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A limited strike at the basic infrastructure across the LoC (at camps which now have less of Kashmiris and majority Afghan/Somali/Ethiopian fighters) will serve both the Indian govt as also Pakistani govt.
IAF may have approached the border and may have crossed the line at some point but I dont think it was anything more than the technical aspect or maybe maximum to check the SAM radar locations as also the CAP pattern of PAF.
One thing I would like to point to readers here is that you can not determine if an AC is armed or not in the short span of time given
Hi. I have been following this thread in your forum for quite some time and it is an interesting read. I also regularly follow the Bharat Rakshak and posts on Live Fist, but have never contributed. Anyways this is hopefully my first.
What I can make out of the whole controversy is:
a. The combat readiness of IAF (in terms of updates in strength, limited cutrailment of leaves etc.) is in posture of limited strikes on fundamentalist camps located in Pakistan. At the same time defensive posturing for possible Pakistani retaliation is seen. The issue out of this is the timing and the political mandate and objectives given to the IAF. A limited strike at the basic infrastructure across the LoC (at camps which now have less of Kashmiris and majority Afghan/Somali/Ethiopian fighters) will serve both the Indian govt as also Pakistani govt.
b. The public posturing of Pakistan antagonist to Indian demands seems more like for domestic consumption and Indian rhetoric to match the same is for same purposes in India. There seems to be a tacit understanding about Pakistan taking actions slowly (the civil government is not as strong as one would like it to be and Military still calls the shots) The fact that international community as a whole is now set against Pakistan and insists full compliance with demands made, indicates that odds are not in favor of Pakistan. This was reinforced by Pakistani threat to remove troops from NWFP and FATA to deploy on eastern border thus rendering NATO supply lines unprotected. While this threat may have seemed to have worked for now, the possibility of Pakistan overplaying this is too risky to ignore. With Obama pledging to fill Afghanistan with US troops, the next US administration will not hesitate to secure its supply lines and may occupy areas in NWFP and FATA to ensure security if the same is done. Also this time India may simulaneously apply pressure on East, leaving Pakistan little room to maneuver. All these calculations must have entered into Pakistani leaderships mind when they decided to downplay he IAF incident as also agreed to initially send DG ISI as also to place under arrest all suspects. The volte face now may be due to Army/ISI pressure (?)
3. IAF may have approached the border and may have crossed the line at some point but I dont think it was anything more than the technical aspect or maybe maximum to check the SAM radar locations as also the CAP pattern of PAF. Initially Pak media claimed two or more Indian ACs including in this forum I have seen of SU-30. But the official report from Pak Air HQs state same AC crossed two times in different sector. Typical Indian type scenario here. Contradicting your own self. One thing I would like to point to readers here is that you can not determine if an AC is armed or not in the short span of time given or simply by radar until and unless PAF ACs were directly overhead or in proximity of less than 1 km from IAF AC in which case they were poor pilots to have let IAF AC(s) get away (which I doubt PAF is).
4. With recent turn in events (IAF has relocated its Mig-29s back from Hindon to their strips) I still am wary that IAF may just launch a limited strike if the GoI has the guts to take the hard decision. GoPs statements over the two days have not been very encouraging and it might be in the offing.
Why is Pakistan doing so many U-turns?
ISI Chief - No ISI Chief
Arrest JuD leaders - release JuD leaders
IAF "intrusion" unintentional technical fault - IAF "intrusion" deliberate.
Make up your minds already!!
Why is Pakistan doing so many U-turns?
ISI Chief - No ISI Chief
Arrest JuD leaders - release JuD leaders
IAF "intrusion" unintentional technical fault - IAF "intrusion" deliberate.
Make up your minds already!!
see your indian U- TURNS
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alqida involve=dawood ibraheem involve=pakistan =isi =bangladesh =LET=al-dawa= taliban=
its looking whole world involve in bombay
we have proove=we can't show proove
What you have quoted are media reports, what Flinto has quoted are your President's statements. There is difference between President of a country and enthusiast reporter.
lol our president has said to release JUD leaders and that IAF intrusions were deliberate? i havent heard of anything as such.
Pakistan has officially lodged complaint that IAF intrusion was deliberate, contrary to what your President said
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If you arent aware pal, PAF is already taking against the terrorist camps in our side...Thanks , but NO thanks for your offer
Tech aspect!!! What tech aspects? Was there a westerly tail wind, or the pilot didnt calculate his rate and radius of turn properly, or his flight controls were frozen or his navigation equipment was broken while he decided to take border flying or was he just drinking in the cockpit or he was just lost anyway ??? Please explain exactly that what tech aspect made him to cross the IB???
Secondly, SAM location or CAP pattern can be known while remaining well inside your own side. One doesnt need come close to IB to find these things
I agree It was a media hype perhaps