How Muslims were massacred in Gujrat

[Dubious]

No it did not, That incident did change the perception of Muslims living in Gujarat, were Hindu's will fight back..... So, it was not the question of two wrongs, the question was one wrong was going on for too long, and the other faced it without retaliation!!!
The burning train was just the spark it needed to retaliate....

I have no idea of the situation of Gujarat before that train incident....who was going on and who was facing it...But I will take your word for it as I am out of this thread as my condition is fulfilled...My question answered

 

[syedali73]

Actually what you are stating is Kantian morality.It is just one of the branch of moral philosophy. Any act could be justified on basis of utilitarian principles as long as you could find a major benefit in that act.

When individuals are judged, you have various tools to judge morality of an act. But in case of groups, utilitarianism is best tool.



If we look at it in a cold, calm, and calculated manner; Riot did had strong justifications.

Godhra train burning was an unprovoked act of collective violence by Muslims. If not avenged in one manner or another, it would have set up a dangerous precedence and would has lead to repetition of these incidents in future. Terrorists are a very small problem in front of incessant bullying and political muscle flexing that would have been done by muslims, had they not been put in their proverbial place.

The only good that could have stopped this was if Justice was done by state in form of quick prosecution of perpetrators, which in context of India is .........meh.....

@WebMaster @Horus Do these terrorist apologists not deserve a permanent ban as do the IS apologists as per the forum policy?

This poster is accepting (and defending) the involvement of the state government in the anti-Muslim riots. If state had to do extra judicial and disproportionate 'justice' like this, what was/is the use of Police and judiciary? Note their boldness and shamelessness.

BTW, Justice Umesh Chandra Banerjee report categorically denied the involvement of Muslims based on a forensic report stating that the injuries on the victims were only compatible with an "internal fire." Since this report did not go in the favor of Hindutva fanatics, it was challenged in the High Court, which in October 2006 quashed the conclusions of Banerjee and ruled that the investigation was "unconstitutional, illegal and null and void", declared its formation to be a "colourable exercise of power with mala fide intentions", and its argument of accidental fire "opposed to the prima facie accepted facts on record." The High Court also directed that the report should not be tabled in the Parliament.

 

[Narashima]

I am not going to details but they certainly have only 3 options

1)cbse books
2)icse books
3)state board books.

All are propaganda free

what do you think they teach in madarssa and by the way there is a proposal for central madarsa board.

 

[he-man]

what do you think they teach in madarssa and by the way there is a central madarsa board.

I was talking about a hindu and sikh school.
Madrassas cannot be considered a school,sure they might be teaching bullshit.

I wa countering pakistanis view that we are teaching hindu propaganda in books/school which is certainly not true as i have studied bith icse(till 6 th) and then cbse(till 12 th)

 

[he-man]

@WebMaster @Horus Do these terrorist apologists not deserve a permanent ban as do the IS apologists as per the forum policy?

At least spare me of biased ban this time please.
Read my posts first.

 

[he-man]

I have no idea of the situation of Gujarat before that train incident....who was going on and who was facing it...But I will take your word for it as I am out of this thread as my condition is fulfilled...My question answered

I am sure u are the one who is secretly reporting my posts
Just admit it woman

 

[Narashima]

I was talking about a hindu and sikh school.
Madrassas cannot be considered a school,sure they migh be teaching bullshit.

I wa countering pakistanis view that we are teaching hindu propaganda in books/school which is certainly not true as i have studied bith icse(till 6 th) and then cbse(till 12 th)

there is no hindu school at the first place and there is no siikh school in punjab because they are not minority there. What i am saying is that it is possible to have religious teaching at schools but have to be minority for that.

 

[he-man]

there is no hindu school at the first place and there is no siikh school in punjab because they are not minority there. What i am saying is that it is possible to have religious teaching at schools but have to be minority for that.

Are u saying i am lying??
There is another person @danish_vij from my school albeit much junior who studied in the same ,yes,sikh school.
There are multiple christian missionary schools too.

We did have a subject called divinity where we were taught about sikhism and it was indeed compulsory for all.
Ask and confirm from him urself.

My school
MGN Public School, Adarsh Nagar, Jalandhar

 

[lavenge lavenge]

@WebMaster @Horus Do these terrorist apologists not deserve a permanent ban as do the IS apologists as per the forum policy?

This poster is accepting (and defending) the involvement of the state government in the anti-Muslim riots. If state had to do extra judicial and disproportionate 'justice' like this, what was/is the use of Police and judiciary? Note their boldness and shamelessness.

Logic Fail!

Comprehension fail!!

Low IQ poster!!!

Read that post again.

 

[jeypore]

It is simply amazing were this thread starts with, were a serious discussion is made and it ends up with some other discussion. The people in this forum must read and research more about the topic before just stating there opinion, by the way; Opinion are like as$H@L* s everyone has one!!!! So do not feel so special......

Today you ask any Muslim in India, Where are you most safest and prosperous? The answer will be Gujarat. So all you Hot shots, with your personal opinions, thinks this is wrong prove me wrong with some hard data........

 

[Narashima]

Are u saying i am lying??
There is another person @danish_vij from my school albeit much junior who studied in the same ,yes,sikh school.
There are multiple christian missionary schools too.

We did have a subject called divinity where we were taught about sikhism and it was indeed compulsory for all.
Ask and confirm from him urself.

My school
MGN Public School, Adarsh Nagar, Jalandhar

dude, do you really know the difference between a religious and non-religious school?
having a state board or any govt. affilated board doesn't make it a religious school.
and in which standard you had that subject?

 

[he-man]

dude, do you really know the difference between a religious and non-religious school?
having a state board or any govt. affilated board doesn't make it a religious school.
and in which standard you had that subject?

Its till 8 th standard.
May have changed now but having sikh history as subject with compulsory learning of schloks from granth sahib is religious.

Its another matter nothing offensive is taught vs anyone except mughals who are rightly labelled as oppressors.

 

[Narashima]

Its till 8 th standard.
May have changed now but having sikh history as subject with compulsory learning of schloks from granth sahib is religious.

Its another matter nothing offensive is taught vs anyone except mughals who are rightly labelled as oppressors.

we also had a subject on buddha and mughals were glorified in our books but that can't be called as religious school.
This is what you call a religious school.

Madrasa certificates issued by 5 state boards equivalent to CBSE | The Indian Express

 

[he-man]

we also had a subject on buddha and mughals were glorified in our books but that can't be called as religious school.
This is what you call a religious school.

Madrasa certificates issued by 5 state boards equivalent to CBSE | The Indian Express

Yeah this is indeed pathetic.
I am actually disappointed with modi that madarassas are not monitored or their syllabus regulated till now.

 

[Jazzbot]

Aww. Thanks for justifying the act like burning people alive only for some abstract rhetoric, tension and apprehension.

Brings back creation of Pakistan which was simply based on fear rather than ground facts. Some people never learn and then complain.

Talking about learning, that was my post for actually. But guess you guys won't learn to digest the truth.