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Imran (and other politicians for that matter) was reassured by the Chief Justice and the Chief Election Commissioner on free-and-fair elections. In the light of those reassurances coming from such top level, there was simply no need for Imran to call for the electoral reforms. Besides, he is not talking about the reforms because he lost (in several places his party won), but because of the evidence of rigging and apparent inability (even possible complicity) of the CEC/CJ/election tribunals to get the matter resolved. He is not alone in complaining about the rigging, but he is the one who wants to make sure that this does not happen again.

This drama queen imran khan also participated in 2002 elections AND it was rigging of mushi regime in his favor in 2002 that he won first time from mianwali, the whole election of 2002 under mushi badmash regime was the most rigged both pre-election and post-elections, i never saw this drama queen imran khan raised a single time the issue of election rigging after 2002 election. For this kind of drama queen it was all fine as long as he achieved his objective which was merely one national assembly seat from mianwali.
 
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And the better part is that Utility stores are operated by federal government :lol:
Your hatred for Imran (PTI) appears to make you oblivious of even simplest of the things. He is not taking credit of the Utility stores, but giving the vouchers to the needy.

This drama queen imran khan also participated in 2002 elections AND it was rigging of mushi regime in his favor in 2002 that he won first time from mianwali, the whole election of 2002 under mushi badmash regime was the most rigged both pre-election and post-elections, i never saw this drama queen imran khan raised a single time the issue of election rigging after 2002 election. For this kind of drama queen it is all fine as long as he achieves his objective which was merely one national assembly seat from mianwali.
Can you discuss with civility?
 
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Your hatred for Imran (PTI) appears to make you oblivious of even simplest of the things. He is not taking credit of the Utility stores, but giving the vouchers to the needy.

Can you discuss with civility?

I have no respect for those who have destroyed pakistan or are busy in destroying and causing anarchy in pakistan at this very moment.
 
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This drama queen imran khan also participated in 2002 elections AND it was rigging of mushi regime in his favor in 2002 that he won first time from mianwali, the whole election of 2002 under mushi badmash regime was the most rigged both pre-election and post-elections, i never saw this drama queen imran khan raised a single time the issue of election rigging after 2002 election. For this kind of drama queen it was all fine as long as he achieved his objective which was merely one national assembly seat from mianwali.

Present proof for the allegations you are making
 
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I have no respect for those who have destroyed pakistan or are busy in destroying and causing anarchy in pakistan at this very moment.

The anarchy was caused by 2 things:
-Qadri and his people, who were trying to have a peaceful protest, were provoked by the police on orders from PMLN govt.
-PMLN over-reacting (or being too scared to react properly) and blocking the whole country down.
 
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Do you have an answer as to why he went from being fearless to being fearful ?

Fear is in human nature, its levels depend on the sort of threat one faces and its magnitude. As i stated earlier with the amount of Pakistani leaders assassinated in the past, he would be silly to take his security lightly.
 
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That is a moronically wrong assessment.

If the Pakistani people have 'faith' in an institution its our armed forces. The Musharraf time was the best economic time for Pakistan in the last 20 years. Stats speak for themselves, however if you choose to remain an ignorant, that is for you to worry about.

Musharraff's time wasn't the best economic time due to his greatness, smartness and economic abilities. It was because the money was coming in from the US, announced and unannounced plus aid. So of course, flow of the money is always downwards as someone has to do the work even far cheaper than the top guys. Once the funding stopped if he didn't leave, the best economic times would've hit the sack pretty quickly.
A military general is a military general. He's not designed to be a negotiator or a policitian or an expert on the economy.

Do you get your car fixed before it breaks down?

I very much appreciate your concerns, however i do believe that they are misplaced.

Absolutely, if the car is going in for a maintenance check (just like how IK "refines" the electoral process to where he lost, which is maintenance process for the voting, etc).

