Imran Khan's bullet proof air conditioned container for PTI's march

[Viper0011.]

The US is not a "funding organisation" to Pakistan. The US doesn't give aid to Pakistan out of goodwill, they give it for their geopolitical interests, like the (relatively) recent Afghanistan invasion and keeping the soviets away back in the Cold War. Not to mention that we (Pakistan) have lost more in the "war on terror" that the US dragged us in than what we have gained from their aid.

Imran Khan did not endager anyone's life, all he wants for is a peaceful protest for god's sake! If it was OK when Nawaz wanted it , why isn't it ok now? The only ones endangering lives are PML-N, by blocking cities and provoking Qadri's workers (by besieging Model Town). I, personally, am against Qadri's methods and all the crap he says in his speeches (such as : Khoon ka badla police ke khoon say etc) but in this case, he is right to be against the Ganja monarchy.

As for "why not engage in discussions" well, PTI has been doing that for over a year with no results.
IK's protest wont destroy our country. but Nawaz and Zardari and all the other corrupt assholes will, if they keep taking "bariyaan" at eating the country. Imran Khan doesn't want to wait any longer, and that's a good thing.

For every good thing PMLN brings to the country, they eat 10 times more than what they spend. The make metro busses and hand out laptops to keep people distracted from the real issues, and to show that he is "doing something". But guess what? They have had control over Punjab during Zarari's term, did anything improve? They were in power 2 times before, what did they do for the country?

1) You do know that I know how this works right? Since 2002 the US may be paying for its interest but many times, including the Earthquake, water flooding, etc the US helped as a friend. Heck, your government used to go to the US to get money to pay for the salaries of their employees. I don't think you want me to write more embarrassing details on here.

2) I've read, seen and again read his statements and comments. Plus the mullah Greeders too. Already many body bags have been sent to people's homes. More aren't needed. NO one listening to these two's language would believe that there won't be violence.

3) There is no deal between Zardari and NS. I know that. There is an understanding of running the political system independently and through civilians. Show me proof of this "Accord"? Unless someone's blind, its pretty obvious Zardari or PPP won't come to power for a long time. They don't have a good leader anymore.

4) I disagree with they eat 10 times. I almost got the contract to audit the Metro Bus project but it went to Transparency International. I have a vast network so I know what's up where and who's "Eating". Sharif's ate before, I am sure but this time around, they've changed. They want to do stuff for the country and leave a legacy. You shouldn't be pulling legs out of just hate.

5) If IK and mullah Greeder topple the gov't.....what'll happen? Anyone with a few million can go topple the gov't and it becomes a trend and country will break.

You guys aren't listening. You are about to walk into your enemy's best laid plans for the longest time in pipes. Breaking the system will break the country. If that's the goal....sure, have at it.

This newbie seems like a regular follower of the biggest trash forum called Siasat.pk , never visit that trash forum which is heaven of cultureless retards.

I figured. I've never seen so many people that are ready to destroy their country for an idiot who hasn't produced jack for the country!

 

[TankMan]

- Taliban will be back with vengeance supported by Afg and India. Watch my words. Your stretched too thin military won't know how to handle it. Trust me on what I am saying and give it a thought. These protests if turned violent and toppled the government, will start to break Pakistan.
- PPP isn't dead. What IK is doing, they can do too. Take Sindh and do this there and cut that down from the Federal. THAT is precisely what I am saying, you are providing so many new friends to your enemies if this happened here. Trust me on it, we'll be talking about it when it happens. Seen it WAY too many times in the recent history. You are about to pop up a new ethnic based identity in Pakistan that would break it apart. India and others will be pouring in $$$$ in amounts that you won't believe.
- The goal whatever it may be, will derail the system. That's what your enemies want right now. The visitor from Dubai may be getting paid by some of your enemies. Your enemy don't want Pakistan to become a stable country with prosperity and the Chinese partnership right on their borders. I think you are smart enough to know that??
- Clean system will only be build by the time next elections will happen (normally, not like this) and when IK and Shariff's will sit down and discuss how to make these fool proof the next time. All other options, take you guys straight into your enemy's long term strategy and you are falling like a fool in their hands.
- NS won this time too.....even if you minus the Ten seats....so why not work with him and save all this long term trouble and get the country to progress on the right track???

Aero man, I've fought with people trying to make the above points which no one wants to hear due to blind love for IK. Frankly speaking, you are about to get hit by a bus and I am warning you guys as a courtesy and out of care!

