India's unfair tirade against Bangladesh puzzles Indians too

[UKBengali]

The entire Arab oil flows at Indian mercy and India can cause major problems in that. Just releasing muslim population into pakistan by force and bombing Pakistan will create unbelievable refugee crisis in middle east that will make oil production collapse. In addition, Arabian sea is in Indian control. If international countries need Arab oil, they must accept Indian condition and promise to behave well .Sanctioning India is not the choice they have. Poor countries like Myanmar don't have such leverage. If India decides to teach BD a lesson, none will dare intervene.

What are you smoking dude as I would like some?

You think USN will allow you to harm the world economy by interfering with oil shipments?

Many carrier groups will soon come near India and bomb with glee.
B-2s based in ME bases will carry out decapitation strikes on Indian command centres.

To top it all, China may join in the action to cut India back down to size.

Everyone does not rely on west for economy. West also relies on others for their economy. So, one sided affairs don't work

400,000 Barman textile jobs rely on export to EU and that brings in 2 billion US dollars a year.
Stop taking Barman textiles and BD can ramp up production to cover the losses.

 

[gslv mk3]

What are you smoking dude as I would like some?

You think USN will allow you to harm the world economy by interfering with oil shipments?

Many carrier groups will soon come near India and bomb with glee.
B-2s based in ME bases will carry out decapitation strikes on Indian command centres.

To top it all, China may join in the action to cut India back down to size.




400,000 Barman textile jobs rely on export to EU and that brings in 2 billion US dollars a year.
Stop taking Barman textiles and BD can ramp up production to cover the losses.

You started smoking weed again ??

 

[Vijyes Yechury]

What are you smoking dude as I would like some?

You think USN will allow you to harm the world economy by interfering with oil shipments?

Many carrier groups will soon come near India and bomb with glee.
B-2s based in ME bases will carry out decapitation strikes on Indian command centres.

To top it all, China may join in the action to cut India back down to size.

Myanmar is second biggest hub of weed after Afghanistan-Pakistan. You must have gotten too much of it due to proximity.

India does not fear USA. India is not a small country or weak country to fear USA. India has its own military manufacturing to manufacture enmasse to fight off USA. USA carriers will simply be expensive targets and nothing more. Indian SAM capabilities is excellent to be attacked by enemy planes.

You must stop smoking Burman weed.p

 

[UKBengali]

India has its own military manufacturing to manufacture enmasse to fight off USA.

Dude, you are just too much!

You are the largest weapons importer in the world.

US will destroy India if you think you will harm the world economy by trying to blockade oil ships from the ME.

 

[Vijyes Yechury]

Dude, you are just too much!

You are the largest weapons importer in the world.

US will destroy India if you think you will harm the world economy by trying to blockade oil ships from the ME.

India can make weapons too. Saudi which imports everything is the largest importer of weapons. India makes most of the item it needs on its own or is importing only under contractual agreement. In case of war, India can make most of the items on its own. Agni, Brahmos, Su30 etc all can be made in India

 

[Homo Sapiens]

This is stupidity to say that India responded to Indian Muslims shouting. India gets $100+ billion every year to keep quiet about Muslims. This will only be increased as more pressure is put on India. BJP may not have opposition support but if it goes fully against Muslims, it will get Hindus, Sikh, Buddhist, jain etc support. The opposition will be helpless and if they shout they will be attacked.

Also, understand that India is capable of destroying middle east and Bangladesh together by expelling muslims and causing food crisis. Blockade of Bangladesh is very easy as BD lacks food items like sugar, vegetables, water and fuel items. As I said, India is having a deal with Hasina to keep quiet in return for good behavior. The Bangladeshi illegals can be expelled any time needed when BD misbehaves. So, these are acting as blackmail tool for India to ensure BD does good behaviour.

About international sanction, this aplies only to small countries. India is in a position to dictate terms. The entire Arab oil flows at Indian mercy and India can cause major problems in that. Just releasing muslim population into pakistan by force and bombing Pakistan will create unbelievable refugee crisis in middle east that will make oil production collapse. In addition, Arabian sea is in Indian control. If international countries need Arab oil, they must accept Indian condition and promise to behave well .Sanctioning India is not the choice they have. Poor countries like Myanmar don't have such leverage. If India decides to teach BD a lesson, none will dare intervene.



Read my above reply to know why action is not being taken on illegals.

Pakistan is as weak as Iraq was in 1990. Pakistan is worthless opponent. China India ties have improved drastically since Modi came. China is viewed as old civilisation without any imperial attitude. So, India under Modi sees China as a potential cultural ally. Even during NDA-1, China was viewed favourably for this reason. It will only improve ties further.

