India confirms order for IAF's Rafale deal with France

[Bharat_Bhakt]

How about f15. you guys are managed to get f16 from uncle Sam,I think f15 also can be procured.

i may be wrong but saudis have asked for 72 rafales i just might be that saudis donate them to Pakistan if Pakistan agrees to saudi demands who knows .

 

[Manidabest]

How about f15. you guys are managed to get f16 from uncle Sam,I think f15 also can be procured.

f15 nope i think we should go for J11D and concentrate on fifth generation fighter J31

 

[#hydra#]

f15 nope i think we should go for J11D and concentrate on fifth generation fighter J31

F15 is the most deadly non 5th gen bird available today.

 

[Ankit Kumar]

nice concept but thing is 36 rafles is the initial french built order do you really thing IAF will be contended with that and these nagociations going on for so long are for just 36 rafales and that too fully french built if you think so i rest my case but dont forget we have jaguars,mirage2000's, Su-30MKI's & Mig29s for some purpose .

Yes no problem with that. I know 100 Tejas mk1a and 80+ Rafales will at least come. What's my concern is the time frame. About 5 years down the line we will be severely short of aircrafts while the stated numbers won't come before 2022.

My concern is to fill that gap, and I find the best way to do it is I two ways
1. Either but 2nd hand mirage 2000s from France or Greece.
2. Or buy new Mig29s from Russia. (They can come fast as we can also utilise the Mig29K factory of Russia which will likely have no work after 2016 when it delivers the 24 Mig29Ks to Russia.

 

[Manidabest]

F15 is the most deadly non 5th gen bird available today.

but now at this stage Pakistan should not buy any more weapons from uncle sam with more strings attached ...simple
Chinese are better and we understand each other very well...

 

[Mav3rick]

i may be wrong but saudis have asked for 72 rafales i just might be that saudis donate them to Pakistan if Pakistan agrees to saudi demands who knows .

First of all that cannot happen under transfer agreements of Military Equipment. Secondly, if that was just a case of ordering equipment for donation to Pakistan, Pakistan would have been consulted and would most likely have opted for additional F-16's (Block 60+) instead of Rafael. PAF would most likely get over 100 F-16's in the same cost and would hardly require any additional overheads such as training/maintenance etc.

Basically, it ain't gonna happen.

 

[thesolar65]

This would not be limited to 36 Fighters.

@Abingdonboy

Will not be limited for sure or why do you think though the international oil prices have come down, retail prices are some what same. The Govt is moping up more funds by way of increasing production tax.!!

@egodoc222

 

[#hydra#]

but now at this stage Pakistan should not buy any more weapons from uncle sam with more strings attached ...simple
Chinese are better and we understand each other very well...

Do you think that those Chinese version of su27 have any chance against Indian mki?

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Confirmed for the 100th time. This is getting seriously boring now.

 

[Manidabest]

well J11D is an upgraded variant of J11 and it is rumoured that it is with stealth coating and more advanced technology based on more like Su30 ...so if we get our hands on them then it is good... and if Pakistan lobbies Russian through Chinese then we may get our hands on SU35 but lets see...and hope for better

 

[egodoc222]

Will not be limited for sure or why do you think though the international oil prices have come down, retail prices are some what same. The Govt is moping up more funds by way of increasing production tax.!!

@egodoc222

Exactly....I love that the government is being pragmatic than populist with its plans for the economy!! Government has been jacking up the taxes so that they can fill up their kitty....
And use them once they have a credible majority in rajyasabha! And pass critical bills!!

 

[zambino]

Some members still thinks that 36 is the final number. :-D Likh lo iaf will get 189 rafales.

 

[cerberus]

how many of ur MKI are crashing and going to retire once u receive ur 36 rafale and all the systems u r upgrading ??

6 since 17 years of service even Eurofighter has same rate of crashes

Don't let me quote plaaf crashing rate where they crash 3 J-10 in single year

 

[Manidabest]

6 since 17 years of service even Eurofighter has same rate of crashes

Don't let me quote plaaf crashing rate where they crash 3 J-10 in single year

we r not looking to buy j10 infact we have cancelled them

talk about the fighters that u have....diverting the topic to plaaf or eurofighter wont help

 

[cerberus]

we r not looking to buy j10 infact we have cancelled them

talk about the fighters that u have....diverting the topic to plaaf or eurofighter wont help

yeah Likely I Said about MKI the Pointed Out Fact is just 6 Aircraft Loss in Crash in 17 years of Service its Good Record than Equals to AF in South Asia