Last but not least. My concerns aren't misplaced. Both Mulah Greeder and the Taliban Khan shouldn't be causing public disturbance, stock market crashes and innocent getting killed for their greed of power. They want to show body counts to topple the government. They sit in their AC buses and kick it (IK specifically likes an old bottle of Jack, good times I remember), but innocent followers take the bullet. This is putting innocent in the harms way knowingly and its treason in other countries to try to topple the running government.

The anarchy was caused by 2 things:
-Qadri and his people, who were trying to have a peaceful protest, were provoked by the police on orders from PMLN govt.
-PMLN over-reacting (or being too scared to react properly) and blocking the whole country down.

Well if the body bags weren't coming in, the mullah Greeder and Taliban Khan weren't issuing serious threats to government and to their leadership to be killed, this all could have been avoided. A government is responsible to running the country, you can't let these terrorist like leaders issue threat and bring down the stick market and the entire system. That's freaking treason. Try doing that anywhere in the West, see if you can see the next morning outside of jail for life. Public safety and welfare is the utmost important thing. You guys don't learn from your mistakes or from your neighbors. That's why your country is considered what its considered in the rest of the world
 
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Can't blame a man for thinking about his security.
 
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Can't blame a man for thinking about his security.

You need to read through. No one blames another one for his or her security. However, no one should ALSO blame others for considering their security either. Its like everything else, where IK won, its great. Where he lost, its cheating. If the Security if for IK, its great. If the security is for NS, its waste of tax payers money.
If NS"s family member take their mother to a foreign hospital, there is a problem. If IK goes to London for check ups and enjoys Jack Daniels with British babes and lords, that's GREAT.

Crap gotta make sense right? Its not sensible for these guys to risk innocent lives at risk for a violent agenda that would destroy their political democratic system
 
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Last but not least. My concerns aren't misplaced. Both Mulah Greeder and the Taliban Khan shouldn't be causing public disturbance, stock market crashes and innocent getting killed for their greed of power. They want to show body counts to topple the government. They sit in their AC buses and kick it (IK specifically likes an old bottle of Jack, good times I remember), but innocent followers take the bullet. This is putting innocent in the harms way knowingly and its treason in other countries to try to topple the running government.


Still calling him "Taliban Khan"? You are really stubborn.
Again, stock market crashes are a result of PMLN's reaction to a perfectly peaceful call for protest by PTI.

Now, about Qadri, I personally dislike him for many reasons, but this time whatever is happening is not just his fault. It was the government who provoked him a month ago, and they provoked him now again by using the police as political tools.

I'd like to ask a few questions from you:
1) Do you think that PMLN reacted rationally by blocking Lahore and invoking article 245? Was it a justified and proportional response?

2) How are you so sure that PMLN has done and will do good for the country, despite the fact that you apparently don't live in Pakistan?

3) Do you believe that the 2013 elections were rigged or not?
 
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A military general is a military general. He's not designed to be a negotiator or a policitian or an expert on the economy.

If people in pakistan understand this basic reality , most of the pakistan's problems would be solved. A millitary man is good only to run military not the politics of the country. you cannot get your broken car fixed by a bike mechanic.

You need to read through. No one blames another one for his or her security. However, no one should ALSO blame others for considering their security either. Its like everything else, where IK won, its great. Where he lost, its cheating. If the Security if for IK, its great. If the security is for NS, its waste of tax payers money.
If NS"s family member take their mother to a foreign hospital, there is a problem. If IK goes to London for check ups and enjoys Jack Daniels with British bases, that GREAT.
Crap gotta make sense right? Its not sensible for these guys to risk innocent lives at risk for a violent agenda that would destroy their political democratic system

Yes for supporters of Imran khan everything is OK as long as it is done only by IK , even if it is to enjoy parties like "save the elephant" with prince charles
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Still calling him "Taliban Khan"? You are really stubborn.
Again, stock market crashes are a result of PMLN's reaction to a perfectly peaceful call for protest by PTI.

Now, about Qadri, I personally dislike him for many reasons, but this time whatever is happening is not just his fault. It was the government who provoked him a month ago, and they provoked him now again by using the police as political tools.