What a brainfart from a deluded sanghi. Before releasing these hyperbole, at least take revenge on Pakistan by attacking it for the Mumbai carnage in 2008. Then think about Bangladesh and middle eastern muslim countries. Middle eastern muslim countries do not eat Banana. Out of 20 biggest military power in the world, 5-6 are muslim countries. Each of them is enough strong to tackle India single handedly.

 

[UKBengali]

India can make weapons too. Saudi which imports everything is the largest importer of weapons. India makes most of the item it needs on its own or is importing only under contractual agreement. In case of war, India can make most of the items on its own. Agni, Brahmos, Su30 etc all can be made in India

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-the-last-four-years/articleshow/57244332.cms

Dude you cannot make Su-30 as the engine core comes shipped direct from Russia.

Again, I would love to know what you are smoking?

 

[Bilal9]

India does not fear USA. India is not a small country or weak country to fear USA. India has its own military manufacturing to manufacture enmasse to fight off USA. USA carriers will simply be expensive targets and nothing more. Indian SAM capabilities is excellent to be attacked by enemy planes.

Whomever fed you this BS - at the shakha most likely, is way off track.

Making third gen fighters and missiles may help you bully us, but the United States??



That's it. I think you are ignored now.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-the-last-four-years/articleshow/57244332.cms

Dude you cannot make Su-30 as the engine core comes shipped direct from Russia.

Again, I would love to know what you are smoking?

i believe this is a newly minted fourteen year old bhakt with zero clue. Leave this guy/gal alone, or ignore him/her. No point in wasting precious bandwith...

 

[gslv mk3]

Dude you cannot make Su-30 as the engine core comes shipped direct from Russia.

Su 30 MKI engines are made at HAL Koraput.

 

[Vijyes Yechury]

What a brainfart from a deluded sanghi. Before releasing these hyperbole, at least take revenge on Pakistan by attacking it for the Mumbai carnage in 2008. Then think about Bangladesh and middle eastern muslim countries. Middle eastern muslim countries do not eat Banana. Out of 20 biggest military power in the world, 5-6 are muslim countries. Each of them is enough strong to tackle India single handedly.

India will take revenge on Pakistan at the time India wants. Moreover, the number killed in Mumbai 2008 is less than 200. So, exaggerating is unnecessary. Proportionate damage has been inflicted on Pakistan by various means.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...-the-last-four-years/articleshow/57244332.cms

Dude you cannot make Su-30 as the engine core comes shipped direct from Russia.

Again, I would love to know what you are smoking?

Su30 engine is made in HAL Koraput, 100% indigenous manufacturing. Do you have difficulty in googling?

Whomever fed you this BS - at the shakha most likely, is way off track.

Making third gen fighters and missiles may help you bully us, but the United States?

Is USA Superman? India has excellent set if ballistic and cruise missiles. US does not have aloen technology. Moreover, India has very large population which can be leveraged to attack in large numbers. Fighting 1billion+ people who have advanced technology using a few aircraft carriers is retarded idea

 

[Black_cats]

India will take revenge on Pakistan at the time India wants. Moreover, the number killed in Mumbai 2008 is less than 200. So, exaggerating is unnecessary. Proportionate damage has been inflicted on Pakistan by various means.


Su30 engine is made in HAL Koraput, 100% indigenous manufacturing. Do you have difficulty in googling?

Is USA Superman? India has excellent set if ballistic and cruise missiles. US does not have aloen technology. Moreover, India has very large population which can be leveraged to attack in large numbers. Fighting 1billion+ people who have advanced technology using a few aircraft carriers is retarded idea

Before talking about war go feed your hungry people first and stop pooping beside rail track.

 

[Bilal9]

Su 30 MKI engines are made at HAL Koraput.

The AL31fp SATURN engine is assembled at Koraput. Turning screws and designing/manufacturing engines from scratch are two radically different things.

If we actually look at the real situation (instead of reading from the Sanghi propaganda book), assembly (at whatever stage or percentage of indigenization) is not considered making.

From what I know - almost 90% of the parts (probably less now than four/five years ago) are imported from Russia and assembled at Koraput. India is not at the stage yet to master manufacture (from scratch) of high precision alloy AL-31FP engine compressor parts, high precision and high temperature metal impregnated (oil metal) bearings, squeezed metal/machined fan blades (mostly Titanium I believe) and most importantly, the thrust-vectoring mechanism. So it is just a license for assembly.

Look at where the Chinese are with these, and I would highly doubt India has exceeded the Chinese in this capability.

