India and Pakistan need to reunite like Germany and Vietnam: Markandey Katju

[kingQamaR]

Indians never stop with there silly propaganda crap. Our make up of Pakistan state now and then 1947 you will find Pakistan Moslems always lived on these lands that became Pakistan it always existed here these were Moslem lands. With there own cultures and languages. None Indian.

Truth was it was Indian Muslims who arrived and settled on these lands and are a tiny percentage of our population. People deliberately over look this information. Making Indian Muslims coming to Pakistan does not make us all Indians.

Your natural Union is with the Bangladesh country not ours. Indian Muslims are no concern of Pakistan

 

[Chhatrapati]

EXACTLY.......I was in Pakistan last month. So I am fully aware of the ground reality there. In fact Pakistan has probably never been better. So now please post the links to the evidence of what you said earlier. If not then you are lying just like all other indians.

Also, when did the americans and South Koreans gain a burning desire and publicly state that they want to wipe out North Korea and it's people?.........

Ground realities. More tangent replies

 

[takeiteasy]

Both Hindu and Muslim wants religious domination. Brahminism for uppercaste Hindus and Islamism for Muslims. No encouragement for secularism, scientific temper, some liberalism..Nope. One wants to lynch Muslims and Christians for cows and their love for Golwalkar's Hindu rashtra while, the other craves for establishing Ummah and prophecies. They see lesser religious and progressive as enemies.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Still 20 years away but the plan, in that order, is to -

1) Get you guys reunited

2) Move to Kurdistan

3) Start a revolution in Iran

Every life should have a higher purpose where you give back and get remembered for making a difference.

Cheers, Doc

1. Same border? Not gonna happen but good relation somewhere in the future where people can travel across the borders maybe some day.
2. Good luck in Kurdistan
3. You can't start a revolution in Iran if you can't speak farsi. I would suggest start learning farsi now. Oh and most Iranians consider you Indian, they would deport your *** back to India. You have more chance of being welcomed in Pakistan then in Iran.

Iranians like Indians.

Indians never stop with there silly propaganda crap. Our make up of Pakistan state now and then 1947 you will find Pakistan Moslems always lived on these lands that became Pakistan it always existed here these were Moslem lands. With there own cultures and languages. None Indian.

Truth was it was Indian Muslims who arrived and settled on these lands and are a tiny percentage of our population. People deliberately over look this information. Making Indian Muslims coming to Pakistan does not make us all Indians.

Your natural Union is with the Bangladesh country not ours. Indian Muslims are no concern of Pakistan

I will never understand why Pakistanis are so desperate to lump us with Bangladesh, even though from a purely linguistic and ethnic standpoint, we have more in common with you guys.

 

[Nilgiri]

Consider, for a moment, a concept of urbanisation and civilisation built around eight river basins:

Was a real treat to read and perfectly summarized. Its actually a topic (rivers being the true tribal cultural hearth boundaries etc) that is a deep interest of mine.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Was a real treat to read and perfectly summarized. Its actually a topic (rivers being the true tribal cultural hearth boundaries etc) that is a deep interest of mine.

There was a horrible mistake in it; it should have been 'nine' river basins! Thank heavens you did not spot the glaring error. And from someone living where I am!!!

 

[kingQamaR]

Iranians like Indians.


I will never understand why Pakistanis are so desperate to lump us with Bangladesh, even though from a purely linguistic and ethnic standpoint, we have more in common with you guys.

It’s not our fault you don’t understand the make up of our Pakistan.

Put this blame on your own governments and media houses. For brainwashing you of these facts

There are vast areas in rest of Pakistan who have Zero connection with you Indians.



These people share nothing in common with your culture

They have a real historical , cultural connection to Iranians, afghanis Central Asia. Up to 80 million Pakistanis have nothing to do with your India

I’m sure our brother Punjabi’s and Sindhis would strongly disagree they are like you.

British made artificial lines to your Indian borders. Inflating it larger than it should have been under there rule. You were too weak to do it yourself

We are Pakistanis now. West Pakistan was never incorporated really into British raj lol. It was always ungovernable by the brits

Your Delhi was there home India there Raj

Wish you India Bangladesh and Lanka with your Union

You have hundreds of millions Indians sorry but living in open sewers. Instead they want to talk about us Pakistanis.

Your government treats you Indians as stupid and ignorant.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

It’s not our fault you don’t understand the make up of our Pakistan.

Put the blame on your own governments and media houses. For brainwashing you of these facts

There are vast areas in rest of Pakistan who have Zero connection with you Indians.



These people share nothing in common with your culture

They have a real historical , cultural connection to Iranians, afghanis Central Asia. Up to 80 million Pakistanis have nothing to do with your India

I’m sure our brother Punjabi’s and Sindhis would strongly disagree they are like you.

