IAF wants 50 more Sukhois to counter China, Pakistan

[Moscow]

why Chinese no longer order any of your flankers?
why Su-27sk is regarded as junk by Chinese?
why when your president offered Su-35, we just said no?

sure, engines are another issue, it can take us another 10 years to gain 100% independent supply, however we will just do it, pay the price and do it.

russia now should consider to import some of our cj-10 to replace your shitty kh-55 ****.

File:CJ-10 naval.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ha ha ha

do some research before you open your mouth my friend
i care a damn about what the chinese think about the flankers
get out of your living room and see what the world thinks about the flanker
now mkk were denied to you dont crap about this russia s not willing to sell mkks to you because you are on the look out to make some cheap copy of these

you denied su35 because su30mki bock 3 to be supplied to india would be in the same parameters with the bm

do some more taking about al31 engines dont even try to compare the al31 with your non-performing ws10

take a friendly advice from a friend dont open your mouth firther you are becoming a laughing stalk with your comments and remember russia is not your enemy we are the biggest trading partners, the sco founders and bric founders jointly so stop bragging and post logically

 

[aimarraul]

j-11B is licenced fighter jets ，china bought the production line from russia ,we upgraded it ourself,and never sell it to other countries,nothing wrong with it

 

[aimarraul]

A.V ,it's very funny that you only show up when indians need a russian friend.....welcome back,i think indians know very well if russia abide by the contract，it's always two way street^_^

 

[beckham]

A.V ,it's very funny that you only show up when indians need a russian friend.....welcome back

A friend in need is a friend indeed !!

 

[aimarraul]

A friend in need is a friend indeed !!

i am just worry that someone is spliting his personality

 

[grey boy 2]

A.V ,it's very funny that you only show up when indians need a russian friend.....welcome back,i think indians know very well if russia abide by the contract，it's always two way street^_^

Brother; He is an Indian, thats why.

 

[MZUBAIR]

SU-30 MKI is not superior in ASIA....
There are comparable and few more bater jets in ASIA then MKI.


Su-30MKK , F-15 Eagle, Shenyang J-11, Chengdu J-10 Vigorous Dragon, SU-27and F-16 .

 

[beckham]

SU-30 MKI is not superior in ASIA....
There are comparable and few more bater jets in ASIA then MKI.


Su-30MKK , F-15 Eagle, Shenyang J-11, Chengdu J-10 Vigorous Dragon, SU-27and F-16 .

I would really appreciate if you tell me how the above mentioned fighters are comparable and some 'better' than MKI !
Hope you don't chicken out like other trolls !

Let me help you with the first one.....

My standard post for MKK vs MKI !

Su-30MKK

Su-30MKK 503(yellow)

Crew: 2

Unit cost: US $53 million

Max takeoff weight: 34,500 kg

Powerplant: 2× Lyulka AL-31F turbofans, 123 kN (27,600 lbf)[9] each

Maximum Speed : Never exceed speed: Mach 2.5

Radar: 1 × NIIP N001VEP fire-control radar (PESA)

Role: All-weather, long-range strike fighter

Range: 3,000 km

Thrust/weight: 1

Rate of climb: > 305 m/s

+ jointly developed by Russia and China

+ M400 reconnaissance pod developed by china be used to detect the blind spot behind the aircraft to provide targeting information for rearward-firing air-to-air missiles, but this capability has not been utilized by the Chinese yet.

SU-30 MKI

Crew: 2

Unit cost: US $40 million

Max takeoff weight: 38,800 kg (85,600 lb)

Powerplant: 2× Lyulka AL-31FP turbofans with thrust vectoring, 131 kN (29,449 lbf) each

Maximum speed: Mach 2.35

Radar: N011M Bars (Panther) (PESA)

Role: Multi-role aircraft

Range: 5,000 km and 8,000 km at a cruise height of 11 to 13 km with air refueling system

Thrust/weight: 1.07 (at loaded weight & 1.15 with 50% fuel)

Rate of climb: > 355 m/s

+ canard increases the aircraft lifting ability and allow high angle-of-attack (AoA)

+ avionics sourced from Russia, France, Israel and India

+ radar range of 60 km in the rear hemisphere

+ N011M has a 350 km search range and a maximum 200 km tracking range The radar can track 15 air targets and engage four simultaneously. These targets can even include cruise missiles and motionless helicopters. The Su-30MKI can function as a mini-AWACS as a director or command post for other aircraft. The target co-ordinates can be transferred automatically to at least four other aircraft. The radar can detect ground targets such as tanks at 40–50 km.

+ A modified Su-30MKI is being used to carry BrahMos cruise missiles with 300 km.

+N011M can function in air-to-air and air-to-land/sea mode simultaneously while being tied into a high-precision laser-inertial or GPS navigation system.

+built-in single-barrel GSh-301 gun

 

[beckham]

korea F15K?

Can you provide me some info on F15K ?

 

[duhastmish]

Can you provide me some info on F15K ?

