There is nothing called unconditional in International relation. Everything is give and take. So if you are hopping against the hope then best of luck..Aint gonna happen.
I don't think I am or was looking for unconditional international relationships. That's fool's paradise in my opinion. But I do agree with mutual strategic initiatives and I think that's where the US leadership isn't reading India very well.
Don't get me wrong, this doesn't mean that I am an India hater. This just means, good for you guys but our own politicians need to wake up and not expect India to give us the unconditional support, aka, we need to know to what degree India or anyone else for that matter, can be relied upon.
By the way, thank you for indulging in a sane and rationale discussion. Majority of the Indian members on here, would just turn into flame balls, the second India's interests don't line up with my posts. No matter how factual of an issue you discuss.
@Viper0011. You are seeing imaginary things
Iran is NOT going to get a Nuclear weapon
Nobody will allow that ; these sanctions brought Iran to the brink of economic meltdown
US may have wanted MORE but since other countries ie The other FIVE
countries have Okayed the deal ; US too has accepted this deal. The Ahmedinijad era of rabble rousing is over
There are very educated and capable legal and international experts in the US Senate and in the US State Dept. If you see the current political scenario inside the US on this Iran issue, it's even divided the Democratic party.
There is no guarantee that Iran will not build a nuke. There wasn't one last time either. Remember, they tried to fool the entire globe three times already JUST to buy time. The issue is, Israel's hack into their nuke plants and then their scientists inability to produce the level of tech they needed to produce, was the result of them not having a nuke. Doesn't mean they don't have basic material.
So much time has passed by that by now, they could've produced so much more and would've hid it in different places. There is NO WAY to catch or see any of that. The only way to do this, is to go in ALL the way and either take out these plants or work out an agreement where there is unconditional access given to ANY facility and mutual decontamination protocols like the US and Russia had, where they'd supervise each others commitment to a much lager degree.
Another problem is, if you allow Iran to continue like this, the sanctions will be lifted, they'll go out and immediately buy $ 5 or 10 billion's worth of weapons. Five years from now, if they come back to this again (like they have in the past 3-4 years), militarily, it would be much difficult to resolve this with them, and it would result in a regional conflict, involving Israel, Saudia and obviously the US. I think that's where everyone's focused on.
No one wants a regional conflict big enough that it would put the entire globe on a mini WWIII in the most volatile region (the ME), next to another most volatile region (Indo-Pak). So everyone, including me, wants to make sure that the process has military involvement and the supervision to a degree that no one can violate it. This is world peace on the line.......
Because we won't do anything unconditionally. If you think this is another Iraq where you can starve thousands to death, then attack it to kill another thousands of people, think again.
I mean, isn't this obvious that Israelis are milking you and ordering you to do this and do that? Your leaders have to appease Israel and offer them lucrative arm deals to 'satisfy' them, same for Gulf countries (in others words, beg them to agree with you, the irony) and yet, you see the madman, Netanyahu, openly interfering in U.S internal politics and openly defying POTUS.
All more reason that it is a good deal, when you have a racist Nazi-state (Israel) and a major money source for terrorism and extremism around the world to get worried and shake hands, it means you are doing it right.
The largest threat to the world is U.S. If you disagree, let's compare number of people that both countries have killed. Not to forget the fact that U.S is the ONLY country that has actually used nuclear weapons on people..
Here we go. Who thinks these people want to work with the globe? Read the intensity in the post and you'd wonder why half the globe doesn't trust Iran!!! Right here is an example of that sentiment. These are the SAME people who'd threaten to wipe their enemies "off the map".....and they should be trusted. I don't think so and that's why many in the US legislation don't think so either.
Iran isn't going to require ground invasion, nor there is an issue like Saddam. I think the issue under discussion is the Irani nukes and the facilities can be taken out. In fact, it was the US who stopped Israelis from doing so, otherwise, this would've taken place earlier this year twice already!!!! Can I blame them? NO. If someone in my neighborhood threatened to "wipe my house off the map", you bet I'd feel uncomfortable and defensive at all times!!!
The US used nukes, yes I am aware of it. But also remember, it also brought a conflict to an end that has lasted for like a decade and had it not stopped, no one knew when it would actually stop, and how many more millions would get killed across the globe. From the Japanese shores to Russia!!!! That's like 80% of the entire world. Sometime, to establish peace, hard choices have to be made. And US would ensure the world is a safer place for all, but the party in conflict.
The US has NEVER told another country that it would "wipe them off the map". even by having the might to do so. Talk about responsible leadership. Here, we have Iran, UNDER sanctions, and threatening Israel to be wiped off the map.....really? What would happen if these guys were NOT under sanctions and had more military? I think they'd have actually attacked the Israelis. So do you blame the Israeli's to be concerned with the utter craziness that the Iranians have shows? Do you blame the Saudi's to feel super unsecured due to this extreme stance??? Do you think the American leaders who do not support this agreement are wrong? NO. There are valid reasons to NOT trust the Iranian regime. It's lied to the entire globe so many times.
The French were the last ones to get int sanctions as they have a huge trade relationship with Iran. But they also started to see how a lie-based campaign was being run by the Iranian regime and that Iran needed to be stopped from building a nuke. So even the French took a hit on their trade and joined sanctions. There are many valid reasons. Iran doesn't want to have a straight forward commitment based conversation and agreement. It would be very difficult to sell to the globe that "all of a sudden" Iran has decided to be very friendly to the globe.
I believe, sooner or later, the Iran issue will need to be tackled with. The Israelis, the Saudis and others will act as a unified block, if the US didn't. I can just see the writing on the wall!!!