British made artificial lines to your Indian borders. Inflating it larger than it should have been under there rule. You were too weak to do it yourself

We are Pakistanis now. West Pakistan was never incorporated really into British raj lol. It was always ungovernable by the brits

Your Delhi was there home India there Raj

Wish you India Bangladesh and Lanka with your Union

You have hundreds of millions Indians sorry but living in open sewers. Instead they want to talk about us Pakistanis.

Your government treats you Indians as stupid and ignorant.

When did I say anything bad about Pakistan? I simply pointed out that india shares more similarities with Pakistan than it does with Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. Which is a cat. Yes there are groups in Pakistan that have nothing to do with Indians and groups in India that have nothing to do with Pakistan, but those groups are minorities. What part of that is too hard for you to understand? If you disagree, maybe you should ask the Lankans and Bdeshis here. And no, I never said Indians and Pakistanis are the same/

And the rest of your post was nothing but off topic, butthurt drivel. it is pretty rich of you to criticize our "slum culture" when you guys rank 20 spots beow us in HDI


And I am sorry that the evil Inidans took thousands of kilometers of land that should have gone to you, leaving you with what Jinnah called a "moth eaten Pakistan." But then again, you guys have been conquered and humiliated by virtually every power to cross Sousth Asia, wheras India was never ruled by a forign power until 1000 BC. Even then, most of India was never conquered, whereas all of Pakistan was.

You should be angry at your government and Madrassah for brainwashing you.

 

[GumNaam]

man, I should be in advertising...

When did I say anything bad about Pakistan? I simply pointed out that india shares more similarities with Pakistan than it does with Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. Which is a cat. Yes there are groups in Pakistan that have nothing to do with Indians and groups in India that have nothing to do with Pakistan, but those groups are minorities. What part of that is too hard for you to understand? If you disagree, maybe you should ask the Lankans and Bdeshis here. And no, I never said Indians and Pakistanis are the same/

And the rest of your post was nothing but off topic, butthurt drivel. it is pretty rich of you to criticize our "slum culture" when you guys rank 20 spots beow us in HDI


And I am sorry that the evil Inidans took thousands of kilometers of land that should have gone to you, leaving you with what Jinnah called a "moth eaten Pakistan." But then again, you guys have been conquered and humiliated by virtually every power to cross Sousth Asia, wheras India was never ruled by a forign power until 1000 BC. Even then, most of India was never conquered, whereas all of Pakistan was.

You should be angry at your government and Madrassah for brainwashing you.

kia aap kay bunghole may Pakistan nay mirchiyaan lagayeen hain?

kia aap kay bunghole ko qaraar nahi hay?

kia aap ka bunghole pharrak raha hay?

kia aap apnay pichvaarr pay nahi baith sak tay hein?

aayay...
daikhiyay...
suniyay...
aap kay shri pradhan monkey modi aap say kia pooch rahey hein...

ji haan, burnol...
MADE IN CHINA VALA BURNOL!
modi's bunghole tested.
modi's bunghole approved.
modi's bunghole recommended.

jo aram aap kay modi ji kay bunghole ko aya hay,
wohi aram ab aap kay bunghole ko bhi aa sakta hay.

yeh lee jiyay, MADE IN CHINA wala burnol.
apnay sulag tay huay bunghole pay lagayay
aur modi ki tarha aram paaiyay...

yaad rakhiyay, MADE IN CHINA wala burnol
modi ji kay bunghole kay liyay...aap kay bunghole kay liyay.

aik burnole ki tube khareediyay, saat may Pakistani ungla bilkul muft!!!

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

When did I say anything bad about Pakistan? I simply pointed out that india shares more similarities with Pakistan than it does with Bangladesh and Sri Lanka. Which is a cat. Yes there are groups in Pakistan that have nothing to do with Indians and groups in India that have nothing to do with Pakistan, but those groups are minorities. What part of that is too hard for you to understand? If you disagree, maybe you should ask the Lankans and Bdeshis here. And no, I never said Indians and Pakistanis are the same/

And the rest of your post was nothing but off topic, butthurt drivel. it is pretty rich of you to criticize our "slum culture" when you guys rank 20 spots beow us in HDI


And I am sorry that the evil Inidans took thousands of kilometers of land that should have gone to you, leaving you with what Jinnah called a "moth eaten Pakistan." But then again, you guys have been conquered and humiliated by virtually every power to cross Sousth Asia, wheras India was never ruled by a forign power until 1000 BC. Even then, most of India was never conquered, whereas all of Pakistan was.

You should be angry at your government and Madrassah for brainwashing you.

