India's 'substantial sacrifice' on sanctions helped seal Iran nuclear deal: US

[Sam.]

No, China isn't a real threat. Both China and India are a threat. Defense secretary Gates said it a few times and then there was all this hoopla from the Indian lobby and he quietly moved on from that stance. I agree with it.

China is an open threat but India will back stab us and will not be there when we'll need her against the Chinese. Simple is that. I hope our leaders wake up and realize that.

Here's the proof of what I was saying earlier. The Iran deal was a work of intense Indian lobby. Otherwise, there was no way Iran would be able to get out of these sanctions. The biggest financial benefactor of this deal is India. Which is fine but the US didn't have to do it due to the constant pressure from the Indian lobby. We sidelined Israel and many countries' interests, which wasn't cool. I wish that this doesn't go through formal approval.

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Also, you see a flag in my posts, you should respect it. If you can't come out with a fact based answer, you don't have to respond and try to make comments about my nationality when there are two flags from the same country showing my loyalty and allegiance.

Its a common Indian thing (and Chinese), to see a post that doesn't meet your interest and start bitch*ing like a 12 year old girl on periods about someone's nationality and all. How about you guys man up, and post a FACT based response so we can debate. Or go, give your mother a hug and cry about my posts?? No response is needed if you have NOTHING factual to contribute. Thank you.



India is only in it for India and the Indians. Something the West isn't realizing all the way as they expect a "strategic bond" against the Chinese. Which won't be there as India grows.

All these diplomatic, strategic initiatives with the US is a show. We are getting used to the Indian hug and the talk of "strategic partnership", and they are getting used our dollars invested inside India, our technology and jobs, resulting in growing the Indian economy to support its regional expansion goals.

So yes, India is going against Israel in this case to follow strategic interests. The Arabs don't count in the global power struggle. They are monarchs without a vision of the future and each one of them is struggling to keep their own little power shop open and fool their public and deny them rights.

In the future, you'll start to see India going against the US diplomatically too. Sooner or later, it will be all visible to everyone. This is just one example. I wish our leaders wake up and bring back some of the investments we've thrown inside India thinking they'll stand by us, when they'll be-friend China and will try to push us in the North Western corner of the world.

Can the American members take a look at above and provide some opinions please? This is NOT written for Indian trolls to start trolling. I think this is a huge strategic issue from a US standpoint and I'd like to discuss it.

@gambit @C130 @Oldman1 @Luca1 @Solomon2

Why are you in pain ?

We are doing what's in it our best interest and USA is doing what's in their interest. Strong and rich Iran is needed in the region for stability in the region and we are following that suit. Your government is with us so far because their planing or strategy brought instability in the region and helped no one (not even the USA)

It's logical to pursue another path as your other path is failed/mistake. It's in the benefit of the world as well USA and India to have stronger Iran so think about it from neutral perspective. (you are american now so forgot about where you came from)

 

[Irfan Baloch]

WASHINGTON, Acknowledging India's "substantial sacrifice" in backing the sanctions regime against Iran, the White House has again warned that if the Republican-controlled Congress unilaterally kills the Iran nuclear deal, it would greatly damage America's standing.

"No longer would countries like India, who have been making a substantial sacrifice over the years, have any interest or incentive to continue to enforce those sanctions against Iran," White House press secretary Josh Earnest told reporters on Friday.

Indian leaders had agreed to curtail the import of oil from Iran making an "economic sacrifice" and backed the sanctions against Tehran to advance US effort to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon through diplomacy, he said.

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"In essence ...countries like India had agreed that they would take these steps, even at their own expense, to try to reach this broader international agreement," he said.

Earnest recalled that when the sanctions were originally put in place, US officials travelled around the world "including to India, sat down with the Indian government and asked them to curtail the amount of Iranian oil that they imported into the country".

"And we acknowledged in the context of those discussions that this would be an economic sacrifice that the people of India and that the economy of India would have to make," he said.

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"But Indian leaders agreed to it by saying that this is something that they were willing to do if they can advance our effort to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon through diplomacy," Earnest said.

"And the good news is that that agreement has been reached. And it is an agreement that is supported by the international community - 99 percent of the world as the President (Barack Obama) has described it," Earnest said.

"And that's why it would be so damaging to the standing of the United States for the United States Congress to act unilaterally to kill this deal," he said.

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"No longer would countries like India, who have been making a substantial sacrifice over the years, have any interest or incentive to continue to enforce those sanctions against Iran," Earnest said.

"There is no basis, there is no credible claim for why they would be willing to do that," he said.

"And there is no denying the significant negative impact on United States credibility for the United States to be isolated in this way."

"That's why the president has said if Congress were to move forward to kill this deal or kill this agreement, it would, in fact, yield a better deal for Iran," Earnest said.

