India vehemently ratifies the two nation theory after 8 decades of denial.

[illusion8]

If I am supposed to take your word instead of getting proof/evidence for what you claim , I really wouldn't bother to carry on this discussion . So , where a credible source confirming what you said ?

@Secur, I will in general hold you in high regard for your views, I would raise this question in all honesty - Do the minorities in Pakistan feel more secure in Pakistan compared to the minorities in India?

 

[Armstrong]

 

[Vinod2070]

This vinod guy needs to see a doctor - his hatred is consuming him from inside like termites. Sad to see a human being - so obsessed - with something he presumes to hate.

As I said I don't consider Pakistan or Pakistanis my enemies.

On the other hand you are forced to call us "eternal enemies" to justify your very existence.

This is hatred.

Back to the topic at hand, now that our little indian friend vinod - has taken his medication.

I am glad modi has won, this will make more visible the fissures in indian society more apparent. Which will allow our people to take advantage.

Calm down my little indian friend, it is not good for your sanity.

This is the difference between us. I don't want any fissures in Pakistanis society (even the ones that are making them kill more than 15000 of you Shia in the last few decades). I don't want to take advantage of the misery and death of your wretchedly poor people who have no hope.

You need to think deeply. What you hate is not really us.

It is really self loathing... Think about it.

 

[Rafi]

Vinod is the typical indian, with very noticeable inferiority complex.

 

[Iggy]

No , he isn`t asking any valid questions , it is the usual BS one can expect from Indian trolls . And if he wants to discuss this , he may open a new thread for that . He started it or not , but now he is trying to insult Jinnah and Islam with his stupid rants and he is derailing this thread ...

Well then how come you ignore the fact that Pakistanis are insulting the leader we elected?? You have to give respect to get respect..Its plain and simple!!

 

[SrNair]

That doesn't seem to explain the constant reminders to Pakistanis on this very forum about how the Two Nation theory not having any basis in reality or a figment of Muslim League's imagination . The way I see it , for India to appear secular , TNT has to be opposed/denied . Whatever way you try to put this victory , there's no way you can deny Modi over-usage and long term dependency on Hindu nationalist card , the reputation of BJP as an anti-Muslim political party and the historical association with VHP and RSS . These are cold hard facts that people are skipping constantly or trying to rationalize .

Narendra Modi is a Hindu.In a secular country like India every one has its own personal belief and traditions.A PM is also like a common Indian who follow his own personal views and beliefs and so Modi.You cant enforce him to act like some leaders of sickular parties who only plays gimmicks in the front of Muslims for vote banks and rejected them after the election.
Modi has his own pesronal beliefs like a Hindu ,Muslim or Chrisitian.That doesnt mean he dont have any secular traits.
Only difference between Modi and Rahul is that Modi dont play votebank politics.
Indian Muslims realised this and verify by themselves .And so they voted for BJP and that is why BJP got 282 absolute majority

 

[Vinod2070]

If I am supposed to take your word instead of getting proof/evidence for what you claim , I really wouldn't bother to carry on this discussion . So , where a credible source confirming what you said ?

You can read any proper history book of the time. The population numbers are backed by the official census as well. You can look that up.

 

[Rafi]

As I said I don't consider Pakistan or Pakistanis my enemies.

On the other hand you are forced to call us "eternal enemies" to justify your very existence.

This is hatred.



This is the difference between us. I don't want any fissures in Pakistanis society (even the ones that are making them kill more than 15000 of you Shia in the last few decades). I don't want to take advantage of the misery and death of your wretchedly poor people who have no hope.

You need to think deeply. What you hate is not really us.

It is really self loathing... Think about it.

We do not hate indians as people, our enemy has always been the indian state, a very strong indian state is not in out national interest. I have always referred to the indian state as our "eternal enemy" - indian people I have had good friendship with both within india and outside.

 

[illusion8]

Vinod is the typical indian, with very noticeable inferiority complex.

Indians generally don't have something called an inferior complex against anybody - granted that they may regard the whites (only for their wealth) as an evolved species - but a Pakistani or Pakistanis?? - I highly doubt that an Indian will have an inferiority complex against a Pakistani.

and, a inferiority complex for what???? there's nothing a Pakistani can accomplish that an Indian can and more than it.

 

[Rafi]

Indians generally don't have something called an inferior complex against anybody - granted that they may regard the whites (only for their wealth) as an evolved species - but a Pakistani or Pakistanis?? - I highly doubt that an Indian will have an inferiority complex against a Pakistani.

But they do - my friend, it is clearly visible in many indians I have met, and also we see it constantly on this august forum daily.

 

[Vinod2070]

Vinod is the typical indian, with very noticeable inferiority complex.

Conversion does that to your kind. You are not alone in this identity crisis.

 

[T-123456]

Do your own research. Things are easily available on the net about his real vies on Islam and no one can deny the steps he took to move his country in the direction of secularism. Check the list of things he banned.quote]

Yes he banned alot of things for the good of the country.
My question would be,did he ban Islam or any other religion?
Did we still have mosques then,was it forbidden to teach Islam or any other religion?
Ever heard of Imam Hatip? İmam Hatip school - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Secularism in Turkey

Secularism in Turkey was both dramatic and far reaching as it filled the vacuum of the fall of the Ottoman Empire after World War I. With the country getting down Mustafa Kemal Atatürk led a political and cultural revolution. "Official Turkish modernity took shape basically through a negation of the Islamic Ottoman system and the adoption of a west-oriented mode of modernization."

• The abolition of the Caliphate.
• Religious lodges and Sufi orders were banned.
• A secular civil code was adopted to replace the previous codes based on Islamic law (shari’a) outlawing all forms of polygamy, annulled religious marriages, granted equal rights to men and women, in matters of inheritance, marriage and divorce.
• The religious court system and institutions of religious education were abolished.
• The use of religion for political purposes was banned.
• The article that defined the Turkish state as Islamic was removed from the constitution.
• The alphabet was changed from Arabic to Roman.
• A portion of religious activity was moved to the Turkish language, including the Adhan (call to prayer) which lasted until 1950

Where does it say Islam is forbidden?
Ataturk wanted no more arab influence in Turkish society.
You should see the difference between the real Islam and the so called Muslims(some Mullahs,some clerics,Boko Haram,ISIS,and all the other crazy psycho's).
Dont act as ìf you know something about Islam,you only read,hear,see some idiots calling themselfs Muslims and doing stupid things in the name of religion.
Talking about Pakistan,now lets see,you only need to answer one question.
What does the vertical white stripe on the hoist side mean on the Pakistani Flag?

 

[Vinod2070]

Indians generally don't have something called an inferior complex against anybody - granted that they may regard the whites (only for their wealth) as an evolved species - but a Pakistani or Pakistanis?? - I highly doubt that an Indian will have an inferiority complex against a Pakistani.

and, a inferiority complex for what???? there's nothing a Pakistani can accomplish that an Indian can and more than it.

If only he knew.

 

[illusion8]

But they do - my friend, it is clearly visible in many indians I have met, and also we see it constantly on this august forum daily.

Give me a reason why an Indian should have an inferiority complex against a Pakistani.

 

[Secur]

You can read any proper history book of the time. The population numbers are backed by the official census as well. You can look that up.

Nothing for " Presided over or backed officially " then . Great .