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Kashmir needs a rapprochement.

A first step, because to most of our minds, that is the point Kashmiris lost the sympathy of other Indians, Kashmiri Muslims should voluntarily vacate and renovate Pandit homes and lead the movement to get them resettled in the Valley.

And protect them with their lives.

See how the mood of 1.4 billion Indians changes then.

The Army comes from our villages.

They don't drop from the skies.

@waz

Cheers, Doc
Ideal solution but that is how it should be. Land belong to people who live there. Be it Baluchistan, Kashmir, South India or East India,.
A central rule like Islamabad, before and now Quetta, governing a large entity (Baluchistan) is not acceptable for every local, living far away from the capital. Not to mention how corruption forced locals to join terrorists/freedom struggle.

Anyway, public can't be rational/educated etc so this burden should be born by Kashmiri leaders. They must channel that their fight is with occupation etc.. and not against a community/religion etc.
 
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Any faggot can talk shit with gun in hand, and face covered. Let him walk alone in the street, and do his bc bc won't last a pretty second.
ust look at the filthy language of these
So true. However, I saw video of our forces after killing TTPs... "b****an phar do inki" I argued before, that in case of Jihad we mustn't do anything which degrade this high level ibadah. As Allah aid (nusrat) may go away then it will be a materialistic fight.. like whosoever has opportunity will win.
 
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100%.
You're spot on that it will actually work in their favour by rolling out the red carpet for Pandit return. Ironically them and the Dogras (another group kicking up a big fuss now) hold the best hope for them to return to what they had.

Return of what?

Will the hindus of Jammu allow muslims to return. How can we forget the biggest genocide of Oct 22nd, 1947 when at that time 237,000 muslims were either killed or forcibly disappeared ( the population would now equal close to a million people).

Even today Jammu muslims are being driven out of their homes in droves. 99% of the J&K regiment is hindu/sikh in a state which is majority muslim.

Hindu leadership had a chance for peace by partitioning Kashmir and Jammu between Pakistan and india which they didn't. They just want to rule a muslim majority state contiguous to Pakistan and treat them like minority muslims.

Even their own hindu leadership in Jammu despised and still hates muslim chief ministers in Srinagar.

The only choice left is confrontation and this choice has been imposed by hindus.
 
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You can sense fear of Kashmiris in his eyes. A policy of total failure. 1 million forces & couldn't do jack sh.. except for killing unarmed civilians. Losers.
 
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The video reveal

1. Kashmiris in IOJK are resisting the unjust siege of their motherland.
2. Indian soldiers, paramilitary staff and police are facing serious setback because of this resistance.
3. Out of frustration they are motivated to kill the local Kashmiris to terrorize and tame them.
4. For Kashmiris it is a do or die situation. Mass struggle is needed to secure freedom.

May Allah bless the Kashmiri Muslims with courage, unswerving righteous stand, endurance, wisdom, righteous path and freedom.

Though cost of this jihad will be huge but in the end IOJK people will InshaAllah gain their freedom from the tyrant Hindutva regime by the Will of Allah subanahu wataala.
 
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Return of what?

Will the hindus of Jammu allow muslims to return. How can we forget the biggest genocide of Oct 22nd, 1947 when at that time 237,000 muslims were either killed or forcibly disappeared ( the population would now equal close to a million people).

Even today Jammu muslims are being driven out of their homes in droves. 99% of the J&K regiment is hindu/sikh in a state which is majority muslim.

Hindu leadership had a chance for peace by partitioning Kashmir and Jammu between Pakistan and india which they didn't. They just want to rule a muslim majority state contiguous to Pakistan and treat them like minority muslims.

Even their own hindu leadership in Jammu despised and still hates muslim chief ministers in Srinagar.

The only choice left is confrontation and this choice has been imposed by hindus.

Nope they won’t. I completely understand you (my roots are AJK). At this point it’s the best we can see happening.
 
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This is what indian hindu nationalism has done to their minds. Made them zombies wanting to kill every resident of the vally.
If he had the change he'd want to do the same to Pakistanis.
 
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West will turn blind eye because india is a pawn
 
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Just entrenched positions and propaganda to feel good here.
Reality is this -

Inspite of 30 years of insurgency, the fact is that a foreigner can just drive or fly into kashmir without any permit. And see the truth.
Can he do that in Pakistan ?
 