Boeing: Integrated Defense Systems - F-15K Republic of Korea Home


The F-15K strike fighter is the newest variant of the combat-proven F-15E. Equipped with the latest technological upgrades, it is more lethal, survivable, and maintainable than its predecessor.

light and Weapon Systems

The F-15K is the only U.S.-produced fighter capable of long-range precision strike missions without escort, day or night, in any weather.

* Maximum gross takeoff weight and payload: 81,000 pounds and 23,000 pounds
* Maximum combat radius without refueling: over 1,000 nautical miles (1,800 km)
* Minimum altitude and maximum speed of terrain-following flight: 600 knots at 100 feet
* Power: two GE F110 turbofan engines (29,000 lb thrust class with afterburning)
* A mix of air-to-air weaponry: 20mm cannon; AIM-120, AIM-9, AIM-7, and AGM-130 missiles
* A mix of air-to-ground ordnance, including precision-guided munitions

Computer and Targeting Systems

The F-15K possesses advanced computer, display, protection, radar, and targeting systems:

* Avionics suite: Honeywell advanced display core processor (ADCP)
* Cockpit-display technologies: seven-color liquid-crystal displays, two upfront control panels (flat-panel), joint helmet-mounted cueing system (JHMCS), and wide-field-of-view head-up display
* On-board protection systems: BAE Systems ALR-56C(v)1 early warning receiver and Northrop Grumman ALQ-135M jammer
* Radar: Raytheon AN/APG-63(v)1 radar:
o Air-to-air and air-to-ground modes of APG-70 radar with additional sea-surface searching/tracking, ground-moving target tracking, and enhanced high-resolution ground mapping for long-distance target identification
o Improved reliability and maintainability
* Third-generation targeting and navigation systems: forward-looking infrared (FLIR) and infrared search and track (IRST)

Performance

The F-15 family has a combat record of 101 victories and zero losses, and the F-15E predecessor flew thousands of combat missions during Operation Desert Storm and in the Balkans.

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its same old - f-15 with some - powder and lipstick makeup

to provide - some of their lap baby - like korea. who dont really have other options than goign for american aircrafts.

and american give them what they wish. loool

but bekham these trolls are idiots - dont feed them - we all know - the great chinese fighter which they claim to be super fighter - but no country is willign to buy them - even if they give them on soft loan - unless they dont have any other option.

pakistan knows thier best fighter is still f-16 and thats one fighter which give them sigh of relief + their good pilots.

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yes these f-15 might not be comparable to out su-30 mki, or mig-29 or mirage but they are surely super cool -and a whole generation ahead to cheap - copy Chinese - flying rust boxes.

 

[beckham]

Thanks duhastmish !

 

[SBD-3]

ha ha ha


take a friendly advice from a friend dont open your mouth firther you are becoming a laughing stalk with your comments and remember russia is not your enemy we are the biggest trading partners, the sco founders and bric founders jointly so stop bragging and post logically

Btw will you care to tell from where did the Russia got this tech? See for your self

Now dont tell me that Russians were born with AC designs in their head divinely.Every country has developed over the other (including US) so every thing is fair and square
I dont know why do you people cry on what Chinese do?

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

Btw will you care to tell from where did the Russia got this tech? See for your self

Now dont tell me that Russians were born with AC designs in their head divinely.Every country has developed over the other (including US) so every thing is fair and square
I dont know why do you people cry on what Chinese do?

I think shchinese went overboard in belittling other nations' capabilities. That arrogant thinking is un-representative of Chinese.

Now let's get back on topic. IAF is mistakenly viewing China and Pakistan as enemies, because of their unwillingness to fairly settle the land disputes (because they dream of a even bigger Ahkand Bharat). One major source of this unwillingness to cooperate stems from envy and over-population.

There are many areas that are under-populated where India can contract out farmland, mineral mines, etc:

1) most of Africa

2) Siberia

3) Oz, Canada, USA

4) South America

There's more than enough for everybody.

 

[haawk]

I think shchinese went overboard in belittling other nations' capabilities. That arrogant thinking is un-representative of Chinese.

Now let's get back on topic. IAF is mistakenly viewing China and Pakistan as enemies, because of their unwillingness to fairly settle the land disputes (because they dream of a even bigger Ahkand Bharat). One major source of this unwillingness to cooperate stems from envy and over-population.

There are many areas that are under-populated where India can contract out farmland, mineral mines, etc:

1) most of Africa

2) Siberia

3) Oz, Canada, USA

4) South America

There's more than enough for everybody.

good one..........envy and overpopulation..........wat a statement and solution............

mistakenly considering china and pak as enemies.......so far we ve only faught war with you guys.....

 

[shchinese]

I just feel sick for such brainwashing reports as:

we are going to have war with china by 2020
China is going to invade in 7 years
IAF wants 50 more Sukhois to counter China, Pakistan

let's make it no mistake:
by keep telling such crap to the people of india, it successfully proves india wants to be the neo-nazi of asia.