This isn't ethnic based at all. A lot, if not most of the IK supporters are punjabis. If we're talking about PPP toppling a hypothetical PTI govt, No one will support PPP if they start doing this type of stuff without a good reason. and even if they do manage a long march, PTI's gov't won't react like PMLN did, so there will be no violence.

I agree with you on the second point. The problem is that the current "status quo" (PMLN, PPP etc) won't allow a proper democratic system and will never let Pakistan develop unless they are stopped by someone (Like IK)

Next elections will be the same if the people responsible for rigging the 2013 elections are not prosecuted.

Then why was he so scared to investigate only 4 seats? That was PTI's demand, but they turned it down. Why? Because it would reveal that the whole election was rigged MASSIVELY. There were 30-50 THOUSAND bogus votes in some constituencies. Just google "bogus votes pakistan 2013" and you'll see what I'm talking about.

"57,642 bogus votes cast in NA-256 Karachi: NADRA" : Tribune.pk

ARACHI: A report regarding thumb print verification of votes cast at NA-256 constituency in Karachi released by the National Database Registration Authority (NADRA) revealed that 57,642 bogus votes cast during the May 11 elections, Express News reported on Monday.

Out of the 84,448 votes cast only 6,805 were verified.

Shortly after the NADRA report, the Election Commission of Pakistan issued a statement saying that the election tribunal will rule over the matter.

The NADRA report revealed that 5,893 votes were cast twice and 741 votes were not related to the area.

Moreover, there were 11,346 votes cast from 40 Computerised National Identity Cards.

Muttahida Quami Movement’s candidate Iqbal Muhammad Khan had won the elections in the constituency.

Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf’s candidate Zubair Khan challenged the victory and filed a petition.

The Nadra report has been presented to the election tribunal council and its copies will be given to the candidates.

Returning officer and presiding officers will be summoned in court.

A similar incident had happened earlier in the NA-258 constituency in Karachi in which a report regarding thumb print verification of votes released by NADRA revealed that that only 2,400 of the total votes cast were genuine. The report also said that at least 1, 400 of the voters had cast their votes twice.

PML-N’s candidate Abdul Hakim Baloch had won in this area with a total of 51,148 votes cast for him.

His victory was challenged by the Pakistan Peoples Party candidate Abdur Razzaq Raja.

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

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I figured. I've never seen so many people that are ready to destroy their country for an idiot who hasn't produced jack for the country!

That is the problem with pakistan, somehow we have such people in our country who celebrate anarchy and army rule in the country which pushes pakistan 20 years back everytime army intervenes. I personally oberved all the ills of military rule first time in my life during military regime of 1999-2007 , these were precious 8 wasted years of pakistan, it caused all the problems that pakistan is facing now such as insurgencies in balochistan, FATA etc and problems related to energy and unemployment crisis. But somehow we always have people like imran khan, sheikh rasheed, chaudhary brothers and this drama queen TUQ who pave the way for military intervention for their personal greed for power.

 

[TankMan]

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This newbie seems like a regular follower of the biggest trash forum called Siasat.pk , never visit that trash forum which is heaven of cultureless retards.
I figured. I've never seen so many people that are ready to destroy their country for an idiot who hasn't produced jack for the country!

Nope, just came across it reading about stuff, i think from this forum.

Imran Khan hasn't produced jack because he never got a chance. He did produce a world cup by the way, it might not be much but it's still something.

You haven't been to Pakistan, have you? Living with 18 hours of loadshedding in 40 degrees C temperature for a few days will definitely change your mind.

 

[rockstar08]

Take a gun into London or New York and point it to a cop.....you won't get to live after that second. It should be the SAME for Pakistan too. No one should be allowed to play with innocents lives, that's terrorism. So if people attacked police, than that's what happened. Sine that day, there were three incidents that I was made aware of where no policeman fired a bullet and the violent protestors hit, tortured and killed policemen along with civilians and a lot of property, plazas, buses, etc. What do you call that? You should hate EVERY politician who supports violence

first of all its pakistan . not london ... police is politicized here ..open secret .. how to do rate those gullu butts ?? shouting " Allah hu akber " and police following him ?? shooting 2 women ? how violent they were ?? i dont think they were carrying an ak-47 ?? a women with child ? shoot on face ?? that law and order , if my family was there , i would rather kill those bastard police man on spot ... anyone would do ... govt is there to protect not to kill ... if peoples go voilent its govt duty to disperse peoples with least causalities ...but in Pakistan its different , more death mean more " news "

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

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You haven't been to Pakistan, have you? Living with 18 hours of loadshedding in 40 degrees C temperature for a few days will definitely change your mind.

