well adding 42 of these beast will add punch to IAF, where India can dedicate 100 for Chinese threat in defensive role which will be big head ace for any offensive force sp. with Falcon +Akash + Green Pine + spider + S 300.
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ur best air sup fighters are not put for defence missions during wartime ! mmrca or tejas will do the job....most probaly tejas bcoz it will be a shroter range , low cost ,low maintainence fighter that can be effectively put on defensive missions .. su 30 will do long range interdiction job !!! it can even effectively take down air to ground targets that are not lying far of border ..
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HAL has been steadily stepping up its Sukhoi-30 MKI delivery schedules. While last year it delivered 23 of these fighters, this year it is expected to produce 28. HAL has already supplied 74 of these fighters.
Rs 15,000 crore Sukhoi deal cleared - India - The Times of India
If true , this is the best news , Proves India Can manufacture more than one squadron a year.
23 per year , is a far cry from the 8 a year when they first started.
HAL needs to keep up the Pace.
And IAF will need to maintain the pace of induction as well.
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well i was thinking the other way also...that if we can make a heavyweight jet like su 30mki at a rate of 23 per year then why not < =30 tejas a year !!!!
dont u guys feel like this ???
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well i was thinking the other way also...that if we can make a heavyweight jet like su 30mki at a rate of 23 per year then why not < =30 tejas a year !!!!
dont u guys feel like this ???
HAL is producing SU-30 28 per year because they have to produce ~200 of them...If the same no. of LCA is going to be inducted and IAF is fully committed to this then HAL wont have any problem in opening another production line..
However i think they want to take it slow. so as to incorporate new techs. being developed in new batches...
Someone on another message board brought up an interesting point:
$10 billion / 126 MMRCA = $79.4 million per
$3.3 billion / 42 MKI = $79.4 million per
Looks like the Russians knew exactly what price they can raise it to and still get orders....
$10 billion / 126 MMRCA = $79.4 million per
$3.3 billion / 42 MKI = $79.4 million per
Looks like the Russians knew exactly what price they can raise it to and still get orders....
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i think we r facing force depletion .....
you r thinking of more improvements even after tejas mk2 thats around ~~100 in no.s ...... like tejas mk3 ??
batch 1 = 40 tejas mk1
batch 2 = 100 tejas mk2
batch 3= ??? tejas mk3
well its very gud if it happens .......
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The Hindu : News / National : IAF to upgrade SU-30 fighter aircraft
Modernising its fighter jet fleet, the Indian Air Force is going to upgrade its SU-30 MKI combat aircraft with the help of Russia.
As part of IAFs modernisation programme, we are going to upgrade 50 Sukhoi30 MKI aircraft with help of original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) from Russia, Defence Ministry sources told PTI here.
SU-30 MKIs have been inducted into the IAF in four phases. The ones to be upgraded are from the first phase and the project is likely to be completed in the next three to four years, they added.
Of the 50 aircraft, around five would be sent to the Russian facilities while the remaining would undergo upgrading within India, they said.
Under the modernisation programme, the aircraft will be upgraded to the latest standards and equipped with modern avionics and various other capabilities.
The airframe of these aircraft would also be strengthened to equip them with air-launched version of the 290 km range BrahMos supersonic cruise missile, the sources said.
The SU-30s were inducted into the IAF in late 90s and at present six squadrons of the aircraft are in service.
The first squadron was of the SU-30 was of the K variant but later they were also upgraded to the latest MKI version. Till now, the IAF has placed orders for around 280 of these heavy air-superiority aircraft of which over 100 have been inducted.
IAF is already upgrading its two main fighter aircraft fleet of 60 MiG-29s and is about to sign an around $ two billion deal with France to modernise its 50 Mirage aircraft.
The Jaguar, MiG-27 and MiG-21 fleets have already been upgraded by the force.
Modernising its fighter jet fleet, the Indian Air Force is going to upgrade its SU-30 MKI combat aircraft with the help of Russia.
