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India cannot stay neutral towards Iran: Shimon Peres

And with second largest shia population (Pakistan).. and better ties between Iran and Pak... i.e IP pipeline,setting up refineries,cultural exchanges etc... i doubt Iran will help india in destablising Pakistan... in the past they have already helped Pakistan ... even during wars.

India has had cultural links with Persia dating back thousands of years..the relations dates back to prehistoric times.

Embassy of India, Tehran
 
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Again pointless............Big Bad China lies between Russia and India........we need each other and that ENSURES good behaviour and claims of friendship :D
 
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India has had cultural links with Persia dating back thousands of years..the relations dates back to prehistoric times.

Embassy of India, Tehran

Yes and Modern day Pakistan has been a part of persian empires... and been a "Real" neighbour since thousands of years... and shares ethnic,cultural and religious similiarities... any doubts? :lol:
 
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Yes and Modern day Pakistan has been a part of persian empires... and been a "Real" neighbour since thousands of years... and shares ethnic,cultural and religious similiarities... any doubts? :lol:

The fact is there was nothing called Pakistan those thousands of years back, Pakistan is a new entity, the real history is related to India not to the pseudo phenomena called Pakistan that was created by Jinnah in the 1940's.

As for Persian travellers to India check out this account

Abdur Razzaq (1443-1444 A. D.): He was a Persian traveller who came to India and stayed at the court of the Zamorin at Calicut. He has given a vivid account of the Vijayanagar empire, especially of the city.He describes the wealth and luxurious life of the king and the nobles.
 
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The fact is there was nothing called Pakistan those thousands of years back, Pakistan is a new entity, the real history is related to India not to the pseudo phenomena called Pakistan.

There was never a united country called "india" apart from the british rule or the modern day india...it was always a bunch of kingdoms fighting eachothers.......:lol: .... while modern day Pakistan has always been seperate from india...
 
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There was never a united country called "india" apart from the british rule or the modern day india...it was always a bunch of kingdoms fighting eachothers.......:lol: .... while modern day Pakistan has always been seperate from india...

There's only something called modern day Pakistan and nothing else beyond that.

As for India and most of the princely states - the whole region was under an influence and culture that was termed Indian - as the rest of the world that was divided by various entities, but the collective whole was called India. It's difficult to explain to someone who doesn't have a history which is not more than 65 years old. Persian and Indian traders and travelers have been traveling across for thousands of years.
 
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By mentioning about India's problems with NUCLEAR CAPACITIES, Shimon Peres is actually making a veiled threat to India that Israel could make things worst for India in that department. Actually he could considering Israel's hold on US Congress.
 
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I think people often forget 'Ancient India does not equal the Republic of India' ! :unsure:

The former was a Subcontinent of disjointed Kingdoms & personal Fiefdoms while the latter is a 'new entity' that was born on the 15th of June,'47 alongside the pseudo phenomena called Pakistan that was carved out of the bosom of a British India giving birth to an equally pseudo phenomena called India. Melding the both into one package is either naivete at its best or intellectual dishonesty at its very worst.
 
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I think people often forget 'Ancient India does not equal the Republic of India' ! :unsure:

The former was a Subcontinent of disjointed Kingdoms & personal Fiefdoms while the latter is a 'new entity' that was born on the 15th of June,'47 alongside the pseudo phenomena called Pakistan. Melding the both into one package is either naivete at its best or intellectual dishonesty at its very worst.

But then again saying that there was nothing called India in pre history is the most dumbest thing that I have ever heard from Pakistanis.

There was nothing called Pakistan - is more of a statement that can be understood because there was nothing called Pakistan before 1947 - it's an artificial creation.
 
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But then again saying that there was nothing called India in pre history is the most dumbest thing that I have ever heard from Pakistanis.

It is even more ludicrous to suggest that Ancient India & the Republic of India enjoy a continuity of sorts that is denied to others especially in this context where Pakistan is completely ignored at the expense of the Ancient History of Pakistan & the mere fact that Pakistan's 65 year old existence does not wish away Baluchistan's, Sindh's, Punjab's & Khyber-Pukhtookhwa's 5000 year old existence & everything that comes with it, anymore than one could wish away India's association as a geographical whole that has gained historical currency despite it being rarely united as one country throughout its 5000+ history.

There was nothing called Pakistan - is more of a statement that can be understood.

It is a statement that can be understood were it to be listened at with drums of jingoism being played in the background; Pakistan is a new chapter in our existence...an existence that has spanned thousands of years & has given the world some of the oldest civilizations known to mankind.
 
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Generally Indian population is neutral towards Iran, but a large segment of our population is Pro-Israeli and Pro-Jewish. So it's natural for Israel to have a leverage in Indian decision making.

But this present status-quo is desirable.
 
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It is even more ludicrous to suggest that Ancient India & the Republic of India enjoy a continuity of sorts that is denied to others especially in this context where Pakistan is completely ignored at the expense of the Ancient History of Pakistan & the mere fact that Pakistan's 65 year old existence does not wish away Baluchistan's, Sindh's, Punjab's & Khyber-Pukhtookhwa's 5000 year old existence & everything that comes with it, anymore than one could wish away India's association as a geographical whole that has gained historical currency despite it being rarely united as one country throughout its 5000+ history.



It is a statement that can be understood were it to be listened at with drums of jingoism being played in the background; Pakistan is a new chapter in our existence...an existence that has spanned thousands of years & has given the world some of the oldest civilizations known to mankind.

This is as ludicrous as anything can get, those areas you mentioned were associated with ancient India not Pakistan in pre history and was ruled by Indian overlords and kings. KP was an Afghan area which historically is associated with Afghan people,
numerous invasions and history in the regions that come under Pakistan today are either associated historically to India or to Afghanistan.

The oldest civilizations given to mankind are associated with India not to the erstwhile Pakistan. Come up with one reference of Pakistan as an entity of not less than 75 years back.
 
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This is as ludicrous as anything can get, those areas you mentioned were associated with ancient India not Pakistan in pre history and was ruled by Indian overlords and kings. KP was an Afghan area which historically is associated with Afghan people,
numerous invasions and history in the regions that come under Pakistan today are either associated historically to India or to Afghanistan.

The oldest civilizations given to mankind are associated with India not to the erstwhile Pakistan. Come up with one reference of Pakistan as an entity of not more than 75 years back.

Ancient India is not the same as the Republic of India ! At any rate presenting Ancient India as a geographically, politically or even culturally unifying single entity is historically erroneous irrespective of whether it comes across as being ludicrous to you or not for the brutal truth is that India for most of her life has been little more than a Subcontinent of different Kingdoms fighting it out with each other. The fact that the Republic of India shares its namesake with the Indian Subcontinent of ages past does not make it the inheritors of its History at the expense of all other country's in its vicinity that were born on the same day or near about the equally pseudo phenomena called the 'Republic of India' or at that time the 'Dominion of India'.

The oldest civilizations & those areas are associated with the people who inhabit these areas & their descendents call themselves Pakistanis not Indians.
 
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