Imran Khan & The Future of Pakistan-India Relations

[Baghial]

Well said.

One poster in your quoted comments said that it is difficult for Pakistanis to visit India.

Is that true ?? I thought some Pakistanis come to India for medical treatment.

By the way, I voted for "Yes, we need money and investments" in the poll.

1- indians either convert to islam-

2- get abolished in n- war--


3- or become our slaves--



you can choose only 1 option .........1-

 

[Hassan_Ishtiaq]

Money is not everything man look at the young Kashmiri population they want freedom they're relying on us they trust us on this we can't just abandon them. You want Pakistan to have a tag of a country who after fighting 4 wars betrayed Kashmir and Kashmiris just for few $$$? And what about Kashmiri youth? How you think they're gonna react? We've invested too much backing out isn't an option for Pak or Ind. Referendum is the way forward not any other solution.

That's mostly our fault for egging Kashmiris on when in fact they could be living peacefully in India. We gave them false hope.

There's already close to 200 million Muslims in India.

I honestly don't understand why some Pakistanis are still obsessed with Kashmir.

The world is bigger than Pakistan-Kashmir-India situation.

We Pakistanis need to broaden our horizons and look to make money because money is important.

Unfortunately it took until IK to make any progress in this regard. Though I will give credit to Musharraf for the progress this country made under him.

Kashmir is too costly and we are broke. We need money. Kashmiris will have to accept the reality of India.

 

[Whirling_dervesh]

As another poster stated, the very existence of Pakistan is anathema to most Bharatis, akhand bharat is their ultimate goal. They don't want to trade with u they want to own u. Moving to india would be better for u.

 

[Baghial]

Bro, we can rule out Kashmir because nothing is gonna happen in that regard. It's a waste of time.

why--? did our brave got a blood trans----------- fusion ---------- from indians hospitals--

and we became enuchs?

 

[Hamza913]

With the recent approval of giving overseas Indians easy access to Pakistani visa, along with other India-friendly policy initiatives recently taken by current PTI administration I think this is an excellent direction that Imran Khan and PTI are taking Pakistan in. Hopefully the next step will be to give Indians from India itself access to Pakistani visas with the eventual goal of making visa-free travel between the two countries as this will promote people-to-people relations and friendship between Muslims and Hindus but will also boost Pakistan's economy.

There is so much tourism potential and money making opportunities here by forming friendly relations with India as so many members here rightfully pointed out in the linked thread: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/175-...-arrival-foreign-indians-included-too.598727/













But then there were those who voiced their apprehension, citing the harsh treatment that Indians give to Pakistanis who apply for Indian visa:




While some cited other reasons like normalizing friendly relations with Indians would nullify the reasons for partition and separation from India:






And then others proposed other alternatives to seeking Indian tourists:



As can be seen this is a divisive subject.

I for one fully support Imran Khan/PTI's initiative and am in favor of open tourism and inve$tment from Indians. We were once one people and are still the same people divided by political differences created by power hungry politicians.

Kashmir is really a political dispute, which can easily be resolved by accepting current LoC as international border. In this age of globalization money is more important and borders are irrelevant.

What are your thoughts?

@Indus Pakistan @django @PAKISTANFOREVER @Tps43 @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @Taimur Khurram

I say we normalise them for now, and buy our time so we can eventually crush them.

 

[Hassan_Ishtiaq]

Well said.

One poster in your quoted comments said that it is difficult for Pakistanis to visit India.

Is that true ?? I thought some Pakistanis come to India for medical treatment.

By the way, I voted for "Yes, we need money and investments" in the poll.

Honestly I have never visited India but I do plan on it. I want to be among those of the younger generations who heal the scars of partition and prove the two nation theory wrong. I a Muslim Pakistani seeks to erase and artificial boundaries created between the people of our respective countries. We are one and the same and we all have the same desires in life; to make money and live in peace.

By the way, I voted for "Yes, we need money and investments" in the poll.

My bad. Should have clarified that only Pakistanis can vote in the poll.

why--? did our brave got a blood trans----------- fusion ---------- from indians hospitals--

and we became enuchs?

Because these concepts are outdated and silly.

Why exactly are we fighting the Indians? Remind me again please.

I say we normalise them for now, and buy our time so we can eventually crush them.

That wouldn't happen if everyone is making their money from cross border tourism and relationships.

Lol, guys please read your posts from an outsider perspective, you will see how silly this whole narrative about our obsession with Kashmir and hatred for India is.

The whole world is globalizing and you people here are still having fantasies of "crushing" Indians

Referendum is the way forward not any other solution.

Have both sides agreed to one? I don't think so. If some want to wait a million years for a referendum they can hold their breaths.

