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According to the article, Vietnam can stop China's ADIZ by sacrificing its entire population in a massive land war! Go for it, mighty Viet!

I always believe that either Vietnam or india will be the instigators in case of a military conflict in the SCS. The US will provide all the logistics and intelligence. The US is too clever to get into a direct conflict with China at this point.
 
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I always believe that either Vietnam or india will be the instigators in case of a military conflict in the SCS. The US will provide all the logistics and intelligence. The US is too clever to get into a direct conflict with China at this point.

You're right, US is not going to sit there and watch. They will "indirectly" support this war.
 
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Of course YOU will make such a bet. YOUR life will not be at risk. You are the typical 'chickenhawk'.


And YOU understand war ? Do you even know the recoil of a .22 ?

Like you, he has expressed his opinion, it's just that he's more confident than you are. Why does he have to be a 'chickenhawk' for that?
 
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Like you, he has expressed his opinion, it's just that he's more confident than you are. Why does he have to be a 'chickenhawk' for that?

Because he's making statements without thinking other's lives/his own life. It's simple to say garbage like that but in reality, even Xi Jinping has to think twice.

That is not confidence, that is stupidity.
 
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If China declares SCS ADIZ, it has the capability to enforce it. Doesn't matter if other countries won't admit its existence, because it's there and planes that violates it get intercepted; just like the East China Sea ADIZ.

Vietnam does not have the capability to maintain a large ADIZ like this, all countries in the area can more or less ignore it.


Agree with what you have written in your post overall. Only additionally, the capacity building of Vietnam is already being undertaken, so you may be incorrect in your assessment here.
 
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Because he's making statements without thinking other's lives. It's simple to say garbage like that but in reality, even Xi Jinping has to think twice.

That is not confidence, that is stupidity.

What about the Vietnamese, shouldn't they think twice before trying to stop China in the SCS? Do they think about the lives of their soldiers when they advocate military conflict with China?
 
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Of course YOU will make such a bet. YOUR life will not be at risk. You are the typical 'chickenhawk'.


And YOU understand war ? Do you even know the recoil of a .22 ?

What are you talking about?

We never need a war in this part of the world. It only you TROUBLEMAKER from accross the Pacific making all these war rhetorics which incesasantly provocative and insensitive.

If you wanted a war, let choose a venue. I will pick USA since kids like you are so gungho!

Next when you guys are talking about a war with China and I merely demonstrate to you how silly your hawkish thoughts are especially when you underestimate your adversaries.

You don't even have answer to China weapon like the YJ-12 hypersonic ASHM, stratosphere DF-21D or DF-26 and now they have DF-ZF HGV and all you can talk about is how you fly a predate F-16 fighter. I am certainly NOT impressed by all these empty BOASTS of how superior USA is.
 
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What about the Vietnamese, shouldn't they think twice before trying to stop China in the SCS? Do they think about the lives of their soldiers when they advocate military conflict with China?

Do you see Vietnamese shooting missiles at those islands? or did you see anyone Vietnamese here said such things?
 
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Too much sabre rattling by keyboard warriors from a certain "who cares" country.

Vietnam should announce own ADIZ. With sanctions gone, rapid capacity building can happen.
 
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In my opinion, China will not be doing anything in near future. Apart from rhetoric from all concerned, not much will be done by the belligerent nations here.

All the navies are undertaking the right to navigate in SCS and China is not doing much about it, militarily. In the meantime, the capacity building of all stake holders will continue.

A very pertinent question has been raised by a member, can China afford to be seen as ignoring a treaty to which it is a party, and afford to not be seen as the pre-eminent power which is able to settle its disputes with its neighbours?

While majority of members here have posted about the relative economic strength of China as also the rapid advances it has made in military technology as also modernisation of its forces, one will still be hard pressed to claim that China is yet in a position wherein it can take on the rest of the world powers.

