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India planned strike on Muridke after Mumbai attacks, Kasuri reveals

The nukes will never be used in India and Pakistan. Chinese can dream on but the next Chinese people's revolution would have occurred before any even medium level conflict occurs between Pakistan and India.

We don't want a nuclear war in the subcontinent. We are investing colossal amounts of money in Pakistan, they are our gateway to the Arabian sea. This is a decades-long plan.

If we wanted a nuclear war in the subcontinent, we could have just handed a suitcase nuke to Kashmiri extremists. The situation is so volatile that even a pin dropping could create a mass panic over there.
 
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India and China have "No First Use" policies.

However, Pakistan has a "First Use" policy.

So if India tries that, they are going to come off much worse, due to Pakistan's significantly larger nuclear arsenal.
Wrong.

India have no first use policy only against non nuclear states. Not against nuclear states, especially pakistan.
 
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India planned strike on Muridke after Mumbai attacks, Kasuri reveals

I don't know what''s new in here.....the loaded Mirage and the SU-30 intercepts were regarding this. The Indians were testing the defensive readiness of the PAF. There was a Phalcon about 80 miles inside India, which was performing ELINT, and was recording any SAM radar frequencies which would theoretically be lit up, as the Mirages got closer to the border. The PAF responded smartly, no SAM system was activated and they intercepted the Mirage at the border through regular air-defense radars using GC.

Per the reaction and not knowing the SAM coverage AND the fact that Pakistan put 75% of the PAF by FOB's, which means negating the BVR advantage as in this case, even the AIM9x would be used properly within 22 mile radius, the real attacks were called off per high risks identified, and fear of immediate retaliation of course.
 
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Why did US was considered to become a third party that too to get permission from pakistan to attack Pakistan ? Insane in its different level. If india attacked the launching pads by then US would have stepped in and stopped pakistan from escalation . Or we mighy have faught war which is long pending .

What you are calling a "Third Party" aka, the US, has trillions invested in India. Its because of the US, that you are in a position today to act like a soup-o-powa on defense forums and in personal communications. So the US wants their investment safe and protected. The money and the jobs weren't given to India so one day, all this mess could stop the US business in the US, due to the back office being down. The money was given to India so the US would get support for operations inside and outside of the US. So the US is really the major loser if a war breaks out and you people go nuts and start using flash lights. Which will happen due to the volatility and craziness in this region. Every single Western defense analyst calls this the most dangerous region in the world!!

Now when you'd do stupid shiit like these wars, which would result in US's investments and businesses suffering, both inside India and in the US, obviously, that won't be allowed. So the US will tell you with a smile and force behind their communication to calm the fukk down and both of you need to talk it out. The issue is, both the sides have hawks in them and they think they are really a soup-o-powa!! When reality is different. So until both of you guys sit down and talk.....the US will have to keep interfering to safeguard their investments and business interests, and to make sure the world doesn't see a nuke war!
 
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Now when you'd do stupid shiit like these wars, which would result in US's investments and businesses suffering, both inside India and in the US, obviously, that won't be allowed. So the US will tell you with a smile and force behind their communication to calm the fukk down and both of you need to talk it out. The issue is, both the sides have hawks in them and they think they are really a soup-o-powa!! When reality is different. So until both of you guys sit down and talk.....the US will have to keep interfering to safeguard their investments and business interests, and to make sure the world doesn't see a nuke war!
Ironically 'US' is the only country in the world to have used nukes on another country.
 
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Ironically 'US' is the only country in the world to have used nukes on another country.

Precisely, and that is why they don't want to use them again and don't want anyone else to use them either. You think before they dropped it, they really knew the long term devastation it would bring? New inventions are like new medications, they may seem useful at first, but the person using a new med for Kidney disease, may get a heart attack. So the side effects are ALWAYS learned later as the theory goes into operational form in the shape of a pill (or a nuke here). So since the long term effects were seen, the US's has been avoiding these same wars with the Russians, took a stand against India and Pakistan by putting sanctions on them, North Korea, Iran, etc. I know you'll bring up Israel but the US doesn't need to do anything about it, they have never threatened anyone with a nuke, not have their scientist been trying to help others build it.
In fact, it was the US who pushed for limitation of many thousands of warheads, down to a few thousand warheads with the Russians, etc. The US (however you look at her from Pakistan), is a very responsible country. Before using Iraq as an example on me, ask your Arab friends about Iraq as they asked us to protect them.
 
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Precisely, and that is why they don't want to use them again and don't want anyone else to use them either. You think before they dropped it, they really knew the long term devastation it would bring? New inventions are like new medications, they may seem useful at first, but the person using a new med for Kidney disease, may get a heart attack. So the side effects are ALWAYS learned later as the theory goes into operational form in the shape of a pill (or a nuke here). So since the long term effects were seen, the US's has been avoiding these same wars with the Russians, took a stand against India and Pakistan by putting sanctions on them, North Korea, Iran, etc. I know you'll bring up Israel but the US doesn't need to do anything about it, they have never threatened anyone with a nuke, not have their scientist been trying to help others build it.
In fact, it was the US who pushed for limitation of many thousands of warheads, down to a few thousand warheads with the Russians, etc. The US (however you look at her from Pakistan), is a very responsible country. Before using Iraq as an example on me, ask your Arab friends about Iraq as they asked us to protect them.

