Imran Khan house surrounded by police

[DJ_Viper]

When have courts delivered justice?

Sir, Now this sounds like Mr. Trump without substance. Well, if the courts haven't delivered justice, he should go to the public and outline his case for the next elections. If he wins, great. If he loses again, that really means people aren't interested in his politics or agenda. So therefore, if one can't gain the majority votes, he/she shouldn't start violence that will damage their country. This situation he is about to start, has no happy ending, it'll either end in a military take over (sanctions), or a civil war or at the least billions more worth of loss without anything serious accomplished. So why damage a poor country that hasn't recovered from the violence the Taliban put you through till recently (or still in progress as there was a massive event two days ago)? Is this even a time for this?

The country wasn't made for Mr. Khan alone. It was made for the people and in that regards, the majority wins. If that doesn't serve his purpose, may be he should focus on his charity work and help people that way? If I am not wanted in politics and I can't win, I should realize that I can't take my supporters into a civil war. I should know many be I am either not sending out my message the right way or I am not cut for this. But the responsibility is on me and my team members to help me understand the reality. Thanks

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

@Zibago @The Sandman @Moonlight @PaklovesTurkiye

Hope this phase pass soon....Can't afford this too longer

 

[Mansoon]

Well, if the courts haven't delivered justice, he should go to the public and outline his case for the next elections

Next elections will be rigged just like past one. Government had 5 years to fix the rigging by using electronic voting plus giving expats right to vote. 3 years has been and it has done nothing to implement the reforms because they are products of rigging. Next election they will rig it even further with the looted wealth

He has to win the majority and violence, lock-downs, etc, won't get you that.

It's not possible to win a majority in a rigged system. Even judicial commission has exposed mass irregularities in every area they investigated

 

[DJ_Viper]

Next elections will be rigged just like past one. Government had 5 years to fix the rigging by using electronic voting plus giving expats right to vote. 3 years has been and it has done nothing to implement the reforms because they are products of rigging. Next election they will rig it even further with the looted wealth

Sir, this post again sounds like Mr. Trump's comments without substance or logic. Forgive me for saying how it is. If the elections were "rigged", what did the court say? I can't find one research paper, or a factual article on the entire internet saying the elections were rigged. In fact, a few international entities monitored the elections and called them excellent compared to the previous ones.

Second, if after three years, you don't think a government elected by the majority has done what you expected, who gives you or anyone the right to take them out with violence? They have two more years, if they don't produce anything, the people will kick them out. You should be educating people, not conducting violence that will only harm people and there is no result that will comes out of it. Thanks

 

[MastanKhan]

That route is longer but most secure and only one feasible as all the fascilities like hotels etc exist...other purposed routes especially western one is not even travelled by tribals let alone chinese

Indian army shud try to make a surgical strike against pak first before going to chinese border...

This is one of the most stupid thing i have heard throughout my short but colorfull life

Hi,

Many a militaries with thick and high walls of their fortresses thought them impregnable by the enemy---and though the enemy to be stupid---but then later found themselves to be stupid a moment before the enemy swords loped their heads off.

 

[Mansoon]

I can't find one research paper, or a factual article on the entire internet saying the elections were rigged.

Google:
Judicial Commission clearly confirms systematic and deliberate rigging in 2013 elections

 

[Mrc]

Hi,

Many a militaries with thick and high walls of their fortresses thought them impregnable by the enemy---and though the enemy to be stupid---but then later found themselves to be stupid a moment before the enemy swords loped their heads off.

