Imran Khan Announces to give Pak Citizenship to Afghan Refugees

[El Sidd]

It needs resources, rehabilitation of foreign people when our own are suffering in interior Sindh, Balochistan, Punjab and FATA?

We wasted 40 years, migration to Madina didn't just happen in one single night, it was planned, discussed. And who in their right minds lets the refugees spread all over the country, including the Capital. I can find you Afghan refugees in a small city like Chakwal.

Legislation should be robust and thorough that is a given.

The definitions of refugee, migrant or naturalized are actually given in the constitution. It is a very hard decision but i honestly believe we have to do this to make a fresh start at things.

 

[padamchen]

From a historical point that takes a long term look the model below is accurate. The Indus Valley has always been a flux zone between two world. A unique convergence. And Pakistan is the direct successor to this histo-geographic reality.

I mean it was not like even the British Raj was sealed off from the west. I am sure you know about the continous wars on the 'frontier' and the great game between Britain and Russia with Persia as the junior player. Peshwar was the bridgehead for this and Rawalpindi the logistic and marshalling yard for this effort. Rawalpindi's importance in the Raj was as the Northern Command of the army which was largest active command of the British Empire. It's remit was the Afghan. Iranic, Central Asia regions. In 1947 Rawalpindi Command HQ become Pakistan Army HQ.

And the underlying dynamic of geography and history has continued.

France (and the Dutch?) too from what little I have gleaned.

Cheers, Doc

 

[I.R.A]

Legislation should be robust and thorough that is a given.

Pakistan mainly suffers because of lack of implementation and enforcing the laws. Any new law is as good as piece of papers unless State machinery enforces it.

The definitions of refugee, migrant or naturalized are actually given in the constitution. It is a very hard decision but i honestly believe we have to do this to make a fresh start at things.

With an inept system, thank you we don't need to further the mess .......... after reforms yes please sort out this once and for all, Give them passports that clearly restricts and prohibits their travel to Afghanistan.

 

[monitor]

For Bengali people citizenship is must as we fought together for Pakistan. For the Afghan they came here for civil war in their country . As war have almost over they should return to their Homeland except those born in Pakistan if majority of Pakistanis support .

 

[Great Brahmin]

Lol Pashtuns/Afghans played their cards right.

They are the new Kings of Pakistan after fall of Durranis.

One thing I noticed when I Talk to Pashtuns from either Afghanistan or Pakistan is that they denial to identify as Pakistani/Indic. They always claim to be part of afghanistan even if they belong to Pakistani areas like Peshawar, Bannu, Attock etc.

The amount of racism they show to Punjabis, Kashmiris and Sindhis is disgusting frankly. Calling them "Hindwans"/Indic and Hindu are their regular way to show how much they hate Indic Pakistanis or consider them inferior.
You can see same behavior in Majority Pashtun or Taking forums.

Even New PM Imran Khan Niazi is a proud Pashtun and have written some books honoring his people.he always says proudly I am pashtun and we are greatest in every interview even in India.

I waswas sure but this move cemented this,he sees himself as Pashtun/Afghan first Pakistani later.

This will only help Afghanistan, India and US.

 

[padamchen]

Lol Pashtuns/Afghans played their cards right.

They are the new Kings of Pakistan after fall of Durranis.

One thing I noticed when I Talk to Pashtuns from either Afghanistan or Pakistan is that they denial to identify as Pakistani/Indic. They always claim to be part of afghanistan even if they belong to Pakistani areas like Peshawar, Bannu, Attock etc.

The amount of racism they show to Punjabis, Kashmiris and Sindhis is disgusting frankly. Calling them "Hindwans"/Indic and Hindu are their regular way to show how much they hate Indic Pakistanis or consider them inferior.
You can see same behavior in Majority Pashtun or Taking forums.

This will only help Afghanistan, India and US.

Yeah, but the same "racists" are treated worse than dirt on equally racist Iranian forums. Beggars and destitutes and househelps and whores being what I have heard.

I think this racism sweeps west to east in the region.

It stops at India/Bangladesh, because after us the Mongoloids start. A different genetic template altogether.

Cheers, Doc

 

[El Sidd]

Pakistan mainly suffers because of lack of implementation and enforcing the laws. Any new law is as good as piece of papers unless State machinery enforces it.

and there lies the problem which is being correctly addressed. Hopefully supremacy of law will be upheld for everyone.

With an inept system, thank you we don't need to further the mess .......... after reforms yes please sort out this once and for all, Give them passports that clearly restricts and prohibits their travel to Afghanistan.