The illegal military regime of mushi badmash during 1999-2007 is responsible for the current energy crisis that Pakistan is facing today, this problem was put at back burner by mush badmash regime.

 

[Viper0011.]

This isn't ethnic based at all. A lot, if not most of the IK supporters are punjabis. If we're talking about PPP toppling a hypothetical PTI govt, No one will support PPP if they start doing this type of stuff without a good reason. and even if they do manage a long march, PTI's gov't won't react like PMLN did, so there will be no violence.

I agree with you on the second point. The problem is that the current "status quo" (PMLN, PPP etc) won't allow a proper democratic system and will never let Pakistan develop unless they are stopped by someone (Like IK)
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None of this helps nor it is justification of the violence that has been going on and that will about to go. The point is, say we agree there was rigging, everywhere in Pakistan there is something, it is Pakistan we are talking about. So give 10 seats....does IK win majority? NO.
Does that mean he should take to the streets and topple the gov't? NO. Does this mean anyone else won't do it? you think NO, but it's a new base and its very violent in nature. It'll repeat again.
This can be settled in a nicer and more democratic way. This isn't the first time elections have been rigged. Heck, a few years ago, the US elections at the president's level were said to have some component of foul play (Busch vs, Gore). I don't know its true or not but Gore congratulated Busch and the country moved on to a positive direction.
PLEASE DON"T give me that response that I am comparing America to Pakistan. I compared people. IK can do the SAME gesture and move on. This isn't that hard to do but it'll save a lot of time.

... govt is there to protect not to kill ... if peoples go voilent its govt duty to disperse peoples with least causalities ...but in Pakistan its different , more death mean more " news "

They tried to disburse people peacefully....what happened in Islamabad? You broke many police officers bones through torture and all. Then, you guys did that recently again, kidnapping police officers, torturing and killing officers, etc,etc. I've seen it all. Do that in the US or the UK, you'll see how they take away the responsible party to Gitmo. Common man, are you guys really this stupid or its just hate for NS and no love for your own country?

 

[Edevelop]

Few days ago Imran Khan was saying he is not scared of bullet.

wah wah kya U-Turn marliya.

 

[TankMan]

1) You do know that I know how this works right? Since 2002 the US may be paying for its interest but many times, including the Earthquake, water flooding, etc the US helped as a friend. Heck, your government used to go to the US to get money to pay for the salaries of their employees. I don't think you want me to write more embarrassing details on here.

2) I've read, seen and again read his statements and comments. Plus the mullah Greeders too. Already many body bags have been sent to people's homes. More aren't needed. NO one listening to these two's language would believe that there won't be violence.

3) There is no deal between Zardari and NS. I know that. There is an understanding of running the political system independently and through civilians. Show me proof of this "Accord"? Unless someone's blind, its pretty obvious Zardari or PPP won't come to power for a long time. They don't have a good leader anymore.

4) I disagree with they eat 10 times. I almost got the contract to audit the Metro Bus project but it went to Transparency International. I have a vast network so I know what's up where and who's "Eating". Sharif's ate before, I am sure but this time around, they've changed. They want to do stuff for the country and leave a legacy. You shouldn't be pulling legs out of just hate.

5) If IK and mullah Greeder topple the gov't.....what'll happen? Anyone with a few million can go topple the gov't and it becomes a trend and country will break.

You guys aren't listening. You are about to walk into your enemy's best laid plans for the longest time in pipes. Breaking the system will break the country. If that's the goal....sure, have at it.



I figured. I've never seen so many people that are ready to destroy their country for an idiot who hasn't produced jack for the country!

1) Pakistan has helped "as a friend" in many UN missions and stuff too. In international politics, this kind of stuff rarely has any significance. Yes, our government did beg a lot. Why do you think we protest against the govt?

2) I agree, there's no need for any more deaths. It's about time Nawaz comes to his senses and atleast stop the blockade of Lahore.

3)If not PPP, NS will find another "partner".

4)He wasted so much money with his stupid schemes (Sasti Roti scheme, for example) which haven't helped anyone. The legacy he wants is for his family to have money and power.

5) They wont just go and throw the government out of the window. PTI Demands elections and reforms in the electoral system. Did you miss all that ? IK Has spent hours clearly explaining his demands.