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Just entrenched positions and propaganda to feel good here.
Reality is this -

Inspite of 30 years of insurgency, the fact is that a foreigner can just drive or fly into kashmir without any permit. And see the truth.
Can he do that in Pakistan ?


All foreigners that go to India are deluded hipster types in the first place. They get raped and consider that part of the India travel experience.
 
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A dishonest answer. Its driven by religion. Thats why no Hindus, Buddhists and sikhs Kashmiris are separatists. Though i accept your point only some muslims in jk are separatists, but only muslims.

There are multiple points here :

1. When some Kashmiri leftists named the Lal Chowk as that, I believe before the Partition, I don't think there were Hindus, Sikhs and certainly no Buddhists among these leftists. That set an early community separation.

2. I quote this Wikipedia page :
After the Partition of India, during October–November 1947 in the Jammu region of the princely state of Jammu and Kashmir, many Muslims were massacred and others driven away to West Punjab. The killings were carried out by extremist Hindus and Sikhs, aided and abetted by the forces of Maharaja Hari Singh. The activists of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) played a key role in planning and executing the riots. An estimated 20,000–100,000 Muslims were massacred.
This knowledge surely would have left some bad taste among modern Kashmiri Muslims and utilized by the leaders of the current separatists.

3. More than one Hindi films were shot in Kashmir before the 1980s. I don't think the film crews faced problems there while shooting based on being non-Muslim. But there certainly was an undercurrent of socio-economic deprivation. Read this piece by the actor Parikshit Sahni who was recalling an incident with his father Balraj Sahni in Kashmir :
Two pony owners, for some unknown reason, were fighting, lashing out at one another with their whips. I was unnerved at this sight. It looked like these two were hell bent on killing one another. Their faces and arms were lacerated and were bleeding profusely. There was no one around; Dad walked up to them and tried to pacify them, but they paid no heed to him. He implored them to stop and listen to him, but they were in a towering rage and kept whipping one another mercilessly.

In their frenzy, one whiplash accidentally landed on Dad and tore his shirt sleeve, leaving an ugly mark on his forearm. Finding that the two were implacable, Dad backed off. He looked very sad as he stared at them for a while, oblivious of his own pain. ‘Come,’ Dad said to me and we walked off. He was quiet for a while, paying little attention to the whiplash he had received on his forearm. He was pensive and sounded dismal when he finally spoke, ‘I am sure the cause of this fight must be quite trivial. This is what poverty does to people. The sad part is that they are ignorant of the root cause of their troubles—exploitation! They have not yet guessed the reason for their poverty and understood who is responsible for it. That is capitalism for you! The poverty-stricken working classes in India are blissfully unaware of the reason why they are starving. The Hindus blame it on karma and their actions in their past lives. These poor fellows are illiterate and have never given a thought to who is exploiting them. They are not aware that just across those mountains lies the Soviet Union, where poverty and exploitation have ceased to exist; where there is equality and justice. When will there be a revolution in India?’


4. Beginning the 80s the Indian State focused on suppressing the Kashmiri Muslims so those Muslims gathered around and did a closing-of-ranks of the two identities they had : Kashmiri and Muslim.

5. In the last 15 to 20 years the Indian State did not bother to take action against the regressive social elements among the Kashmiri Muslims like Asiya Andrabi and instead concentrated on only the political aspect - separatism. This allowed the regressives to increase in influence, so there happened incidents like some Kashmiri mullahs passing fatwa against the first Kashmiri all-female music band Pragaash and the followers of those mullahs sending out death and rape threats to the three woman members of that band.

All in all, religion is just a manifestation and identity behind a feeling of being repressed by the State. There are no Hindus, even the Hindutvadis, being repressed by the State in J&K or in other parts of the country so the Hindus have nothing to complain.

Inspite of 30 years of insurgency, the fact is that a foreigner can just drive or fly into kashmir without any permit. And see the truth.
Can he do that in Pakistan ?

Not so. I quote this thread OP which is an article by an American reporter Dexter Filkins :
On August 11th, two weeks after Prime Minister Narendra Modi sent soldiers in to pacify the Indian state of Kashmir, a reporter appeared on the news channel Republic TV, riding a motor scooter through the city of Srinagar. She was there to assure viewers that, whatever else they might be hearing, the situation was remarkably calm. “You can see banks here and commercial complexes,” the reporter, Sweta Srivastava, said, as she wound her way past local landmarks. “The situation makes you feel good, because the situation is returning to normal, and the locals are ready to live their lives normally again.” She conducted no interviews; there was no one on the streets to talk to.