I'd like to ask a few questions from you:
1) Do you think that PMLN reacted rationally by blocking Lahore and invoking article 245? Was it a justified and proportional response?

2) How are you so sure that PMLN has done and will do good for the country, despite the fact that you apparently don't live in Pakistan?

3) Do you believe that the 2013 elections were rigged or not?

If he's going to threaten others and risk human lives, that's the name I got for him. When he matures up and actually gets into dialogue the way it is supposed to be, I'll give him his respect back. No where is it written that for your greed, you put people in harms way, threaten a running system, and threaten to kill others, that's what Talibans do. You and I both know this.

1) Protest is everyone's right. But when you start having body bags, the government has to take actions. If there was a perceived threat for something wrong to happen, the US government will also lock down whatever it needs to , to ensure public safety.
Listen to the language being used by both the mullah and the Khan, it sounds nothing like political talk, its always threats, risk and violence that comes out.
2) I know the current government is working as I am involved with many things that tell me that and first hand. I can give you a list of projects. I think I already provided it on here before on a different thread. Look it up. I do business in Asia and Europe so I do come to Pakistan, India, China etc.
3) Every elections will have some component or foul play. The margin of error exist in everything, even when robots do stuff. So humans will have errors. Are the errors so much that IK lost his place in the national assembly? HELL NO. Are the mistakes enough to bring down the government and issue threat to a running system? HELL NO.
Are the threats worth a human to die for? Definitely HELL NO! But you already have many dead bodies, both government employees and innocents because their leaders are stupid and extremist enough to not care for human lives (thus the name I read somewhere Taliban Khan). IK should be a bit flexible, this is not a situation where you let your ego out so bad that your country takes a hit for many, many billions of dollars and then human lives are lost.
 
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If he's going to threaten others and risk human lives, that's the name I got for him. When he matures up and actually gets into dialogue the way it is supposed to be, I'll give him his respect back. No where is it written that for your greed, you put people in harms way, threaten a running system, and threaten to kill others, that's what Talibans do. You and I both know this.

1) Protest is everyone's right. But when you start having body bags, the government has to take actions. If there was a perceived threat for something wrong to happen, the US government will also lock down whatever it needs to , to ensure public safety.
Listen to the language being used by both the mullah and the Khan, it sounds nothing like political talk, its always threats, risk and violence that comes out.
2) I know the current government is working as I am involved with many things that tell me that and first hand. I can give you a list of projects. I think I already provided it on here before on a different thread. Look it up. I do business in Asia and Europe so I do come to Pakistan, India, China etc.
3) Every elections will have some component or foul play. The margin of error exist in everything, even when robots do stuff. So humans will have errors. Are the errors so much that IK lost his place in the national assembly? HELL NO. Are the mistakes enough to bring down the government and issue threat to a running system? HELL NO.
Are the threats worth a human to die for? Definitely HELL NO! But you already have many dead bodies, both government employees and innocents because their leaders are stupid and extremist enough to not care for human lives (thus the name I read somewhere Taliban Khan). IK should be a bit flexible, this is not a situation where you let your ego out so bad that your country takes a hit for many, many billions of dollars and then human lives are lost.

1) funny thing is, the body bags started coming AFTER the government took action. Heck,they weren't even talking about protesting when Punjab Police tried to remove barriers or something and it degenerated into a massacre.
Google "2014 Lahore Clash"

2) Great, I'm glad to hear that. Unfortunately, most normal Pakistanis don't have the same oppurtunities as you do, so they cannot tell whether the government is doing anything or not. All they see is containers, load shedding and police brutality.

3) So you do agree that PMLN cheated? But if they were so strong and powerful, why did they cheat? I see your point that IK is being too radical, but his recent actions are a reaction to the fact that PMLN was not willing to investigate even JUST 4 constituencies, which (along with other things) led him and his followers to believe that Nawaz's government is illegitimate.

So, the question is, If the rigging was so insignificant, why was Nawaz so scared of an investigation?
 
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