Oh rest assure this is ill timed vocalization of thought by the Prime Minister but i hope his legislature team is at it.

 

[Great Brahmin]

Yeah, but the same "racists" are treated worse than dirt on equally racist Iranian forums. Beggars and destitutes and househelps and whores being what I have heard.

I think this racism sweeps west to east in the region.

It stops at India/Bangladesh, because after us the Mongoloids start. A different genetic template altogether.

Cheers, Doc

Lol must be True. I don't care about pathans, I am just enjoying this circus like you.

I agree Racism starts from Scandinavia and ends at Bangladesh. From North To South East.

What do you think will happen next ?

 

[padamchen]

What do you think will happen next ?

Punjabis told that enough of their family drama. Time to move on and get with the program.

Cheers, Doc

 

[I.R.A]

Don't indians get tired of putting too much importance to themselves, for them commenting on any Pakistani internal matter is like a holy job. Go people get yourself busy with obeying your supreme court orders, put yourself or your ****** to some use.

In past it was we know Afghans better than Pakistanis, and now it's we know Pakistanis better than Pakistanis themselves.

Commenting on racism of Pakistanis .......... and the name chosen for himself is "Great Brahmin" ...... yep racism ends at borders of india ........ a mob living as a nation.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

The only strategic advantage from this movie to me is to have maximum Afghan Pashtoons as Pakistanis before Afghanistan may break into further chaos and possibly disintegration, especially the way things going on there. This may well be one of the reason for this move all a sudden. IK just had briefings in GHQ and ISI headquarters and from no where this decision.

 

[dilpakistani]

Bengalies are fine... Afghan Namak haramooon ko Nationality is an anti Pakistan step and khan sb is committing suicide. Pakistan Army will never be on board for this

 

[Pakistani E]

Always reckoned IK had an ethnic bias, this kind of confirms it. Afghans are very dear to him, what about the Pakistani Biharis still stranded in East Pakistan? You know, the ones who fought and died for you instead of the ones he's welcoming who killed our jawans and children?

Punjabis told that enough of their family drama.

You betray your complete ignorance of this issue if you think only Punjabis will get riled up about this. I suggest you visit Balouchistan and ask the Balouch, or Sindhis, or Urdu speakers or Gilgitis about what they think of Afghan immigrants/refugees.

 

[padamchen]

Don't indians get tired of putting too much importance to themselves, for them commenting on any Pakistani internal matter is like a holy job. Go people get yourself busy with obeying your supreme court orders, put yourself or your ****** to some use.

In past it was we know Afghans better than Pakistanis, and now it's we know Pakistanis better than Pakistanis themselves.

Commenting on racism of Pakistanis .......... and the name chosen for himself is "Great Brahmin" ...... yep racism ends at borders of india ........ a mob living as a nation.

Truth be told, we are facing a very similar issue with millions of Bangladeshis in our country.

So yes, this discussion is very relevant. Not to mention, we have very old and very strong civilizational ties with both Afghans and Iran.

You breaking away and being in the middle is a serious impediment for us.

So yes, don't know about other Indians, but I shall most definitely continue to debate here. Within the rules of course.

Cheers, Doc

Always reckoned IK had an ethnic bias, this kind of confirms it. Afghans are very dear to him, what about the Pakistani Biharis still stranded in East Pakistan? You know, the ones who fought and died for you instead of the ones he's welcoming who killed our jawans and children?



You betray your complete ignorance of this issue if you think only Punjabis will get riled up about this. I suggest you visit Balouchistan and ask the Balouch, or Sindhis, or Urdu speakers or Gilgitis about what they think of Afghan immigrants/refugees.

Don't take it literally. You could substitute Punjabi with desi ...

I was talking big regional picture. Refer back to my exchange with Indus and Soul to get the context.

Cheers, Doc

 

[I.R.A]

Truth be told, we are facing a very similar issue with millions of Bangladeshis in our country.

Saudis may think same about indian low paid workers in their country. If you stop their harem supplies.

So yes, this discussion is very relevant. Not to mention, we have very old and very strong civilizational ties with both Afghans and Iran.

Nostalgia ....... empires have emerged and drowned in whirlpool of time with all their pride and glory. Afghanistan is war torn country today, a hot bed for rag tag militias, and iran is a sanctioned country struggling to suppress the dissenting voice of its own populace.

Your's is a country where people sh*t in open. What ties are you talking about?

You breaking away and being in the middle is a serious impediment for is.

Live with it, india being 7 times bigger can only dream on. we are reality in today's world more stronger than your Afghan and iran civilizations.