Ok the rest of your post makes sense but.
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New Delhi is completely spineless, and lives of common Indian's is extremely cheap to the policy makers in India. We will keep dying in bomb blasts in hotels, railways, and bus stations, and our politicians will keep making money over our misery... This will not end in our lifetimes.

Like @Slav Defence said, attempted stealth trolling does not fool anyone.
You should take that advice.
 
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Don't worry, Uncle Sam's stopping India-Pakistan to fight, he'll also keep a check on Israel. By the way, Israel has a right to make statements like these, when Iran's janitors get up and casually suggest on the media that "we'll wipe Israel off the map"/

When you issue these grave threats to a country's existence, they have a right to hit back at you (verbally at the least) and make sure the person saying this crap knows the consequences too....

New Delhi is completely spineless, and lives of common Indian's is extremely cheap to the policy makers in India. We will keep dying in bomb blasts in hotels, railways, and bus stations, and our politicians will keep making money over our misery... This will not end in our lifetimes..

Don't you think your post is a little (or much) over dramatic? I mean, oppose anyone getting killed in any attack, whether it be an Indian or Muslim or Jewish person. But your post over exaggerated the issue. Nevertheless, you should definitely reach out to Modi. May be he'll take a selfie with you and will give you his vision on this subject too?
 
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Don't you think your post is a little (or much) over dramatic? I mean, oppose anyone getting killed in any attack, whether it be an Indian or Muslim or Jewish person. But your post over exaggerated the issue. Nevertheless, you should definitely reach out to Modi. May be he'll take a selfie with you and will give you his vision on this subject too?
 
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New Delhi is completely spineless, and lives of common Indian's is extremely cheap to the policy makers in India. We will keep dying in bomb blasts in hotels, railways, and bus stations, and our politicians will keep making money over our misery... This will not end in our lifetimes.


You should take that advice.

Doesn't matter if they have a spine or not. They know a conventional attack can easily escalate, and since the nuclear threshold on the India-Pakistan border is the lowest in the world (thanks in part to the Nasr platform), they are putting their own lives on the line. After all, New Delhi is very close to the Pakistani border. :no:

And I know you guys blame us for giving nuclear tech to Pakistan, as well as testing the warhead designs for them. IF that is true then their nuclear arsenal is not only bigger than yours, but significantly more advanced too. Since we had thermonuclear warheads since the 1960's.
 
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Doesn't matter if they have a spine or not. They know a conventional attack can easily escalate, and since the nuclear threshold on the India-Pakistan border is the lowest in the world (thanks in part to the Nasr platform), they are putting their own lives on the line. After all, New Delhi is very close to the Pakistani border. :no:

And I know you guys blame us for giving nuclear tech to Pakistan, as well as testing the warhead designs for them. IF that is true then their nuclear arsenal is not only bigger than yours, but significantly more advanced too. Since we had thermonuclear warheads since the 1960's.
sure , whatever floats your boat.
 
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Why do you insist on putting words into other people's mouths? :lol:

And do not make such a ridiculous claim that the Pakistani government was behind 26/11, since there is ZERO proof of that.

Same as how there is ZERO proof that China gave Pakistan nuclear weapons, like you guys are always crying about.
Ask AK Khan which said on TV about Chinese proof..... and also ask UN which is in possession of Chinese Blue print...lol your liar like a pak.

PAK also ask about proof , please give proof , we dont know what happen inside out country....

Doesn't matter if they have a spine or not. They know a conventional attack can easily escalate, and since the nuclear threshold on the India-Pakistan border is the lowest in the world (thanks in part to the Nasr platform), they are putting their own lives on the line. After all, New Delhi is very close to the Pakistani border. :no:

And I know you guys blame us for giving nuclear tech to Pakistan, as well as testing the warhead designs for them. IF that is true then their nuclear arsenal is not only bigger than yours, but significantly more advanced too. Since we had thermonuclear warheads since the 1960's.
Intelligent person , NASAR was not even born that time.. if India see NASAR a threat India will buy IRON DOME ..... India dont think NASAR a threat..
 
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1st you need guts to attack Pakistan, wich you didn't have as well as moral ground.
2nd you run to USA, because you knew we will kick your a$$ so hard you won't be able to sh!t

Areyy yaar come on . Dont talk about balls with us. Matter uf fact we launched a strike and gave birth to independent Bangladesh . And I dont think india should consult Americans . It was a blunder by congress party .

You ran to USA as a backup. Because if Pakistan responded back then you would go crying to your daddy USA.

That's the reason you briefed USA about it. Does Israel ever brief USA about a attack on Hezbollah? They do it regardless as they have a independent foreign policy.

India is spineless, simple as that.

Chevk my previous comment
 
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