Indian armour will race through pakistani nukes on a 120km/hr motorway to meet chinese nukes..and win.. take your meds

That motorway already exists...from lahore to chinese border

 

[DJ_Viper]

Google:
Judicial Commission clearly confirms systematic and deliberate rigging in 2013 elections

Thank you sir. I did the google thing. This is what came up, and many of similar reports showing there was nothing major to be concerned about. Certainly nothing worth getting people's lives in harms way. Also, a couple of other reports I studied, also showed that he has lost 90% of any re-elections since these general elections. which show his popularity suffered due to his 2014 sit-in. Thanks

Imran Khan accepts findings of judicial commission report
Dawn.com | Irfan Haider — Updated Jul 23, 2015 09:50pm

http://www.dawn.com/news/1195870

 

[Mansoon]

Thank you sir. I did the google thing. This is what came up, and many of similar reports showing there was nothing major to be concerned about. Certainly nothing worth getting people's lives in harms way.

I am a new member so cannot post direct links yet. But I will send the report link later

 

[DJ_Viper]

I am a new member so cannot post direct links yet. But I will send the report link later

Sir, there are a couple of reports designed for Mr. Khan's voters. The remainder of the international press like the BBC, etc, say the same thing. I even read the report just now. There was nothing beyond 3 seats I think? Even on those, Mr. Khan lost on majority during re-election.

So, please help me understand what's the outcome of this. May be then we can have a smart discussion on this topic. Thanks.

 

[Mansoon]

So, please help me understand what's the outcome of this. May be then we can have a smart discussion on this topic. Thanks.

Outcome was that election reforms were needed to avoid rigging in next elections yet government hasnt done anything to fix the system as a foul proof system would not allow rigging

 

[DJ_Viper]

Outcome was that election reforms were needed to avoid rigging in next elections yet government hasnt done anything to fix the system as a foul proof system would not allow rigging

Sir, you've repeated yourself in different ways like 4 times. The question I asked was, what do you and Mr. Khan think the outcome of this new violent filled episode that has already begun? There is nothing he can get out of it (and I am just using common sense and the lessons I've read from the history and applying those on here). So what good does he think he'll bring through this show? Please elaborate so we can discuss. I hope there is some national "change" that would come out of it as he's about to risk a lot of human lives, for what seems like his quest to run the government of Pakistan, which can't take place. But please elaborate. Thanks

 

[Mansoon]

Sir, you've repeated yourself in different ways like 4 times. The question I asked was, what do you and Mr. Khan think the outcome of this new violent filled episode that has already begun? There is nothing he can get out of it (and I am just using common sense and the lessons I've read from the history and applying those on here). So what good does he think he'll bring through this show? Please elaborate so we can discuss. I hope there is some national "change" that would come out of it as he's about to risk a lot of human lives, for what seems like his quest to run the government of Pakistan, which can't take place. But please elaborate. Thanks

There will be a couple of changes if Nawaz Sharif is removed by mass protests. First it will show the political class that they are not above the people. Second they will know that if they do corruption, people will remove them from power in a day. Third they will understand that mass protests brings democracy further not backwards.

 

[WAJsal]

Funny i thought it was Imran Khan who was going to shutdown Islamabad and not the government with the containers and all.
PS: Sindh-Punjab border is being sealed. People getting caught all over Punjab.
I don't see anything good coming out of all this, especially when well-known goons like Rana Sanaullah are talking about crackdowns and all.
Some joker saying the state is reacting, while forgetting that Islamabad High court has already given a ruling on this topic. It's not 2 November yet. Imran Khan should be given his legal right to challenge this decision. Why are party convection's feeling the heat? Is it even legal to arrest party workers for no legitimate reason. Or for a so-called crime they haven't committed yet?
Corrupt mafia would rather die, forget about accountability.
@Irfan Baloch ,@Arsalan ,@notorious_eagle ...

I hope this post is not a threat to jamhooriat.

 

[544_delta]

By the way PTI karachi chapter ask traders to close their shops till Friday prayers, let see how many people will respond.

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/imran-khan-house-surrounded-by-police.458224/#ixzz4OMUfG8eT
I am a PTI voter but frankly this is disturbing news....this culture of shutting down economic activities should end now...wasn't MQM enough? or is PTI going to replace them by adapting their dirty tactics,,