Imran Khan house surrounded by police

[HAIDER]

It has always been my opinion that one state has adopted asymmetric warfare as state policy, and practices it on a constant and sustained basis. The other is essentially conservative, does not permit its intelligence apparatus to get out of hand, and does not - did not - allow terror as a state-sponsored methodology.

I continue to retain this belief. The track record speaks for itself.

Its very hard , because corruption has already been proved and NS is not ready to accept, like his party member said in parliament ....Chaudry sahib don t worry people will forget his Panama leak in few days......

 

[DJ_Viper]

Its all because those who in power try to stay in power forever. Unfortunately , you comparing first world with 3rd world. Pakistan is passing through political transformation . Its all democracy , let it happened as long as 3rd umpire doesn't interfere.

Sir, there is no first world vs. the third world. If one is elected through votes, and the legal system doesn't remove him/her, no one else has the authority to remove that person for their term. And certainly, no one with violence and threats for sure. Unless you live in a jungle. Mr. Khan should go to courts, and prepare people with education to win majority. If he doesn't win, well, I am sorry, the people rule and he has to wait till he gains majority. Even if he removes the PM by force, what's the outcome? More violence? A Civil War? A Military Take Over? Neither option makes any sense or does anything better for your nation. So why do it to cause more damage to the entire country? Makes no logical sense whatsoever. Thanks

 

[HAIDER]

Sir, there is no first world vs. the third world. If one is elected through votes, and the legal system doesn't remove him/her, no one else has the authority to remove that person for their term. And certainly, no one with violence and threats for sure. Unless you live in a jungle. Mr. Khan should go to courts, and prepare people with education to win majority. If he doesn't win, well, I am sorry, the people rule and he has to wait till he gains majority. Even if he removes the PM by force, what's the outcome? More violence? A Civil War? A Military Take Over? Neither option makes any sense or does anything better for your nation. So why do it to cause more damage to the entire country? Makes no logical sense whatsoever. Thanks

Do you think NS will leave without agitation ?...Six month parliamentarian fought for Panama leak TOR, but Govt party insist to start from 1947.....is it really a joke or what.

 

[DJ_Viper]

Do you think NS will leave without agitation ?

Sir, to be frank with you, do you know what Mr. Khan is after? I doubt he knows because his acts make no logical sense or even show any benefit to him. Here is why I said this.

If Mr. Sharif doesn't leave, what would happen? More violence. If he decides to bring hundreds of thousands of his people on the streets.....what happens? More Violence and probably a Civil War. If the military takes over, what happens? The entire system gets wrapped up, your institutions, and everything else, semi built, go back to pre-2000.

How about foreign investments? No country, including your best friend China, has ever invested into Pakistan with a military running it. How would the military deal with the external pressure from the US (possible sanctions) and a semi-war on the border on both sides of your country?

And let's say, the military takes over and does elections (guaranteed pressure from the UN and observers from the UN will be present or sanctions, its that simple), well...who'd WIN? And what would Mr. Khan do if Mr. Sharif wins again? (Which, per recent surveys done by the US show he will). So you are back to square zero! But the loss to the country in this time will be countless, probably a few hundreds of billions and an upcoming economic era gone forever with CPEC, etc, out of the door.

Please enlighten me if I missed something from my analysis. May be you know more than what I've researched. Thanks

 

[HAIDER]

Sir, to be frank with you, do you know what Mr. Khan is after? I doubt he knows because his acts make no logical sense or even show any benefit to him. Here is why I said this.

If Mr. Sharif doesn't leave, what would happen? More violence. If he decides to bring hundreds of thousands of his people on the streets.....what happens? More Violence and probably a Civil War. If the military takes over, what happens? The entire system gets wrapped up, your institutions, and everything else, semi built, go back to pre-2000.

How about foreign investments? No country, including your best friend China, has ever invested into Pakistan with a military running it. How would the military deal with the external pressure from the US (possible sanctions) and a semi-war on the border on both sides of your country?

And let's say, the military takes over and does elections (guaranteed pressure from the UN and observers from the UN will be present or sanctions, its that simple), well...who'd WIN? And what would Mr. Khan do if Mr. Sharif wins again? (Which, per recent surveys done by the US show he will). So you are back to square zero! But the loss to the country in this time will be countless, probably a few hundreds of billions and an upcoming economic era gone forever with CPEC, etc, out of the door.

Please enlighten me if I missed something from my analysis. May be you know more than what I've researched. Thanks

Today Saleem Safi journalist show extreme grievances over CPEC. How Nawaz Shareef took over CPEC and diverted toward Punjab,. specially Lahore. He raise the question what we have being small province.

 

[DJ_Viper]

Today Saleem Safi journalist show extreme grievances over CPEC. How Nawaz Shareef took over CPEC and diverted toward Punjab,. specially Lahore. He raise the question what we have being small province.

Sir, I don't know who this guys is. But rest assured, the CPEC has made headlines in the West. From what I know, the CPEC actually benefits all of Pakistan's states equally, in fact, the Baluchistani state more than others as its initiated from it. I in fact watched a recent presentation of the Chinese envoy to the UN when India accused them of using "disputed territory". So you are listening to the wrong person.

Why is it that even people living in the West now know that Pakistan is one of the top growth countries, but people like you, living in Pakistan don't? I think you should start to put your country over your political engagements. A country is above all, without it, people who gained independence, would still be slaves. I would still drinking "Tea" instead of "Coffee" if you know what I mean. Thanks.