Three more factors make this unlikely,

1. The failed development of the Kaveri engine effort - it is nowhere even after two decades of 'development', and,

2. The Russians' reluctance to make India independent of Russia in engine technology, and even more importantly,

3. The lost opportunity of graft by corrupt politicians in India benefiting from Russian engine imports.

That is all anyone needs to know.

I would be glad to be proven wrong however...

 

[UKBengali]

The AL31fp SATURN engine is assembled at Koraput. Turning screws and designing/manufacturing engines from scratch are two radically different things.

If we actually look at the real situation (instead of reading from the Sanghi propaganda book), assembly (at whatever stage or percentage of indigenization) is not considered making.

From what I know - almost 90% of the parts (probably less now than four/five years ago) are imported from Russia and assembled at Koraput. India is not at the stage yet to master manufacture (from scratch) of high precision alloy AL-31FP engine compressor parts, high precision and high temperature metal impregnated (oil metal) bearings, squeezed metal/machined fan blades (mostly Titanium I believe) and most importantly, the thrust-vectoring mechanism. So it is just a license for assembly.

Look at where the Chinese are with these, and I would highly doubt India has exceeded the Chinese in this capability.

Three more factors make this unlikely,

1. The failed development of the Kaveri engine effort - it is nowhere even after two decades of 'development', and,

2. The Russians' reluctance to make India independent of Russia in engine technology, and even more importantly,

3. The lost opportunity of graft by corrupt politicians in India benefiting from Russian engine imports.

That is all anyone needs to know.

I would be glad to be proven wrong however...

I did not bother replying to the posters who have no common sense.

If India can truly make the AL-31 from scratch, then there is nothing stopping it from making another engine of the same generation and the smaller Kaveri engine for the Tejas would also have been ready a long time ago.

Just a bunch of hyper-nationalist Indian kids who have little life experience again.

China has now truly mastered engines of the same generation as AL-31 as their WS-10-series powers hundreds of J-11B, J-11D, J-15 and also a customised version is installed on the LRIP J-20 fighter. It was only back in 2009-2010 that the Chinese felt confident enough to install the WS-10A on the twin-engine J-11B, and that was after decades since starting the project back in the 1980s.

 

[Vijyes Yechury]

The AL31fp SATURN engine is assembled at Koraput. Turning screws and designing/manufacturing engines from scratch are two radically different things.

If we actually look at the real situation (instead of reading from the Sanghi propaganda book), assembly (at whatever stage or percentage of indigenization) is not considered making.

From what I know - almost 90% of the parts (probably less now than four/five years ago) are imported from Russia and assembled at Koraput. India is not at the stage yet to master manufacture (from scratch) of high precision alloy AL-31FP engine compressor parts, high precision and high temperature metal impregnated (oil metal) bearings, squeezed metal/machined fan blades (mostly Titanium I believe) and most importantly, the thrust-vectoring mechanism. So it is just a license for assembly.

Look at where the Chinese are with these, and I would highly doubt India has exceeded the Chinese in this capability.

Three more factors make this unlikely,

1. The failed development of the Kaveri engine effort - it is nowhere even after two decades of 'development', and,

2. The Russians' reluctance to make India independent of Russia in engine technology, and even more importantly,

3. The lost opportunity of graft by corrupt politicians in India benefiting from Russian engine imports.

That is all anyone needs to know.

I would be glad to be proven wrong however...

Did you pull this from your arse? Who told you that making engine is impossible? India made R25B engine for MiG21bison in 1970s. Now India is making Su30 engines Al31fp. 0% of engine parts are imported. You must not simply make arbitrary assumptions

http://www.indiastrategic.in/2017/1...aw-material-phase-engine-of-su-30-mki-to-iaf/

I did not bother replying to the posters who have no common sense.

If India can truly make the AL-31 from scratch, then there is nothing stopping it from making another engine of the same generation and the smaller Kaveri engine for the Tejas would also have been ready a long time ago.

Just a bunch of hyper-nationalist Indian kids who have little life experience again.

China has now truly mastered engines of the same generation as AL-31 as their WS-10-series powers hundreds of J-11B, J-11D, J-15 and also a customised version is installed on the LRIP J-20 fighter. It was only back in 2009-2010 that the Chinese felt confident enough to install the WS-10A on the twin-engine J-11B, and that was after decades since starting the project back in the 1980s.

India has been making this Al31FP engine since Fy16. Also, making another engine is not just scaling the parts in size. Things like resonance and other properties have to be taken care of.

Kaveri engine is also almost complete and is set to fly first in 2019. Kaveri engine ia one generation ahead of Al31FP and matches F414 class engines. That is why it took litle more time for India to finalise.

 

[gslv mk3]

The AL31fp SATURN engine is assembled at Koraput.

I'll post a detailed post in the evening.