India appears ambivalent about role as U.S. strategy pivots toward Asia

[Parul]

If US is looking to replace Pakistan then good luck, you will never find the kind of brown nose a$$ licker leadership anywhere in the Universe as we can provide you. These are the same people who sold their brothers and mother to earn loyalty from british and in turn they got huge tract of lands which they use to control poor people who vote them in the office so they can wag their tail for the next available master. So listen US, we have genetic haramis on the east of border with India come and throw a bone to these haramis and they will sell out anything for your pleasure. But you know it, you are just testing Indians??

Yes, we sold Pakistan to US That is why US of A Keeps Droning Pakistani's ....Further, Pakistani's have also sold them self that is why they explode other people with them every other day in different cities of Pakistan. As your country is sold to US & A, Baluchistan wants to get Liberated....Want me to post more things You Better watch your Language......HARA**

 

[arp2041]

1.China:After singing Bhai-Bhai with china for a decade India ditched it with its Forward policy

Yes, we sang Bhai-Bhai & i agree to forward policy, but even before that, it was China that attacked Indian territory of Aksai Chin, even when India had acknowledged Tibet as part of China, also China wanted Arunachal, so forward policy was a pre-emptive strike (but resulted in disaster).

2.Iran:Voting against it at IAEA on American insistence just to get civil nuke deal.Natwar singh was shown the door coz he was great iran supporter over usa.

So, what did u want, another nuclear power in the vicinity?? aren't China & Pakistan enough?? Yes, Iran is a friend, but do u want that ur friends should take the wrong path??

3.Russia for usa...Reslt of which is infront of all with russia seeking to improve relations with pak.

India has never traded Russia for USA or any other, still Russia is the biggest defence partner of India. If Russia is good friend, so does that force India to buy sub-standard weaponry & threaten our security?? Can any person in it's sane mind buy mig-35 (which Russia itself is not buying) when u have got Rafale??

4. Libya :After bashing all west india went along and voted for west's resolution against Libya.

Check ur facts, India din't went along, it abstained from voting, same as what Russia & China did.

Anything else??

 

[INDIC]

Capitulation of india's so called "independent" foreign policy did happen under usa pressure.Thats the main point of the argument.

Humne wahi kiya jo hamare liye thik tha.

 

[mfreak]

Capitulation of india's so called "independent" foreign policy did happen under usa pressure.Thats the main point of the argument.

India's or any other country's foreign policy is not based on a "We wanna do this" attitude. We have to take into consideration all factors and manipulate our way through international politics.

That is what we did. We saw that the US was lobbying Indian support, and we saw no harm in voting against Iran. This is not siding with anyone, or anything capitulating. If its independent foreign policy capitulated, then India wouldnt have rejected US sanctions on Iran. But India did, because it benefited us.

 

[Ticker]

Then next time don't Rant....

I will......

 

[Ticker]

....and this is the voice of experience from Pakistan of having run such a brilliant foreign policy that your country is now under daily attack from its "ally"....? Excuse us if we take such self-serving assertions with a pinch of salt !


Our interests and those of the United States are similar in some cases and where there is overlap of interests, we will cooperate. Where they differ, we will manage. India is not Pakistan to have another country purchase wholesale "its interests" for "X" amount of money.

India does not have the capability to resist the US demands much longer. After all it has to feed over 500 million living below the poverty line and therefore, it needs to sustain its economic interaction with the US.

 

[Parul]

Self Deleted....

 

[ajtr]

India does not have the capability to resist the US demands much longer. After all it has to feed over 500 million living below the poverty line and therefore, it needs to sustain its economic interaction with the US.

India never had capacity to resist USA it was just jumping by keeping USSSR behind during cold war .As soon as USSR went down India started changing its master from Russia to usa.

 

[karan.1970]

Please enlighten us when did INDIA ditch anybody ???

For some Pakistanis (and some newly converted to Pakistani status Pakistanis ), life exists in binary.. Either you allow a country full control over your nation (like Pakistan allowed America earlier and now doing the same with China), or you swear till death animosity with that nation (like Pakistan's relationship with India or Israel)... They kind of miss the whole shindig of diplomatic gradient in between... Hence the comment from ajtr

 

[Ticker]

Self Deleted....

It was an explanative response to ban galore's point.

 

[karan.1970]

India never had capacity to resist USA it was just jumping by keeping USSSR behind during cold war .As soon as USSR went down India started changing its master from Russia to usa.

Funny talk about masters coming from a Pakistani

 

[ajtr]

Yes, we sang Bhai-Bhai & i agree to forward policy, but even before that, it was China that attacked Indian territory of Aksai Chin, even when India had acknowledged Tibet as part of China, also China wanted Arunachal, so forward policy was a pre-emptive strike (but resulted in disaster).

Nope it was India which initiated the attack with its forward policy PRC just reacted to india's attack and paid you in kind.

So, what did u want, another nuclear power in the vicinity?? aren't China & Pakistan enough?? Yes, Iran is a friend, but do u want that ur friends should take the wrong path??

Who are you or any other nation to decide that iran shouldn't have bomb.if you can have it israel can have it so too iran can.

India has never traded Russia for USA or any other, still Russia is the biggest defence partner of India. If Russia is good friend, so does that force India to buy sub-standard weaponry & threaten our security?? Can any person in it's sane mind buy mig-35 (which Russia itself is not buying) when u have got Rafale??

Its all visible even to naked eyes.that why Russia is making overtures to Pakistan after india jumped on usa bandwagon.

Check ur facts, India din't went along, it abstained from voting, same as what Russia & China did.

Anything else??

replace Libya with Syria and re-read it.btw abstaining is like silent vote.

 

[INDIC]

India never had capacity to resist USA.

Because USA is a superpower, kehte hain na, josh mein hosh khona. We have so many examples around.

 

[ajtr]

India's or any other country's foreign policy is not based on a "We wanna do this" attitude. We have to take into consideration all factors and manipulate our way through international politics.

manipulate under threat and then capitulate.

That is what we did. We saw that the US was lobbying Indian support, and we saw no harm in voting against Iran. This is not siding with anyone, or anything capitulating. If its independent foreign policy capitulated, then India wouldnt have rejected US sanctions on Iran. But India did, because it benefited us.

yes that what you did ie you capitulated.rest all talks of independent policy etc is for domestic janta.

Humne wahi kiya jo hamare liye thik tha.

yes liked being capitulated so you did....then why are you all playing this nonsense tune of loaded words like "independent" foreign policy etc.

 

[Contrarian]

India's capitulation under USA pressure to vote against Iran at IAEA.

That was the price for the Nuke deal.

Cost-Benefit analysis: India could have not taken the nuke deal and voted for Iran.
However, nuke deal is much more beneficial for India and the price to pay was this vote along with IPI pipeline.

Capitulation would be when for no quid pro quo, India agrees to US demands, like how Pakistan does.