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IAF to induct 15 indigenously-built 'Saras' light transport aircraft


Sunday 15 November 2009

The indigenous aircraft programme has got a boost with the Indian Air Force planning to induct the light transport aircraft Saras into its fleet.

The IAF is in the process of placing orders for acquiring 15 aircraft developed by the National Aerospace Laboratories (NAL), Bangalore, official sources said.

The IAF order is considered to be a shot in the arm for NAL. A prototype of the 14-seater aircraft had crashed during a test flight in March, killing three persons onboard.

"The IAF has already finalised that Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) will be manufacturing the aircraft and the firm order will be placed with the NAL by year-end," a source said.

This transport aircraft has suffered delays for a decade due to design flaws, an under-powered engine, excess take-off weight and non-availability of components following the 1998 sanctions imposed by the US.

However, when contacted, NAL Director A R Upadhya said that the new aircraft will have better engines that pack more power and engineers have also succeeded in reducing the total weight of the aircraft by 500 kg.

The earlier prototypes were heavier by at least 500 kg, thus leading to operational difficulties.
Upadhya said that a Commission of Inquiry has been investigating into the crash of the Saras prototype and the report is expected in another three weeks. Upadhya said the NAL Saras is a multi-role aircraft, ideal for executive transport, light package carrier, remote sensing and aerial research service, coast guard, border patrolling, air ambulance and other community services.

Saras is equipped with two rear-mounted turbo-prop Pratt and Whitney engines in a pusher propeller configuration and is designed to take off from and land on short, semi-prepared runways.

It is designed to carry between eight and 14 passengers and can be extended to an 19-passenger variant in multiple modes of operation.


The two prototypes of Saras, named after the Indian crane, have flown at least 100 hours since its maiden flight in May 2004 till the crash of prototype-II in March.

Engineers at NAL are now building another prototype which is expected to be flight tested next year. NAL expected the aircraft to be certified by 2010.

Saras is only the second plane after Hansa, a two-seater trainer aircraft, that is being developed indigenously.

NAL is also working on designing a 70-seat passenger aircraft called the RTA-70 for regional transport.

IAF to induct 15 indigenously-built Saras aircraft

Take out the Pratt-Whitney engine and then say what will happen to our indi-plane. on a scale of 1-10 india is probably at 2 as far being indigenous is concerend, so lets quit the crap.
 
Take out the Pratt-Whitney engine and then say what will happen to our indi-plane. on a scale of 1-10 india is probably at 2 as far being indigenous is concerend, so lets quit the crap.

Engine is core component of any aviation. India is trying build indigenous engines but is facing technical problems. Example is kaveri. Probably it will take time.
 
What is this copy of?
Really anyone can say what they want. As long as its productionised, deployed and is utilised well, we would have saved a lot of money , probably make some by selling to other countries we should be happy. gaddha ho ya ghoda, maal sahi jagah pahunchni chahiye.
 
In modern days almost all the scientific developments and research ends up in military hands………I am glad to see an aircraft, which will not carry bombs and it's a good looking plane……….my best wishes for this type of work in future for you guys…….and of course for all the countries……..!!!!!!
 
What is this copy of?

For sure :cheesy: It's not a copy of JF 17 so you can relax....:P :rofl::rofl:

You can say it is a copy of oil tanker on which Indian scientists have put wings and engine to make it fly. But at the end, we have our own light transport aircraft.

Come on WebMaster, I was not expecting this from you.:disagree:
 
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For sure :cheesy: It's not a copy of JF 17 so you can relax....:P :rofl::rofl:

You can say it is a copy of oil tanker on which Indian scientists have put wings and engine to make it fly. But at the end, we have our own light transport aircraft.

Come on WebMaster, I was not expecting this from you.:disagree:

Talk about patience.U ignored other conjragulation posts.and drag a single post to Russia.AFREEN:cool:
 
Talk about patience.U ignored other conjragulation posts.and drag a single post to Russia.AFREEN:cool:

Thanks for your congratulations :smitten:

This reply was for WebMaster to clarify his concerns :cheesy:
 
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Why is it that all the test planes in shitty green / Yellow colour ? Any particualar reason
 
Firefighter, its never a shame to accept the truth, and as you also agree, we have the potential, its a matter of time and commitement

I don't buy this "indegeniously built" mentality. How could you spend so much money that out dated in design and not even worth the quality? Yes, you might benefit with knowledge and expertise, but the cost is way too high, you'd never have any comparative edge over others.

Rather build planes with partnership with other countries. Develop and exchange technologies to have a comparative edge over others. The whole idea of "reinventing the wheel" so to speak just to give it a indigenious colour is really stupid IMO and defies laws of science and modern economics.
 
I don't buy this "indegeniously built" mentality. How could you spend so much money that out dated in design and not even worth the quality? Yes, you might benefit with knowledge and expertise, but the cost is way too high, you'd never have any comparative edge over others.

Rather build planes with partnership with other countries. Develop and exchange technologies to have a comparative edge over others. The whole idea of "reinventing the wheel" so to speak just to give it a indigenious colour is really stupid IMO and defies laws of science and modern economics.

Hi,

What do you mean by ‘so much money’? Can you please elaborate?

The total project cost of Saras is Rs. 131.38 crores. NAL/HAL have pegged the cost per aircraft at Rs. 39.4 crores. IAF has already placed an order for 15 aircrafts, meaning the very first order for the aircraft will amount to Rs. 591 crores – more than 4 times the development cost recovered from the very first order! The IAF is also expected to place a follow on order for 30 more Saras aircrafts to replace its ageing fleet of Dorniers, which will take the total revenues for HAL/NAL to Rs. 1773 crores from IAF alone. Moreover, such an aircraft is ideal for executive transport, light package carrier, remote sensing and aerial research service, coast guard, border patrolling, air ambulance and other community services (see the original article). If marketed properly, it has a potential of bringing huge revenues to the developer and manufacturer.

Coming to the quality part – the fact that IAF has already placed firm orders for 15 of these even before the final prototype has taken to the skies should give you some indication about its quality. I am not claiming that it is the best in its class – at least not yet but the point is it needn’t be the best or in your words it needn’t have ‘any comparative edge over others’ coz it doesn’t have to compete with others – as long as it is reasonably priced, it will sell like hot cakes in one of the largest markets of the world!
 
I don't buy this "indegeniously built" mentality. How could you spend so much money that out dated in design and not even worth the quality? Yes, you might benefit with knowledge and expertise, but the cost is way too high, you'd never have any comparative edge over others.

Rather build planes with partnership with other countries. Develop and exchange technologies to have a comparative edge over others. The whole idea of "reinventing the wheel" so to speak just to give it a indigenious colour is really stupid IMO and defies laws of science and modern economics.

If you know meaning of self-reliant then it means this.
 
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