"Because what we would see is that Iran would get sanctions relief; they would have the ability to sell oil to India and get the proceeds of doing so...without having to submit to the most intrusive set of inspections that have ever been imposed on a country's nuclear programme," he said.

"That's why I've long said that the case before Congress is that Iran is going to get sanctions relief," Earnest said.

"The question is whether or not the United States and the international community is going to get anything for it. And that is ultimately the choice before members of Congress right now," he said.

India's 'substantial sacrifice' in backing sanctions helped seal Iran nuclear deal: White House - The Times of India

and all this time we thought it was Iranian diplomacy and brinkmanship of EU and Americans that went ahead with the deal despite the opposition of KSA and Israel.

Lol on one hand American "acknowledges" Indian "sacrifices" on the other Pak-iran pipeline that was cancelled on US pressure gets no mention and we are even told that this project cant benefit from this US-Iran deal... how unfair give me a pillow to cry on it now please

 

[Capt.Popeye]

and all this time we thought it was Iranian diplomacy and brinkmanship of EU and Americans that went ahead with the deal despite the opposition of KSA and Israel.

Lol on one hand American "acknowledges" Indian "sacrifices" on the other Pak-iran pipeline that was cancelled on US pressure gets no mention and we are even told that this project cant benefit from this US-Iran deal... how unfair give me a pillow to cry on it now please

LoL; @Irfan Baloch ; things can't be so bad as that can it !!
That script by the Americans was introduced for two reasons: one, that India had in fact nagged the hell out of the USA to mend fences with Iran..... keeping the larger regional picture in view. It took time and "events" for the Americans to be worn down....... just as it needed time and "events" to work on the Ayatollahs' obduracy.
Now about the "sacrifices"; it is a ploy to use the huge bipartisan goodwill that India enjoys in Congress to hammer on the GOP P.O.V. and hope to put down the opposition........ never mind what some "Amreekans" here are attempting to sell.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

LoL; @Irfan Baloch ; things can't be so bad as that can it !!
That script by the Americans was introduced for two reasons: one, that India had in fact nagged the hell out of the USA to mend fences with Iran..... keeping the larger regional picture in view. It took time and "events" for the Americans to be worn down....... just as it needed time and "events" to work on the Ayatollahs' obduracy.
Now about the "sacrifices"; it is a ploy to use the huge bipartisan goodwill that India enjoys in Congress to hammer on the GOP P.O.V. and hope to put down the opposition........ never mind what some "Amreekans" here are attempting to sell.

jetay raho India. we can only praise such role which only brings goodness to the region.

now get me another pillow because our project is still sanctioned.

 

[jaunty]

Oh @orangzaib miyan; you never cease to amuse me.... not withstanding your change of avatar. Remember that Aunt Samantha came to romance India in the form of Dubya Bush. Times have changed.... America needs to not onlyy outsource technical jobs to India but part of the biz of looking after Defence interests in S.Asia and the Near East to India. So just wake up.....

Ha ha so @Viper0011. miyan is actually orangzaib? I was not aware that brother orangzaib changed his ID. Guess orangzaib was just too obvious. That explains everything.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

jetay raho India. we can only praise such role which only brings goodness to the region.

now get me another pillow because our project is still sanctioned.

Seriously speaking; India had persuaded EU/NATO long ago that Iran simply cannot be side-lined if the region is going to be stabilised in any way. Incidentally, this was a POV that was even shared by Russia and China and formed an important part of the tri-partite discussions between them on a number of occasions about Afghanistan.
So far the leadership in USA and Iran (the Ayatollah Estt. specifically) time and "events" were required.

Now, how many pillows should I send ???

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Seriously speaking; India had persuaded EU/NATO long ago that Iran simply cannot be side-lined if the region is going to be stabilised in any way. Incidentally, this was a POV that was even shared by Russia and China and formed an important part of the tri-partite discussions between them on a number of occasions about Afghanistan.
So far the leadership in USA and Iran (the Ayatollah Estt. specifically) time and "events" were required.

Now, how many pillows should I send ???

none .. I am done crying over our lost pipeline project maybe our current government was never serious
the ease of tensions with Iran and US and India's positive reaction is going to benefit Pakistan in the future if not in the present.

 

[MilSpec]

K.. What do you've aginst India???? You don't seem to be a American as you're trying to claim.. I'd say you're a Chinese living in US with a big Butt Hurt

Nopes... try again

 

[Capt.Popeye]

none .. I am done crying over our lost pipeline project maybe our current government was never serious
the ease of tensions with Iran and US and India's positive reaction is going to benefit Pakistan in the future if not in the present.

I would hope so. As India gets more pre-occupied in ratcheting up Economic Growth, there ought to less of "tu tu, main main" till...........
But let us leave that thinking for some other time.

 

[volatile]

regional peace ke liye hi to pakistan banaya tha, bhool gaye kya?? now its your turn.

u didnt make infact you regret it ,it was made by Quaid