Other coverage on Republic TV showed people dancing ecstatically, along with the words “Jubilant Indians celebrate Modi’s Kashmir masterstroke.” A week earlier, Modi’s government had announced that it was suspending Article 370 of the constitution, which grants autonomy to Kashmir, India’s only Muslim-majority state. The provision, written to help preserve the state’s religious and ethnic identity, largely prohibits members of India’s Hindu majority from settling there. Modi, who rose to power trailed by allegations of encouraging anti-Muslim bigotry, said that the decision would help Kashmiris, by spurring development and discouraging a long-standing guerrilla insurgency. To insure a smooth reception, Modi had flooded Kashmir with troops and detained hundreds of prominent Muslims—a move that Republic TV described by saying that “the leaders who would have created trouble” had been placed in “government guesthouses.”
Ayyub and I landed at the Srinagar airport two weeks after Modi’s decree. In the terminal was a desk labelled “Registration for Foreigners,” which she hustled me past, making sure I kept my head down. The crowd was filled with police and soldiers, but we made it to the curb without being spotted, climbed into a taxi, and sped off into Srinagar.

Even from a moving car, it was clear that the reality in Kashmir veered starkly from the picture in the mainstream Indian press. Soldiers stood on every street corner. Machine-gun nests guarded intersections, and shops were shuttered on each block. Apart from the military presence, the streets were lifeless. At Khanqah-e-Moula, the city’s magnificent eighteenth-century mosque, Friday prayers were banned. Schools were closed. Cell-phone and Internet service was cut off.

Indian intelligence agents are widely understood to monitor the rosters of local hotels, so Ayyub and I, along with an Indian photographer named Avani Rai, had arranged to stay with a friend. When we got there, a Kashmiri doctor who was visiting the house told us to check the main hospital, where young men were being treated after security forces fired on them. The police and soldiers were using small-gauge shotguns—called pellet guns by the locals—and some of the victims had been blinded. “Go to the ophthalmology ward,” the doctor said.

At the hospital, we found a scene of barely restrained chaos, with security officers standing guard and families mixing with the sick in corridors. While I stood in a corner, trying to make myself inconspicuous, Ayyub ran to the fourth floor to speak to an eye doctor. After a few minutes, she returned and motioned for me and Rai to follow. “Ward eight,” she said. Thirty gunshot victims were inside.

As the three of us approached, a smartly dressed man with a close-cropped beard stepped into our path and placed his hand on Ayyub’s shoulder. “What are you doing here?” he said. Rai looked at me and quietly said, “Run.” I turned and dashed into the crowd. The bearded man took Ayyub and Rai by the arm and led them away.
 
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There are multiple points here :
1. When some Kashmiri leftists named the Lal Chowk as that, I believe before the Partition, I don't think there were Hindus, Sikhs and certainly no Buddhists among these leftists. That set an early community separation.​
2. I quote this Wikipedia page :​
This knowledge surely would have left some bad taste among modern Kashmiri Muslims and utilized by the leaders of the current separatists.​
3. More than one Hindi films were shot in Kashmir before the 1980s. I don't think the film crews faced problems there while shooting based on being non-Muslim. But there certainly was an undercurrent of socio-economic deprivation. Read this piece by the actor Parikshit Sahni who was recalling an incident with his father Balraj Sahni in Kashmir :​
4. Beginning the 80s the Indian State focused on suppressing the Kashmiri Muslims so those Muslims gathered around and did a closing-of-ranks of the two identities they had : Kashmiri and Muslim.​
5. In the last 15 to 20 years the Indian State did not bother to take action against the regressive social elements among the Kashmiri Muslims like Asiya Andrabi and instead concentrated on only the political aspect - separatism. This allowed the regressives to increase in influence, so there happened incidents like some Kashmiri mullahs passing fatwa against the first Kashmiri all-female music band Pragaash and the followers of those mullahs sending out death and rape threats to the three woman members of that band.​

All in all, religion is just a manifestation and identity behind a feeling of being repressed by the State. There are no Hindus, even the Hindutvadis, being repressed by the State in J&K or in other parts of the country so the Hindus have nothing to complain.



Not so. I quote this thread OP which is an article by an American reporter Dexter Filkins :
Not going to waste time with you. No solution for eternal victims.
Laughable examples , even you realize how weak your 'arguments ' are.
I dont understand your type nor need to. Maybe some people are unsuitable for multi cultural societies.
 
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