Imran Khan's bullet proof air conditioned container for PTI's march

[Edevelop]

4)He wasted so much money with his stupid schemes (Sasti Roti scheme, for example) which haven't helped anyone. The legacy he wants is for his family to have money and power.

and later PTI would copy this scheme in KPK...

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Inside Imran Khan’s mind

Imran Khan absolutely will not negotiate with the government. No way. Under no condition whatsoever. This is a reasonable position to hold if you are one of those people who think the PML-N is a rigid, violent organisation – unlike, say, those reasonable people at the TTP.

Yes, the two situations are different but Imran’s insistence on talks with the TTP as the beginning and end of his anti-terrorism strategy, combined with his insistence that the time for talks with the government are over, show a man who does not know his mind – or does not possess one.

The PTI’s Long March, which sounds more like a Long Drive on the motorway followed by a leisurely stroll, may be targeting the government but there are others who were part of the conspiracy, says Imran. Take Fakhruddin Ebrahim, who headed the ECP at the time of the elections and against whom allegations of fraud are difficult to fling given his unfortunate history of resigning every position he has ever held – including at the ECP – on a point of principle. This description of Fakhru may sound fantastic to the Imran of today, who is convinced the throne that rightfully belongs to him was snatched by a coterie of conspirators, but the Imran of early 2013 was gushing over the man’s integrity.

Then there was the dastardly chief justice Iftikhar Chaudhry. Just look at him, going around claiming credit for driving a military dictator from power when all the time he was setting the scene for a Nawaz Sharif takeover. His act was so good that he even convinced a politician as prescient as Imran to support him, to campaign for him – hell even to Long March for him.

But the wise Imran now knows the truth – it conveniently dawned on him after Chaudhry retired and could no longer use his famed contempt of court powers, so useful when Gilani was in the dock but proof of a conspiracy when IK was in the crosshairs.

None of us should forget the role Geo played in rigging the election either, exposing itself by broadcasting breaking news on election day. The temerity!

Imran believes – or to be more accurate, claims he believes – that Geo showed itself to be part of the election manipulation team when it aired a Nawaz victory speech even though only 15 percent of the votes had been counted. Scandalous though it may be for a news channel to give its viewers news like the favourite to become the next prime minister claiming victory, Imran should expand on this accusation a little bit.

It will be fun to hear how a media organisation stuffs ballots and disappears legitimate votes. That Geo had lulled Imran into a false sense of security in the months leading up to the election by having him on its talk shows daily and lobbing softball questions at him only makes it worse. Surely there was no greater example of influencing an election than giving voters the opportunity to listen to Imran’s musings every day?

So now Imran is marching to Islamabad against the PML-N/ECP/Supreme Court/Geo combine. He may have been wrong about them in the past but now he knows their true intentions. Any chance he could be wrong again, having misjudged them so badly in the past? Shut up! Trust Imran!

But how can Imran accuse the caretaker government of rigging the elections when both the government and opposition agreed on its composition? And how did that same caretaker government rig the elections everywhere in the country except for the pristine Khyber Pakhtunkhwa? Shut up! Trust Imran!

Imran is a principled man whose word is his bond. No dissembling or propaganda from this man. When he demands that his MNAs resign from the National Assembly you can be sure that will happen immediately. What’s that you say? No one from the party has resigned yet? Shut up! Trust Imran.

Some of us are a little worried that Imran’s Long March will be seized upon by the military to either reduce Nawaz’s power or even takeover itself. We have a tragic history of populist anti-government movements being hijacked by the army. No need to worry, Imran has assured as that he will not allow the military to move in.

Obviously the boys in khaki will be heedful that Imran has given his word to the nation and immediately shelve any plans it is to destabilise the government. Don’t think that will happen? Shut up! Trust Imran!

There have recently been some calls for a Kemalist intervention in the country, as if we can choose what kind of dictator we have ruling us. But there is no need for an Ataturk in the country when we have Imran. He obviously subscribes to the Great Man theory of history and believes himself the Greatest Man of all.

Inconsistencies and illogic cease to matter when one is that great. As for the rest of us? We all need to shut up and trust Imran.

