India is the Last BRIC standing

[Jit]

India never existed in history.

It is a British creation, out of the many independent kingdoms of the subcontinent.

1) only sort of; in reality current India was pulled together post British rule - Sardar Patel and team convinced the kingdoms to come together (which is what annoys the hell out of Pakistanis because Kashmir joined Indian union)

2) India did exist as Bharat in history - simplest is to look up Maurya and Vijaynagara empires

3) Before that like China had 'emperors' at the centre ruling over provincial kingdoms, India too had 'Chakravartins' ruling over kingdoms, with the 'centre' shifting based on dynastic shifts and alliances.

 

[INDIC]

India's de facto national language is English.

China's national language is Standard Chinese (Mandarin).

But why should that come as a surprise to you? All of India's borders were drawn by the British, unless you think "MacMahon" is an Indian name.

We don't have a national language, you have no idea about India's language policy. BTW aren't you from Hongkong, isn't English too an official language of Hongkong(oh mi gaad, Pot calling the Kettle black). Here is the truth of Chinese national language.

BBC News - Beijing says 400 million Chinese cannot speak Mandarin

 

[INDIC]

Repeating your same old crap again. Are you a mentally unsound?

This source from anonymous letter in Taiwan, many of whom don't consider PRC as rightful China, but taiwan.
No CHinese uses the term, "barbarian" in 19th century.

Sun Yat Sun advocated Chinese nation idea, made up of all 5 major ethnic group.
Zhonghua minzu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There's no such term as Father of CHinese Nationalism. We are a old nation, don't confuse indian nationalism during British colonial.

So, he changed the attitude but it really show how Han Chinese have historically hated the Manchus people.

 

[Fattyacids]

word china is derived from cyna which is a sanskrit word. We gave you your identity

Sanskrit derived Cina from Qin dynasty. We call ourselves Zhongguo, Middle Kingdom.

The word India is coined by Persian, named after Indus river. Does it mean Persia gave you identity? Btw, Indus river is in Pakistan, not India.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

1) only sort of; in reality current India was pulled together post British rule - Sardar Patel and team convinced the kingdoms to come together (which is what annoys the hell out of Pakistanis because Kashmir joined Indian union)

2) India did exist as Bharat in history - simplest is to look up Maurya and Vijaynagara empires

3) Before that like China had 'emperors' at the centre ruling over provincial kingdoms, India too had 'Chakravartins' ruling over kingdoms, with the 'centre' shifting based on dynastic shifts and alliances.

It's different.

Since the Qin Dynasty 2000 years ago, all future dynasties claimed succession over this one, and thus the authority to rule the country of China (called the Middle Kingdom in Chinese). China during these times was controlled from a central authority, and even included a national bureaucracy, similar to modern nation-states.

India was never one country, ruled by one central authority. There was no succession from empire to empire. It was merely a geographical expression, to refer to the separate kingdoms of the subcontinent. Until the British came. That was when India was created.

 

[INDIC]

1) only sort of; in reality current India was pulled together post British rule - Sardar Patel and team convinced the kingdoms to come together (which is what annoys the hell out of Pakistanis because Kashmir joined Indian union)

2) India did exist as Bharat in history - simplest is to look up Maurya and Vijaynagara empires

3) Before that like China had 'emperors' at the centre ruling over provincial kingdoms, India too had 'Chakravartins' ruling over kingdoms, with the 'centre' shifting based on dynastic shifts and alliances.

Sir, you are a new member, so let me tell you in advance they won't listen to you.

 

[INDIC]

Sanskrit derived Cina from Qin dynasty. It's our own word. China is a Portuguese word, derived from Qin dynasty. We call ourselves Zhongguo

The word India is coined by Persian, named after Indus river. Does it mean Persia gave you identity? Btw, Indus river is in Pakistan, not India.

Did China come from the name of the same king Qin Shi Huang.

 

[Jit]

Repeating your same old crap again. Are you a mentally unsound?

This source from anonymous letter in Taiwan, many of whom don't consider PRC as rightful China, but taiwan.
No CHinese uses the term, "barbarian" in 19th century.

Sun Yat Sun advocated Chinese nation idea, made up of all 5 major ethnic group.
Zhonghua minzu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There's no such term as Father of CHinese Nationalism. We are a old nation, don't confuse indian nationalism during British colonial.

really? Sun YAt Sun's party was called what? Nationalist party wasn't it?

 

[Shark2]

India's de facto national language is English.

China's national language is Standard Chinese (Mandarin).

But why should that come as a surprise to you? All of India's borders were drawn by the British, unless you think "MacMahon" is an Indian name.

China was created by the British and the Japanese.
At first the British defeated the foreign Qing Kingdom in the Opium war and later the Japanese invaded
China and weakened the Qing Kingdom. And its only because of the British and Japanese that the Han
people were able to free themselves from the foreign Qing rule.

 

[Yogijaat]

Before that like China had 'emperors' at the centre ruling over provincial kingdoms, India too had 'Chakravartins' ruling over kingdoms, with the 'centre' shifting based on dynastic shifts and alliances.

china and India are different. Mauryans ruled up to afghanistan while native chinese were never been able to rule the entire present day china. "China" like present one only existed during qing dynasty and yuan dynasty both of them were foreign to china. They were like mughals of India.

 

[Genesis]

China was created by the British and the Japanese.
At first the British defeated the foreign Qing Kingdom in the Opium war and later the Japanese invaded
China and weakened the Qing Kingdom. And its only because of the British and Japanese that the Han
people were able to free themselves from the foreign Qing rule.

lol, you need to write a book, I mean read a book.

 

[INDIC]

It's different.

Since the Qin Dynasty 2000 years ago, all future dynasties claimed succession over this one, and thus the authority to rule the country of China (called the Middle Kingdom in Chinese). China during these times was controlled from a central authority, and even included a national bureaucracy, similar to modern nation-states.

India was never one country, ruled by one central authority. There was no succession from empire to empire. It was merely a geographical expression, to refer to the separate kingdoms of the subcontinent. Until the British came. That was when India was created.

Really, Tell me honestly.
1. Was China continuously united since 221BC.
2. Was China comprised of same territory
3. Did non-Han ethnicities consider themselves belonging to the common Chinese civilization.
4. When did Southern China became Han Chinese majority.

Historical united country.

 

[Genesis]

Did China come from the name of the same king Qin Shi Huang.

Qin dynasty was the first emperor but not the first ruler of China.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Really, Tell me honestly.
1. Was China continuously united since 221BC.
2. Was China comprised of same territory
3. Did non-Han ethnicities consider themselves belonging to the common civilization.
4. When did Southern China became Han Chinese majority.

Historical united country.

As you know, after hundreds of years of unity under a particular dynasty, that dynasty will eventually fall. And thus the nation will be broken for a short period of time.

However, the winner of the ensuing civil war will become the next dynasty, and claim succession from the previous one, including the right to rule the country of China.

India was just thrown together by the British, that's why you have no natural demographic majority, like most natural countries. Your government system was just a copy and paste job from the British. That's what succession is to you.

 

[Fattyacids]

So, he changed the attitude but it really show how Han Chinese have historically hated the Manchus people.

Why would Chinese hate Manchu? The imperial court and troops are run by Chinese. Manchu officials and emperor don't even speak Manchu by 17th century. All speak Chinese.

Sun Yat Sun era was in 19th century, 200 years later. Why would chinese hate manchu?