But most people want to move on with their lives and make a living. I have hope in IK/PTI because they are the only ones who have done anything in this regard.

 

[Death Professor]

There's already close to 200 million Muslims in India.

then why there hasn't been a muslim PM in 71 years of democracy? Why there are cow lynchings happening to this day? Why there is ban on Cow qurbani in some states? why can't a muslim buy a house in Mumbai? If you want to be like Adnan Sami or whatever, go the f there, but don't even propose that Pakistani's would rather prefer money while their brothers are dying in Kashmir.

 

[Hassan_Ishtiaq]

Btw, pretty sure only indian's would choose the 1st choice, I mean how is that even a question.

Why wouldn't it be a option?

We need money, and tourism from India has so much to offer considering their immense population of 1.4 billion people. That's a huge market right there my friend.

Broaden your horizons. There's plenty of green gra$$ on the other side of the fence and is all for your taking. Only you are holding yourself back with illusions of Kashmir and partition.

then why there hasn't been a muslim PM in 71 years of democracy? Why there are cow lynchings happening to this day? Why there is ban on Cow qurbani in some states? why can't a muslim buy a house in Mumbai? If you want to be like Adnan Sami or whatever, go the f there, but don't even propose that Pakistani's would rather prefer money while their brothers are dying in Kashmir.

There are issues all over in every country. You are simply cherry picking.

Most Pakistani members on this forum would agree with me @Khan_21 @Path-Finder @Moonlight

 

[Hamza913]

Lol, guys please read your posts from an outsider perspective, you will see how silly this whole narrative about our obsession with Kashmir and hatred for India is.

I didn't bring up Kashmir, and my problem with India is because of much more than what it does to Kashmiris.

 

[jamahir]

1- indians either convert to islam-

2- get abolished in n- war--


3- or become our slaves--



you can choose only 1 option .........1-

Become practical, become wiser.

Honestly I have never visited India but I do plan on it. I want to be among those of the younger generations who heal the scars of partition and prove the two nation theory wrong. I a Muslim Pakistani seeks to erase and artificial boundaries created between the people of our respective countries. We are one and the same and we all have the same desires in life; to make money and live in peace.

Because these concepts are outdated and silly.

Why exactly are we fighting the Indians? Remind me again please.

That wouldn't happen if everyone is making their money from cross border tourism and relationships.

Lol, guys please read your posts from an outsider perspective, you will see how silly this whole narrative about our obsession with Kashmir and hatred for India is.

The whole world is globalizing and you people here are still having fantasies of "crushing" Indians

There should be more wise people like you in India and Pakistan.

Our respective countries have many domestic problems whom we should deal at an express rate while also signing peace with each other. The money and resourced released from military purchases and management will go far for the development of the Subcontinent.

Edit : "Problems". Not "Peoples".

 

[Hassan_Ishtiaq]

I didn't bring up Kashmir, and my problem with India is because of much more than what it does to Kashmiris.

So what are those problems that prevent you from wanting Pakistanis to make financial and economic gains from friendly relations with Indians?

 

[jamahir]

Edit : Problems . Not "peoples".

 

[Hamza913]

So what are those problems that prevent you from wanting Pakistanis to make financial and economic gains from friendly relations with Indians?

I said sure, we can do that for now. But that shouldn't be our long term prospect.

 

[Death Professor]

There are issues all over in every country. You are simply cherry picking.

Most Pakistani members on this forum would agree with me @Khan_21 @Path-Finder @Moonlight

Not cherry picking, most Pakistani members would disagree with you @django @Windjammer @Areesh @Tps43

Why wouldn't it be a option?

We need money, and tourism from India has so much to offer considering their immense population of 1.4 billion people. That's a huge market right there my friend.

Broaden your horizons. There's plenty of green gra$$ on the other side of the fence and is all for your taking. Only you are holding yourself back with illusions of Kashmir and partition.

Wth are you smoking? Quote me the GDP/capita of Pakistan here and also India. In your brain you have assumed that India is a rich country, which isn't the case. We had 2 problems currently which india doesn't have 1) balance of payments issue 2) Foreign reserves. Apart from these two every economic condition of Pakistan is similar to India. We have trade deficit in export/import, they have trade deficit. We have debt issue, they have that issue.

 

[Baghial]

Become practical, become wiser.







There should be more wise people like you in India and Pakistan.

Our respective countries have many domestic problems whom we should deal at an express rate while also signing peace with each other. The money and resourced released from military purchases and management will go far for the development of the Subcontinent.

Edit : "Problems". Not "Peoples".

you can keep your stratagey of stupidity alive