 

[rockstar08]

None of this helps nor it is justification of the violence that has been going on and that will about to go. The point is, say we agree there was rigging, everywhere in Pakistan there is something, it is Pakistan we are talking about. So give 10 seats....does IK win majority? NO.
Does that mean he should take to the streets and topple the gov't? NO. Does this mean anyone else won't do it? you think NO, but it's a new base and its very violent in nature. It'll repeat again.
This can be settled in a nicer and more democratic way. This isn't the first time elections have been rigged. Heck, a few years ago, the US elections at the president's level were said to have some component of foul play (Busch vs, Gore). I don't know its true or not but Gore congratulated Busch and the country moved on to a positive direction.
PLEASE DON"T give me that response that I am comparing America to Pakistan. I compared people. IK can do the SAME gesture and move on. This isn't that hard to do but it'll save a lot of time.



They tried to disburse people peacefully....what happened in Islamabad? You broke many police officers bones through torture and all. Then, you guys did that recently again, kidnapping police officers, torturing and killing officers, etc,etc. I've seen it all. Do that in the US or the UK, you'll see how they take away the responsible party to Gitmo. Common man, are you guys really this stupid or its just hate for NS and no love for your own country?

well i dont want to argue .. because you dont have any knowledge about Pakistan and its politics ... i am against any kind of violence but what police did was wrong ... and i make my statemement clear we are not US or UK .. Pakistan was , and will never be like USa and UK .. so that argument is invalid ...
plus kidnapping , murder , and shooting police , i would like to see your sources

 

[Kompromat]

But by whom , you mean army who have no credibilty , their catastrophic evil rule just ended 7 years ago.

That is a moronically wrong assessment.

If the Pakistani people have 'faith' in an institution its our armed forces. The Musharraf time was the best economic time for Pakistan in the last 20 years. Stats speak for themselves, however if you choose to remain an ignorant, that is for you to worry about.

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

5) They wont just go and throw the government out of the window. PTI Demands elections and reforms in the electoral system. Did you miss all that ? IK Has spent hours clearly explaining his demands.

Imran khan retard deserves a place in mental hospital, he does not believe in democracy, he likes to sit in the lap of dictators like mushi badmash who gifted him sheru doggy his pet. Fortunately Gen. Raheel sharif is not interested in jokers of the kind of gullu khan and gullu qadri.

 

[W.11]

"57,642 bogus votes cast in NA-256 Karachi: NADRA" : Tribune.pk

the guy who has written this report is a completely foolish guy and has basic lack of english comprehension

57,000 votes are not fake but unverified because NADRA couldn't verify them because of poor ink

The thumb impressions on 57,642 ballots could not be compared or matched through the Nadra system because the fingerprints were of very poor quality.

NADRA report reveals massive rigging in Karachi constituency - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

secondly the petition filed by PTI in NA 256 got rejected due to lack of evidence on the rigging in the constituency

PTI plea for re-polling in NA-256 rejected

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

That is a moronically wrong assessment.

If the Pakistani people have 'faith' in an institution its our armed forces. The Musharraf time was the best economic time for Pakistan in the last 20 years. Stats speak for themselves, however if you choose to remain an ignorant, that is for you to worry about.

Yes that is the reason why his own APML party scored zero seats in 2013 elections, speaks alot about his succes and pakistani people's "faith" in the institution he used illegally to topple a democratically elected government in 1999.

 

[TankMan]

The illegal military regime of mushi badmash during 1999-2007 is responsible for the current energy crisis that Pakistan is facing today, this problem was put at back burner by mush badmash regime.

Probably true, but that doesn't change the fact that Nawaz wasted money on crap and did not do anything about electricity.
Article is from Dunya news

Electricity load shedding: Shahbaz Sharif admits failure to fulfill promises
Last Updated On 16 April,2014

He said the country will be filled with lights by the end of government's tenure.

SAHIWAL (Dunya News) – Chief Minister Punjab Shahbaz Sharif admitted on Tuesday that he failed to fulfill his promises to provide early relief in electricity load shedding to people, Dunya News reported.

According to reports, Shahbaz Sharif kept reliving promises made to the people during 2013 general election campaign. He said that he had promised the people to provide immediate relief in electricity load shedding but he realized things were different and that there are many hurdles in doing so when he came to power.

Chief Minister said that following the success of self-employment scheme, the cap of loan amount is being raised from Rs 10,000 to Rs 40,000.

Shahbaz Sharif criticized those who acted with negligence in Nandi power project. Despite admitting failure, Sharif remained determined and promised that the country will be filled with lights before the tenure of current government ends.