The major principle here which is being overlooked by members and NOT the Chinese leadership, is the fact that there is a convergence in the 'freedom of navigation' thought process of major powers, be it US, France, UK, Germany or immediate neighbours of China like Japan, Australia, India. Even Russia has a stake in the same, as it too uses these lines to make its presence felt in the Indian Ocean Region.

Taken collectively, the economic and military clout of this 'convergence of interest' derived group exceeds the Chinese economic and military might by many times. These powers will obviously continue to traverse the waters, increasingly in strength and sync with each other and with an increasing intent to enforce it if there is indeed a ratcheting up of the stakes in terms of military enforcement by China, and until and unless China is really willing to go to war over this issue, nothing much will come apart from near run ins, claims and counter claims, and a system of capacity building of neighbours of China with an aim to bridge the military technological gap in order to keep up the pressure on China.

These tactics have been employed earlier too, and quite effectively, and the result was the end of USSR.

"We"? YOU are nothing more or less than a single noob poster on this forum. Who do you think or claim that you are speaking for? For starters, show some history examples from, let's say, the past 500 years, to illustrate your claims.

I will post Indian claims to SCS then (the Cholas controlled it briefly):rofl:

And YOU understand war ? Do you even know the recoil of a .22 ?

You think? Out of xBox or PS, I doubt it..

Please read the above post.

Slowly this time.

He won't get it.

I always believe that either Vietnam or india will be the instigators in case of a military conflict in the SCS. The US will provide all the logistics and intelligence. The US is too clever to get into a direct conflict with China at this point.

No.India is not going to get into a confrontation with China nor China with India.

However, we shall continue the capacity building of Vietnam and enhance their ability to respond effectively to any threats. In this regards, you have to take into account a trend - in Myanmar, India lost ground when it decided to agree to US request to not deal with military junta. This allowed Chinese to gain an edge, the policy was immediately reversed, India effectively engaged the junta and diplomatic currency was used to ensure that US changed its policy to what it is today. That there has been progress as a democratic nation was an add on. Add the Indian diplomatic push with US over Iran and now Vietnam, and the change in US policies towards these nations.

There is a trend, where in India has been using its diplomatic currency to encourage US policy modifications ...
 
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Going by this Historical rule on SCS logic, Mongolia might as well claim SCS considering it's rule Rule over China.

The period was more than the current CPC regime.
 
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No.India is not going to get into a confrontation with China nor China with India.

However, we shall continue the capacity building of Vietnam and enhance their ability to respond effectively to any threats. In this regards, you have to take into account a trend - in Myanmar, India lost ground when it decided to agree to US request to not deal with military junta. This allowed Chinese to gain an edge, the policy was immediately reversed, India effectively engaged the junta and diplomatic currency was used to ensure that US changed its policy to what it is today. That there has been progress as a democratic nation was an add on. Add the Indian diplomatic push with US over Iran and now Vietnam, and the change in US policies towards these nations.

There is a trend, where in India has been using its diplomatic currency to encourage US policy modifications ...

Only a few words would have been sufficient to state it; india uses diplomacy to influence the US in her favour. We are not surprised.
 
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Only a few words would have been sufficient to state it; india uses diplomacy to influence the US in her favour. We are not surprised.

Nope. It is convergence of interest. And isn't war the violent means of diplomacy? Anyways, thanks for your input.
 
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Vietnamese are delusional, always believe digging tunnels will win the war. Don't take them seriously.

I also want to say declaring ADIZ is within our rights. Whether the VIETNAM want to declare is also their rights and we will not object nor fear their ADIZ.
 
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Going by this Historical rule on SCS logic, Mongolia might as well claim SCS considering it's rule Rule over China.

The period was more than the current CPC regime.

China ruled Mongolia far longer. If you want to include modern era, Congress or BJP regime would need another 931 years to claim legitimacy of India since the Greeks, Persians, Afghan, Turks, Mongols and British ruled India for abt 1000 years. I love your self-deprecating rhetoric.
 
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