Yes, P-17 is quite massive for a frigate. I have learnt that P-17A will displace about 6,700 tons, I don't
know if that's empty load or full load though.
That's Kolkata class dsiplacement equivalent... So essentially, IN will have a GP type frigate with ASW emphasis and a GP type destroyer with AAW emphasis.
I think with the implementation of Barak-2 on P-17A will render the Barak-1 useless. The B2 itself can
do anything B1 or pure anti-aircraft SAMs can do.
On large vessels, maybe, but smaller vessel might still (continue to ) use Barak 1. I can see eventually Barak I installed on some now on some larger ships being moved to other, smaller ships as Barak-8 comes available to those larger ships. Still, notably even USN uses ESSM and SM2 side by side (complementary capability + why wast a long range missile on a target that has already closed in to some extent).
Do you think BrahMos-2 is needed for P-17A or BrahMos-1 with upgrades is enough? I'm asking because I've been looking at some new anti-ASCM defences being developed in the West like the MBDA SeaCeptor.
"I think we will need about five years to develop the first fully-functional prototype (of the hypersonic missile). We have already carried out a series of lab tests at the speed of 6.5 Mach," said Sivathanu Pillai, Chief Executive Officer of the Russian-Indian joint venture Brahmos Aerospace.
Joint Russia-India missile to be ready by 2017 | NDTV.com
"We have the guidelines and technology to make Hypersonic missile. However, tests have to be conducted for configuring with the propulsion and the engine and flight tested, which would take at least five years," Pillai said.
BrahMos 2 Hypersonic Missile to be ready in five years - Economic Times
Said in 2012 > 2017 first prototype >
Considering that P-800 Oniks development reportedly started in 1983. By way of an advanced seeker and very high speed, it was intended to defeat the most formidable USN anti-missile defenses, namely the AN/SLQ-35(V)5 Sidekick EW system and RIM-116 RAM point-defense missile. In 1991 the project was put on semi-hiatus due to the post-Soviet financial crisis. An inert prototype was displayed at an arms expo in 1993. It was only in 1999 that the design was declared ready for service and not until 2001 were actual live missiles issued to frontline units.
The BrahMos has been developed as a joint venture between the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO) of India and the Federal State Unitary Enterprise NPO Mashinostroyenia (NPOM) of Russia under BrahMos Aerospace. BrahMos was first test-fired on 12 June 2001. Since late 2004, the missile has undergone several tests from variety of platforms. The vertical launch of BrahMos was conducted on 18 December 2008. On 21 March 2010, BrahMos was test-fired and struck a free-floating ship. On 7 October 2012, the Indian Navy successfully test-fired BrahMos from the guided missile frigate INS Teg. The submarine-launched variant of Brahmos was test fired successfully for the first time from a submerged pontoon on 20 March 2013.
In March this year, India and Russia held talks to jointly develop the hypersonic cruise missile and agreed on a general outline of the design. It was decided that a joint working group will be created to chalk out the parameters of the missile in cooperation with developers and their respective contribution. So, considering the history of Oniks as well as Brahmos I, it may well be that the first OPERATIONAL Brahmos II will not be forthcoming for 5+5 years (2022). The first P17A meanwhile is planned for 2015... so, it will initially have to use Brahmos 1. Brahmos II may be needed to defeat future defences, including directed energy weapons (as with armor versus missile, it is a cycle of threat and counter)
That's not Kolk. That's an Israeli ship used in PR for MFSTAR radar: -
SAAR V to be precise.
That was a total giveaway mate!
Darn, and I'll have to kill anyone who figures it out....