 

[Viper0011.]

well i dont want to argue .. because you dont have any knowledge about Pakistan and its politics ... i am against any kind of violence but what police did was wrong ... and i make my statemement clear we are not US or UK .. Pakistan was , and will never be like USa and UK .. so that argument is invalid ...
plus kidnapping , murder , and shooting police , i would like to see your sources

I know just as much Pakistani politics as you or anyone on here. I've met majority of these idiots many times in LOndon and other places, including NS, IK. So nothing is new to me.
Its not about Pakistan being US or not. Its about Pakistan's politicians not running dangerous extremism into politics risking people's lives.
Go to Google and put in mullah Greeder's name, there are a lot of video showing your torture from both ends, kidnapping of policemen and killed policemen and innocent civilians.

 

[TankMan]

and later PTI would copy this scheme in KPK...

Do you mean the Iftar Scheme? If not, please give a link.

 

[Kompromat]

Yes that is the reason why his own APML party scored zero seats in 2013 elections, speaks alot about his succes and pakistani people's "faith" in the institution he used illegally to topple a democratically elected government in 1999.

I am not here to give you tissue papers.

Few days ago Imran Khan was saying he is not scared of bullet.

wah wah kya U-Turn marliya.

Spare us the silly posts. Do you have an argument?

 

[Viper0011.]

1) Pakistan has helped "as a friend" in many UN missions and stuff too. In international politics, this kind of stuff rarely has any significance. Yes, our government did beg a lot. Why do you think we protest against the govt?

2) I agree, there's no need for any more deaths. It's about time Nawaz comes to his senses and atleast stop the blockade of Lahore.

3)If not PPP, NS will find another "partner".

4)He wasted so much money with his stupid schemes (Sasti Roti scheme, for example) which haven't helped anyone. The legacy he wants is for his family to have money and power.

5) They wont just go and throw the government out of the window. PTI Demands elections and reforms in the electoral system. Did you miss all that ? IK Has spent hours clearly explaining his demands.

I am glad you finally got the firs two points and agreed to it.
3) A partner just like IK found with the military and the mullah Greeder? Yup, that's the future. Everyone will be finding partners till the country breaks!
4) Wasted money or not.....the time for accountability isn't through toppling the government. It is to hold them accountable at the end and highlight how messed up they may be. But what if they turn the tide if you let them work for 5 years? They have a lot of connections and a lot of money is coming in for many projects. That have never happened in the history of Pakistan
5) LOL, IK hasn't produced jack in KPK, the guy like the mullah says one thing and backs out. Either of these guys are seasoned politicians or commitment focused. So I won't believe his 9 hours speech. Actions speak louder than words. He should highlight what he's done for KPK before trying to topple the government.....

 

[Kompromat]

They should have work for this goal before participating in election. Did Ik bothered to think about reform in election process if he managed to win the election and formed central government? He thought about reforms after losing the elections.

Do you get your car fixed before it breaks down?

- Taliban will be back with vengeance supported by Afg and India. Watch my words. Your stretched too thin military won't know how to handle it. Trust me on what I am saying and give it a thought. These protests if turned violent and toppled the government, will start to break Pakistan.
- PPP isn't dead. What IK is doing, they can do too. Take Sindh and do this there and cut that down from the Federal. THAT is precisely what I am saying, you are providing so many new friends to your enemies if this happened here. Trust me on it, we'll be talking about it when it happens. Seen it WAY too many times in the recent history. You are about to pop up a new ethnic based identity in Pakistan that would break it apart. India and others will be pouring in $$$$ in amounts that you won't believe.
- The goal whatever it may be, will derail the system. That's what your enemies want right now. The visitor from Dubai may be getting paid by some of your enemies. Your enemy don't want Pakistan to become a stable country with prosperity and the Chinese partnership right on their borders. I think you are smart enough to know that??
- Clean system will only be build by the time next elections will happen (normally, not like this) and when IK and Shariff's will sit down and discuss how to make these fool proof the next time. All other options, take you guys straight into your enemy's long term strategy and you are falling like a fool in their hands.
- NS won this time too.....even if you minus the Ten seats....so why not work with him and save all this long term trouble and get the country to progress on the right track???