Pakhtoons are no minorities we are everywhere in Pakistan and modern pakistani culture is heavily influenced by us. We have nothing to do with you. The only people you can say Indians have something in common would be punjabis but even then they are very different. Nice try, trying to associate with us, it was cute

man, I should be in advertising...


kia aap kay bunghole may Pakistan nay mirchiyaan lagayeen hain?

kia aap kay bunghole ko qaraar nahi hay?

kia aap ka bunghole pharrak raha hay?

kia aap apnay pichvaarr pay nahi baith sak tay hein?

aayay...
daikhiyay...
suniyay...
aap kay shri pradhan monkey modi aap say kia pooch rahey hein...
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ji haan, burnol...
MADE IN CHINA VALA BURNOL!
modi's bunghole tested.
modi's bunghole approved.
modi's bunghole recommended.

jo aram aap kay modi ji kay bunghole ko aya hay,
wohi aram ab aap kay bunghole ko bhi aa sakta hay.

yeh lee jiyay, MADE IN CHINA wala burnol.
apnay sulag tay huay bunghole pay lagayay
aur modi ki tarha aram paaiyay...

yaad rakhiyay, MADE IN CHINA wala burnol
modi ji kay bunghole kay liyay...aap kay bunghole kay liyay.

aik burnole ki tube khareediyay, saat may Pakistani ungla bilkul muft!!!

Dont feed him, all he wants is your or any Pakistanis attention. These people live on the idea of us giving them some sort of attention.

 

[MultaniGuy]

SOURCE : The Siasat Daily

Former Judge, Supreme Court of India Markandey Katju said that Aman ki Asha is living in a fool’s paradise and deceiving people. The campaign launched jointly by two large media houses, the Jang Group of Pakistan and the Times of India Group of India aims at improving relations between India and Pakistan, and help secure peace in the region. It runs a portal amankiasha.com. Former judge twitted, ‘Aman ki Asha is living in a fool’s paradise and deceiving people.’

In his article written for Pakistani Stories, Katju writes, “While ostensibly its (Aman ki Asha) aim seems laudable, and indeed it has done some good work by promoting some people to people contact between Indians and Pakistanis, which helps to some extent in dispelling the notion that people living on the other side of the border are devils, nevertheless, in my opinion, its basic approach is flawed, and in fact it serves to deceive people.”

He said “India and Pakistan (and Bangladesh) are really one country, sharing the same culture, and were one since Mughal times. Partition in 1947 was a historical British swindle, on the basis of the bogus two nation theory ( that Hindus and Muslims are two separate nations ), which was the culmination of the nefarious British divide and rule policy of making Hindus and Muslims fight each other.” He added, “Pakistan is a fake, artificial country.”

Stressing the need to reunite India and Pakistan, Katju asserted, “It is really part of India, only temporarily separated, but is bound to be reunited with it, like West and East Germany or North and South Vietnam (though that will take time because those who divided us will not let us easily reunite.)

No that's okay, we don't want to be with India.

We are Pakistanis thank you very much.

 

[GumNaam]

Pakhtoons are no minorities we are everywhere in Pakistan and modern pakistani culture is heavily influenced by us. We have nothing to do with you. The only people you can say Indians have something in common would be punjabis but even then they are very different. Nice try, trying to associate with us, it was cute


Dont feed him, all he wants is your or any Pakistanis attention. These people live on the idea of us giving them some sort of attention.

Agreed on both but you know me, I trolling the trolls.

And yes, almost all Pakistanis have pathan blood one way or another including me from my mother's side.

 

[Joe Shearer]

@waz @Irfan Baloch @Jungibaaz @Slav Defence can you plz close this thread which is filled with posts of Pakistanis saying impossible don't want to be with sanghis, one set of Indians saying its inevitable and they pakistanis will have to like it and majority calling Pakistan an artificial construct that should not exist and a "shit hole" including katju himself... Long story short absolutely worthless discussion.

If nothing else then clean it up a bit.


Oh by the way just looking below.. this has been going on since 2013..

Once this thread is closed, the level of discourse will go up 50 to 60%.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Agreed on both but you know me, I trolling the trolls.

And yes, almost all Pakistanis have pathan blood one way or another including me from my mother's side.

Time to learn that pakhto, rowrha

Once this thread is closed, the level of discourse will go up 50 to 60%.

Did you vote in my mango and kinnow trend? Should help me with the school lunch article/trend.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Pakhtoons are no minorities we are everywhere in Pakistan and modern pakistani culture is heavily influenced by us. We have nothing to do with you. The only people you can say Indians have something in common would be punjabis but even then they are very different. Nice try, trying to associate with us, it was cute


Dont feed him, all he wants is your or any Pakistanis attention. These people live on the idea of us giving them some sort of attention.

When did I ever say Indians and Pakistanis are exactly alike? I simply think it is funny how he thinks Indians are exactly like Lankans and Bdeshis but have nothing in common with Pakistanis. And it is not just Punjabis , India also has the largest populations of Rajputs, Jatts, and gujjars in the world. Not to mention that many tribes in Gujarat and Rajasthan(mainly in the Kutch, Saurashtra, and Marwar regins) are similar to some tribes in SIndh. And yes I was trolling that guy because he was obviously trolling himself. It looks like I got a pretty decent reaction out of him, so I was successful. Sorry about that, I do not usually troll.