 

[Divergent]

I'm not a fan of Nawaz Sharif. But I do feel this whole 'Islamabad Lockdown' isn't a wise move

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

added the element of violence that never existed before to this degree in Pakistan

Violence has always existed in South Asia's Political upheaval, it's not new.

Sir, to be frank with you, do you know what Mr. Khan is after? I doubt he knows because his acts make no logical sense or even show any benefit to him. Here is why I said this.

 

[war&peace]

Now it is time for people of Pakistan to get rid of patwaris-goons. These disgraceful creatures are below the lowest rank of all the creatures.

 

[DJ_Viper]

Violence has always existed in South Asia's Political upheaval, it's not new.

Thank you Sir. I don't know if you really liked what I wrote, or, my post was so dumb you tried to make fun of me, either way, I appreciate it . The last thing we can do, is to bring hostility among people, when we can all talk with sense. This is applicable on the political scenario that has a high risk of violence, and further suffering of the poor.

Also, I read your post about "violence has always been a part of the South Asian politics". With all due respect sir, just because I've made mistakes all my life, and one day realized that those "wise moves" were actually mistakes, doesn't make it right for me to continue to make them for the rest of my life. Maturity comes with age, experiences and care for others. If Mr. Khan exhibits that, I am sure it would benefit his vote bank, the people of Pakistan and the system inside Pakistan. He can still be successful the right way. But it appears, he doesn't want to wait.

Short cuts don't take you from a highway, they take you from back alleys, and usually, the back alleys have bad stuff going on in them, you don't want to get stuck in a back alley trying to take a short cut, when you could've made it to your destination with a little wait on the highway. Thanks

 

[ejaz007]

Do you think NS will leave without agitation ?...Six month parliamentarian fought for Panama leak TOR, but Govt party insist to start from 1947.....is it really a joke or what.

Whats wrong with starting from 1947. Let do this exercise once and for ever. Kick all those out who have done corruption and start fresh.

Sir, to be frank with you, do you know what Mr. Khan is after? I doubt he knows because his acts make no logical sense or even show any benefit to him. Here is why I said this.

If Mr. Sharif doesn't leave, what would happen? More violence. If he decides to bring hundreds of thousands of his people on the streets.....what happens? More Violence and probably a Civil War. If the military takes over, what happens? The entire system gets wrapped up, your institutions, and everything else, semi built, go back to pre-2000.

How about foreign investments? No country, including your best friend China, has ever invested into Pakistan with a military running it. How would the military deal with the external pressure from the US (possible sanctions) and a semi-war on the border on both sides of your country?

And let's say, the military takes over and does elections (guaranteed pressure from the UN and observers from the UN will be present or sanctions, its that simple), well...who'd WIN? And what would Mr. Khan do if Mr. Sharif wins again? (Which, per recent surveys done by the US show he will). So you are back to square zero! But the loss to the country in this time will be countless, probably a few hundreds of billions and an upcoming economic era gone forever with CPEC, etc, out of the door.

Please enlighten me if I missed something from my analysis. May be you know more than what I've researched. Thanks

The problem is who is going to get this information into thick head of Imran Khan.

 

[MastanKhan]

Today Saleem Safi journalist show extreme grievances over CPEC. How Nawaz Shareef took over CPEC and diverted toward Punjab,. specially Lahore. He raise the question what we have being small province.

Hi,

People should get it by now----Lahore route for CPEC means that indian military would have a mettaled road direct access to the border of china---and can be there within hours if Nawaz Sharif allowed it.

There is no reason for the Lahore route for CPEC.

Still plenty of time for bargaining between politicians. Looks like someone didn't want that to happen. Isn't this the beginning of martial law - and eventually, another military coup?

Hi,

It should have happened 2 years ago and elections held---.

You cannot make chicken soup our of chicken sh-it as much as you try.

 

[Mansoon]

Mr. Khan should go to courts,

When have courts delivered justice?

 

[DJ_Viper]

The problem is who is going to get this information into thick head of Imran Khan.

Sir, I am obviously no expert in Pakistani politics. But using my common sense, and some education I've been through, I'd imagine this isn't the responsibility of one person to put into Mr. Khan's head, the majority of the responsibility goes to his party's leadership and on the people supporting violence.

No matter how certain people feel, they obviously know they didn't win a majority, and by resorting to violence there isn't one good outcome of this situation. If its personal and he wants Mr. Sharif out, then that's one thing. What's next? Nothing, more violence, drama, loss and damage to a poor nation. On the other hand, if he wants to "fight" the system like he claims, well, he has hard work to do. He has to win the majority and violence, lock-downs, etc, won't get you that.

So his party members and people supporting him have to tell him "no violence" and no "lock-downs" or disruption of a running government. He has to win more people to get the majority and a bigger vote bank without violence.

 

[Mrc]

People should get it by now----Lahore route for CPEC means that indian military would have a mettaled road direct access to the border of china---and can be there within hours if Nawaz Sharif allowed it.

There is no reason for the Lahore route for CPEC.

That route is longer but most secure and only one feasible as all the fascilities like hotels etc exist...other purposed routes especially western one is not even travelled by tribals let alone chinese

Indian army shud try to make a surgical strike against pak first before going to chinese border...

This is one of the most stupid thing i have heard throughout my short but colorfull life