Aero man, I've fought with people trying to make the above points which no one wants to hear due to blind love for IK. Frankly speaking, you are about to get hit by a bus and I am warning you guys as a courtesy and out of care!

I very much appreciate your concerns, however i do believe that they are misplaced.

 

[Edevelop]

Do you mean the Iftar Scheme? If not, please give a link.

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

Do you get your car fixed before it breaks down?

Some people have the habbit to claim that their car is broken even though car is just as fine as it was always, imran khan is that kind of guy.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Do you get your car fixed before it breaks down?

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yea MOT(annual test for safety and exhaust emissions of motor vehicles of more than a specified age) before i drive it
I will not sit in a car and will not drive it if its not safe for driving.

Imran khan knew how election process work and has trusted ECP before going for election. Its only when he lost , he thought it was not fair election. Its hard for Pakistani political leaders to digest their defeat and always come up with excuses to deny it. Its not something new.

 

[Edevelop]

I am not here to give you tissue papers.



Spare us the silly posts. Do you have an argument?

Do you have an answer as to why he went from being fearless to being fearful ?

 

[TankMan]

I am glad you finally got the firs two points and agreed to it.
3) A partner just like IK found with the military and the mullah Greeder? Yup, that's the future. Everyone will be finding partners till the country breaks!
4) Wasted money or not.....the time for accountability isn't through toppling the government. It is to hold them accountable at the end and highlight how messed up they may be. But what if they turn the tide if you let them work for 5 years? They have a lot of connections and a lot of money is coming in for many projects. That have never happened in the history of Pakistan
5) LOL, IK hasn't produced jack in KPK, the guy like the mullah says one thing and backs out. Either of these guys are seasoned politicians or commitment focused. So I won't believe his 9 hours speech. Actions speak louder than words. He should highlight what he's done for KPK before trying to topple the government.....

3) Are you actually saying that the army is actively trying to undermine Pakistan? IK is not allying with Qadri, Qadri is trying to jump on the 14thAugust "bandwagon"

4)They were Prime Minister 3 times and Chief ministers about 5 times, they'll just do the same again. Isn't it obvious?? If their intensions are so good, explain one thing: WHY ARE THEY PANICKING? Why didn't they just agree to PTI and open up ONLY 4 constituencies to investigation? Why are they putting containers up and using their police to stop a peaceful protest, consequently turning it violent?

5) PTI is made up mostly of educated people and they have developed various frameworks and implemented them, such as:
-KPK Dispute Resolution Council KPK introduces Dispute Resolution Council of Police
-Police Reforms:

1- sms service for domestic violence and issues related to women.

2- female desks at police stations for women

3- online FIR system

4- Raising the salaries to double, and again raising it this month or next.

5- induction of women in police force.

6- suggested KPK govt laws, which were enacted last month, namely **the hotel restriction act.

7- installation of cameras in police stations to monitor performance. etc etc

are few of the reforms that are introduced in KP police department.

Source: Police reforms in KPK

They are trying, give them a chance.

PMLN got 3 turns, give me a list of what they did, if you can.

 

[syedali73]

They should have work for this goal before participating in election. Did Ik bothered to think about reform in election process if he managed to win the election and formed central government? He thought about reforms after losing the elections.

Imran (and other politicians for that matter) was reassured by the Chief Justice and the Chief Election Commissioner on free-and-fair elections. In the light of those reassurances coming from such top level, there was simply no need for Imran to call for the electoral reforms. Besides, he is not talking about the reforms because he lost (in several places his party won), but because of the evidence of rigging and apparent inability (even possible complicity) of the CEC/CJ/election tribunals to get the matter resolved. He is not alone in complaining about the rigging, but he is the one who wants to make sure that this does not happen again.

 

[SBD-3]

And the better part is that Utility stores are operated by federal government

 

[TankMan]

Thanks, i didn't think he meant this, it is hardly similar to PMLN's scheme.
I certainly hope this works and doesn't end in a waste.