As part of IAFs modernisation programme, we are going to upgrade 50 Sukhoi30 MKI aircraft with help of original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) from Russia, Defence Ministry sources told PTI here.
SU-30 MKIs have been inducted into the IAF in four phases. The ones to be upgraded are from the first phase and the project is likely to be completed in the next three to four years, they added.
Of the 50 aircraft, around five would be sent to the Russian facilities while the remaining would undergo upgrading within India, they said.
Under the modernisation programme, the aircraft will be upgraded to the latest standards and equipped with modern avionics and various other capabilities.
The airframe of these aircraft would also be strengthened to equip them with air-launched version of the 290 km range BrahMos supersonic cruise missile, the sources said.
The SU-30s were inducted into the IAF in late 90s and at present six squadrons of the aircraft are in service.
The first squadron was of the SU-30 was of the K variant but later they were also upgraded to the latest MKI version. Till now, the IAF has placed orders for around 280 of these heavy air-superiority aircraft of which over 100 have been inducted.
IAF is already upgrading its two main fighter aircraft fleet of 60 MiG-29s and is about to sign an around $ two billion deal with France to modernise its 50 Mirage aircraft.
The Jaguar, MiG-27 and MiG-21 fleets have already been upgraded by the force.
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I agree with you about LCA and Su-30MKI, but I feel the MMRCA winner will be used mainly for strike missions escorted by Su-30MKI and supported by tankers and AWACS. For the same reason, I feel the MMRCA tender will go to a fighter which has excellent strike capabilities (remember, the Jaguars and MiG-27s will soon be phased out).
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hmm..... best available option is rafale .......i wud have gone straight for f 18 sh if it was not american jet ..... u know why.....
sigh... sigh....... kash SH american naa hota !!!!!
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Mere Bhai ..Muuh ki baat chin li
Anyways pretty much all aircrafts are good in AtoG role with maybe SH edging out others by a lil margin.
Still i hope IAF goes for something non american.
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yup thats why rafale is the best option .......not the best air sup fighter.... not the best air to ground fighter...... rightly said omni role fighter !!!
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Pratt & Whitney: India's Ambassador to U.S. Plans Visit - Courant.com
India's ambassador to the United States is scheduled to meet Thursday in East Hartford with executives of United Technologies Corp. and Pratt & Whitney, and later with members of the Machinists union.
In a visit arranged by U.S. Rep. John Larson, D-1st District, Ambassador Meera Shankar is scheduled to tour a Pratt facility and review an F-117 engine, which powers the Boeing C-17 cargo aircraft. India hopes to buy 10 of those planes, which could mean hundreds of millions of dollars worth of work for Pratt.
Last year's defense appropriations bill included $2.5 billion for 10 C-17s for the U.S. military. The Obama administration now wants to shut down C-17 production, however, and seeks no money for it in its current budget. Congressional supporters of Boeing, Pratt and other manufacturers could try to add money for more.
Meanwhile, the U.S. government is brokering a sale of 10 new C-17s to India.
India's ambassador to the United States is scheduled to meet Thursday in East Hartford with executives of United Technologies Corp. and Pratt & Whitney, and later with members of the Machinists union.
In a visit arranged by U.S. Rep. John Larson, D-1st District, Ambassador Meera Shankar is scheduled to tour a Pratt facility and review an F-117 engine, which powers the Boeing C-17 cargo aircraft. India hopes to buy 10 of those planes, which could mean hundreds of millions of dollars worth of work for Pratt.
Last year's defense appropriations bill included $2.5 billion for 10 C-17s for the U.S. military. The Obama administration now wants to shut down C-17 production, however, and seeks no money for it in its current budget. Congressional supporters of Boeing, Pratt and other manufacturers could try to add money for more.
Meanwhile, the U.S. government is brokering a sale of 10 new C-17s to India.
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