arms purchasing is just as much politics as it is defense" - So true, and this is what's confusing me... Isn't our basic foreign policy tenet "Bebas Aktif", so why are we attaching ourselves to US / NATO hardware standard as if we are allies with them...? Are we planning on abandoning "Bebas Aktif" for some western alliance in the future...?

The basic tenet of "Bebas Aktif" is more of NOT joining any military alliance block of which we have "obligation" to defend (sending force). But that doesn't mean we can't "leaning" toward certain group of nations / supplier either.
 
Hahaha....that is actually private project ...similar with your legend dream and famous car SMK....

Apa kabarnya Papua sekarang? It seems that civil revolution by local people to get freedom have achieved a new level... If your policy to Papuans still similar like your treatment to East Timor....I can guarantee that you Will loose them soon if PNG, Australia. USA, New Zealand and other pacific countries support their revolution......:suicide:

https://m.kumparan.com/amp/bumi-pap...er&utm_campaign=int&__twitter_impression=true
Apa kabarnya ? Baik. It seems you're too naive, pretty much naive regarding West Papua. I can guarantee, while Washington & & Jakarta have common interests in the island, we just don't care on opinions such as yours. Nobody takes you seriously truly
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As for Malaysian Legends, i'm glad you do enjoy a good laugh so am i with all these PIGMOON K made famous
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Hahaha....that is actually private project ...similar with your legend dream and famous car SMK....

Apa kabarnya Papua sekarang? It seems that civil revolution by local people to get freedom have achieved a new level... If your policy to Papuans still similar like your treatment to East Timor....I can guarantee that you Will loose them soon if PNG, Australia. USA, New Zealand and other pacific countries support their revolution......:suicide:

https://m.kumparan.com/amp/bumi-pap...er&utm_campaign=int&__twitter_impression=true
Are you still go to sarawak and sabah with a pasport..
Are they part of malaysia or malaysia only just malaya peninsula
 
The basic tenet of "Bebas Aktif" is more of NOT joining any military alliance block of which we have "obligation" to defend (sending force). But that doesn't mean we can't "leaning" toward certain group of nations / supplier either.

Oh I don't mind us 'leaning' more toward certain nation / supplier.. My problem or worry is if we end up 'relying' or 'depending' too much or even 100% dependent on that 'certain' nation / supplier... How the heck could we be/act independent then?? Anytime we have differences or go against their wishes, we will risk our only source, supply and support of weapons..

Having more options on hand means redundancy and leverage for us.. Aren't you worried about a possible repeat of the east timor debacle? Maybe this time in Papua..
 
Oh I don't mind us 'leaning' more toward certain nation / supplier.. My problem or worry is if we end up 'relying' or 'depending' too much or even 100% dependent on that 'certain' nation / supplier... How the heck could we be/act independent then?? Anytime we have differences or go against their wishes, we will risk our only source, supply and support of weapons..

Having more options on hand means redundancy and leverage for us.. Aren't you worried about a possible repeat of the east timor debacle? Maybe this time in Papua..
As long as marine boys still opted the east gear, i still have confidence, some branch may have bit trouble with their gear when the rain comes but hopely marine dont
 
Hahaha....that is actually private project ...similar with your legend dream and famous car SMK....

Apa kabarnya Papua sekarang? It seems that civil revolution by local people to get freedom have achieved a new level... If your policy to Papuans still similar like your treatment to East Timor....I can guarantee that you Will loose them soon if PNG, Australia. USA, New Zealand and other pacific countries support their revolution......:suicide:

https://m.kumparan.com/amp/bumi-pap...er&utm_campaign=int&__twitter_impression=true

OPM afraids face to face against the greatest militias on earth Banser NU :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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DEFENCE INDONESIA
Indonesian Naval Vessel ‘Bima Suci’ Arrives in Manila for Goodwill Visit
by Indah Gilang Pusparani
Published August 13, 2019 - 14:33 Jkt

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Kapal perang Republik Indonesia (KRI, Naval Vessel of the Republic of Indonesia) “Bima Suci” (945), an Indonesian training ship, docked in Manila on Monday for a four-day goodwill visit aimed at strengthening further the relations between the two Southeast Asian countries.

Commander Jeffrey Magbanua, executive officer of the Assistant Chief of Naval Staff for Civil-Military Operations, led the Philippine Navy (PN) delegates in according a warm welcome to the 192-member Indonesian Navy contingent led by Lieutenant Colonel Waluyo, commanding officer of the KRI Bima Suci.

“The presence of this Indonesian Navy vessel, led by Lt. Col Waluyo and its 103 Indonesia Naval Cadets and 89 officers and crew contingent, underscores the relationship between our government and navies,” Magbanua said.

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Members of the Philippine Navy welcome the Indonesian Navy training ship Kri Bima Suci with 103 Indonesian naval cadets and 89 officers and crew on board for a goodwill visit in Manila on Monday (12/8). Image: ABS-CBN
“This trumpets the Philippine Navy’s commitment in promoting naval diplomacy and camaraderie and fostering goodwill with our Indonesian Navy counterparts,” he added during a news conference following the ship’s arrival as quoted by The Manila Times.


The Philippines and Indonesia have established a long history of defense cooperation.

Since the establishment of diplomatic ties in 1949, Indonesia has been one of the closest allies of the Philippines and the Philippine Navy. Both countries have supported each other’s policies in the region such as democracy and the rule of law in the South China Sea.

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Philippine, Indonesian navy officials pose for a photo-op. Image: Martin Sadongdong/Manila Bulletin
According to Manila Bulletin, a trilateral maritime cooperation agreement on border security was finalized in Kuala Lumpur in 2018 among the Philippines, Indonesia, and Malaysia to prevent lawless elements such as pirates, smugglers, and foreign and local terrorists from using the southern backdoor as their entry and exit points to and from the three countries.

“We know that in the ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations), we have so many issues regarding our maritime sector such as piracy, areas dispute, and fisheries,” Waluyo stated.

“The cooperation is part of Indonesia’s commitments to participate in maintaining security in Southeast Asia which focuses on capacity building in supporting the peace missions and maintaining border and maritime securities,” he said.

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The KRI Bima Suci is a three-mast barque tall ship which is regarded as one of the largest tall ships in the world with a 36,200 sq. ft. of sails, and a capacity for a crew of 200. Image: Antara Foto/M Agung Rajasa/aww
‘Bima Suci’

The KRI Bima Suci is a three-mast barque tall ship which is regarded as one of the largest tall ships in the world with a 36,200 sq. ft. of sails, and a capacity for a crew of 200.

Named after a Javanese hero who was a “symbol of force, bravery, and righteousness,” KRI Bima Suci is the Indonesian Navy’s newest and largest sail training ship which is equipped with a series of “extremely sophisticated navigation and communication tools and a reverse osmosis water supply.”


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OPM afraids face to face against the greatest militias on earth Banser NU :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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Those faces still the same faces that kick the brit *** in 10 Nov 1945 not forget to mention some gurkha and other commenwealth boy scout
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