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We don't want a nuclear war in the subcontinent. We are investing colossal amounts of money in Pakistan, they are our gateway to the Arabian sea. This is a decades-long plan.

If we wanted a nuclear war in the subcontinent, we could have just handed a suitcase nuke to Kashmiri extremists. The situation is so volatile that even a pin dropping could create a mass panic over there.

We have to come to expect a better class of making up bs from the Chinese than what you've said here. Either you have let yourself be too influenced by your Pakistani friends here or letting the current doldrums in China get to you too much. A suitcase nuke? Guess you've been fed a lousy translation of American Tv.

Just be careful ok? lest this becomes 201 :) China ‘punishes’ nearly 200 for spreading rumors - MarketWatch
 
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Smart government. Their is difference in being spineless and suicidal. Your government avoided commiting suicide

How is it even smart when small country wage proxy war against India and not to declare war ?

Indian Fighter Planes Violate Pakistani Airspace

By M. Hussain

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has violated Pakistani airspace and were intercepted by the Pakistan Air Force. The incidence took place on the 13th of December, at midnight. The military establishment in Pakistan is considering this to be a serious violation and PAF air bases are on full alert.

2 Indian Su-30 MkI ingressed in the Lahore sector, Pakistan's second most important city after Karachi. 3 Indian Mirage 2000H ingressed in the Kashmir sector. The Su-30 Mki "FLANKER" were intercepted by 3 F-16s and 3 F-7 combat aircraft from the Pakistan Air Force, while the Mirage 2000Hs were intercepted by 2 F-16s and 2 Mirages The intercepts were made within 4 miles of entering Pakistani territory, and the intruders were escorted out of Pakistani airspace. According to the PAF, the Indian aircraft were fully armed.

The Indians are in violation of agreements to not send combat aircraft within 10 km of their own boundaries. The simultaneous nature of the intrusion, in the middle of the night, being fully armed clearly indicates it was no mistake, and is replicative of Israeli tactics with Syria.

The Indian Air Force may use this opportunity to gather EW and radar signatures as well as measure the intercept response time and location. They may seek out information on new assets added by the Pakistani side, such as the TPS-77 radars. Both the Su-30 Mk I and the Mirage-2000Hs are equiped with EW equipment that could be used for such a purpose.


The Information Minister, Sherry Rehman, claimed that it was a mistake from the Indian side, which directly contradicts the PAF, and one may add, logic. In a joint press conference with the British PM, Zardari echoed this response and said Indian violation was a technical fault of IAF. While PAF denies that it was fault.

Grande Strategy (Edited)

UPDATE | Dec 14, 2008, AM: TROOPS ON THE MOVE?

A number of people travelling between Lahore and Rawalpindi over the past two days have reported that a heavy redeployment by the army was under way.

“Long convoys of military trucks are heading towards Lahore from Jehlum,” Jawad Khan, a motorist, told Dawn.

UPDATE | Dec 14, 2008, PM: Aircraft Descriptions:


Lahore: 2x Indian Air Force Su-30 (armed) – intercepted and escorted out by 3x Pakistan Air Force F-16s and 3x F-7s
Muzaffarabad: 3x Indian Air Force Mirage 2000 (armed) – intercepted and escorted out by 2x Pakistan Air Force F-16s and 2x F-7s.

UPDATE | Dec 14, 2008, PM: Emergency declared at Shorkot, Sarghoda airbases


SARGHODA: Emergency has been declared at Shorkot and Sarghoda airbases on Sunday after India violated Pakistan air spaces twice on Saturday by sending its fire jets.

According to sources, Indian Air Force sent its fighter jets into Pakistan air spaces on Saturday in Lahore and Kashmir areas which were forced to go back by Pakistani fighter jets.

UPDATE | Dec 14, 2008, PM: Army Confirms Artillery Movement


LAHORE: The Pakistan Army moved medium and heavy military artillery vehicles from the Lahore Cantonment area to the north of Punjab on Saturday, causing a scare in the minds of the general public about an eminent offensive with India.

However, the Director-General of the Inter-Services Public Relations, Major-General Athar Abbas, described the military movement as being part of routine winter military exercises.

A statement issued by the ISPR said the 10th Corps was returning to the Lahore Cantonment after completing its winter exercises while the 11th Corps was moving to Jhelum to replace it.

Earlier, The News reported that hundreds of medium and heavy artillery vehicles had moved out of the Lahore Cantonment area along the Motorway north of Punjab. It also said that there was movement of artillery from the Tilla Range in Jhelum
towards Lahore. (ANI)


2008 air alert
After the 2008 Mumbai attacks, PAF was put on high alert. It deployed to all its wartime locations and started combat air patrols. The speed and intensity of the deployment and PAF's readiness took the Indian Army High Command by surprise and later reports suggest was the main factor in the Indian decision of not going for cross border raids inside Pakistan.[42][43] Pakistani press reported issuance of a PAF Standing Order to launch an immediate counterattack in case of an air attack from India, after Indian Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee threatened Pakistani President.[42][43]

Yiu missed out pigeon thing:sarcastic:

Time has changed world's most feared fighter vs world's cheapest option :haha:
 
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How is it even smart when small country wage proxy war against India and not to declare war ?



Yiu missed out pigeon thing:sarcastic:

Time has changed world's most feared fighter vs world's cheapest option :haha:
Because that small country has more nukes than you and massive Armed Forces to strike back
 
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Spineless congress government wasted precious time by going to US . Why did US was considered to become a third party that too to get permission from pakistan to attack Pakistan ? Insane in its different level. If india attacked the launching pads by then US would have stepped in and stopped pakistan from escalation . Or we mighy have faught war which is long pending .

Hope these things won't happen this time around as I like to bring up one sentence from Modi's interview before he a day for election on zee news channel . " If Pakistan attacked you , you go to Obama (he mocked Obama Obama help help) ? Should have gone to Pakistan"

Sure india wont estate to enter Pakistan if some like 26/11 happens . It will be do or die for both . Only best can survive . No help will be lended other than words rhetorics and weapon supply. As world is not fools to get destroyed along with Indo pa k war

How about a better alternative. You can make another Bollywood movie to vent out your frustration. That way you can feel better without living hoping for something you can't do.

If you think they wouldn't have responded, leading to an "escalation" (with platforms like Nasr expediting things), then why didn't you do it? :lol:

Suppose the escalation does not happen. How would India look at the end of the day when in response of their surgical strikes, Pakistan hits certain targets in India surgically. What would happen to the hubris And arrogance of our mutual neighbour.
 
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Because that small country has more nukes than you and massive Armed Forces to strike back
Oooooo nukes arey bhai u gonna use nuke for ceasefire violation next time ? U have have nukes so does we .Your uninformed missile launch will be termed as nuclear attack on india and retaliation will follow even before your nuke reach Indian airspace . Are yiu aware of that ? Thats why every single missile test schedules are shared between enemies like india and pakistan . . . So in our eyes of military establishment you are a small country and thats the reality . Dont yiu agree . ?

How about a better alternative. You can make another Bollywood movie to vent out your frustration. That way you can feel better without living hoping for something you can't do.



Suppose the escalation does not happen. How would India look at the end of the day when in response of their surgical strikes, Pakistan hits certain targets in India surgically. What would happen to the hubris And arrogance of our mutual neighbour.

Why to ban that Hindu movie and vent your frustration :bunny::bunny::bunny:
 
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