How Muslims were massacred in Gujrat

[syedali73]

Maybe true,i admit.
But they have been neutralized and nipped in the bud.

Nope. Election of Modi as the PM of India is telling another story.

 

[he-man]

Nope. Election of Modi as the PM of India is telling another story.

U have decided so i cannot change ur mind on this.

 

[syedali73]

U have decided so i cannot change ur mind on this.

I have not, it is the Indian public that has decided to go down the path of Hindutva fanaticism through electing Modi as the PM of India. Tell me, except you,how many of your countrymen condemned the Bajran Dal terrorist for his confessed role in killing Muslims? Why was (still being) he defended so vehemently? Does this not tell you that those elements have not been neutralized and nipped in the bud?

 

[lavenge lavenge]

BY saying that doesnt mean you have answered it....

I will leave the question here so people can see how you claim to have answered



Source: How Muslims were massacred in Gujrat | Page 10

As i stated earlier, that question has already been answered here.

This is pretty stupid conjecture.

Muslims usually get away with committing violence in past, and add religious fervor which is equivalent to temporary insanity to the mix and you have a logical explanation of this deed.

And Muslims were 100% Majority in area where that Train was burnt . They were not outnumbered and were not under any threat of physical Harm.They fried those Kuffars alive in their religious Zeal.

This point is reinforced by complete absence of Riots in Gujarat after 2002. Since Hindus established that they have capacity to commit religious violence in the aftermath of Godhra, Muslims have behaved themselves and are acting logically. Before Godhra, it was a common belief ( it still is among vast swathe of muslims arond the world ) that infidel would not react.

to which supplementary questions have been asked here:

Usually people say that when they have no points left!


How is Insanity termed logical? So back to my question why would xyz attack abc only to have abc to kill xyz's family, friends and villages? ESP when abc outnumbers xyz....Think about it for a second!

What?

So HAMAS should continue and soon Israelis will behave themselves?

So 2 wrongs does do a right, is that what you are concluding?

Heck then how did this happen:

Basically your idea of logic is very illogical!

Which has been answered here:

What What?

Muslims are minority overall but they have areas/township where they are in absolute majority. The Township where Sabarmati express was burnt is one of such area.



The temprary insanity also called fervor that i am talking about is what grips Rugby and Football hooligans when they riot on manchester's streets after a football game. or Muslims after a good religious sermon by mullahs during Friday prayers.

And these people did not had a threat to their personal or their family's safety, at least in post 2002 Gujarat. They live in Islamic enclave. What harm could a night of infidel burning do to them?





Oh! HAMAS is not suing for peace and i do not have any issue with that.I am not here as representative of Israel. HAMAS is welcome to lob rockets into Israel. Just don't cry victim when Israel react with fury.I only have issues with people crying victim in a conflict of their own doing.

BTW HAMAS's behaviour is a textbook example of the point that i was stating. HAMAS indulges in terrorism because it knows fully well that Israel would not go Third Reich on its @ss.

Similarly, Muslims in post 2002 era believed that Hindus would not react disproportionately ( going by previous record ). Thus they thought it okay to burn Trains. Once that myth was shattered, no stupid action has been taken by muslims since then.

As i said, it is not my problem if you do not like my answer.

 

[he-man]

I have not, it is the Indian public that has decided to go down the path of Hindutva fanaticism through electing Modi as the PM of India.

Then u should be the happiest man seeing india self destruct by this so called fascism.
Why worry.

 

[DesiGuy]

oh....look who is complaining...what a bloody joke.

 

[PWFI]

This is the umpteenth thread on the so called 'massacre' of Muslims in Gujarat. I suggest you mind your own business as you have nothing in common with Indian Muslims. Sort out your own internecine problems first before poking your nose here.

Behind on fire? like YOU mind your own business
BTW it's our business since they are indian muslims

 

[lavenge lavenge]

My country man!!
Damn that sounds so funny to me,i don't know why?

BTW @he-man , i am arguing the Justness and morality of riots strictly from utilitarian viewpoint, not religious. and the feisty defence i am presenting is more of a reaction to hypocrisy of posters of this forum.

 

[syedali73]

Then u should be the happiest man seeing india self destruct by this so called fascism.
Why worry.

If it was not controlled I am afraid what you have mentioned might become a reality.

 

[he-man]

BTW @he-man , i am arguing the Justness and morality of riots strictly from utilitarian viewpoint, not religious. and the feisty defence i am presenting is more of a reaction to hypocrisy of posters of this forum.

Such acts cannot be justified by any viewpoint otherwise the viscious cycle will continue.
Though it did instill fear in some terrorist elements temporarily but overall it has done much more harm actually as many terrorists are turning to im/simi etc for avenging those riots.

 

[he-man]

If it was not controlled I am afraid what you have mentioned might become a reality.

ThAts why i am laughing at ur argument.Anyone who visits india will tell u how wrong u are.

 

[syedali73]

Such acts cannot be justified by any viewpoint otherwise the viscious cycle will continue.
Though it did instill fear in some terrorist elements temporarily but overall it has done much more harm actually as many terrorists are turning to im/simi etc for avenging those riots.

So those are terrorists, but Hindutva terrorists are not terrorists. Great. So even you are one of them.

ThAts why i am laughing at ur argument.Anyone who visits india will tell u how wrong u are.

I get to read you and your countrymen often on this forum. To know what is going to happen, I don't need to come to India for you guys are giving me ample impression and feel of situation.

 

[Joeblow]

Hindu ‘Saffron’ Terror Camps breeding Terrorists – Indian Home Minister Shinde confesses

‘Samjhota, Makkah Masjid, Malegon Blasts were carried out by BJP and RSS; blamed on Muslims’

by Tabish Qayyum

In a ground-breaking confession, India’s home minister Sushil Kumar Shinde has exposed the nexus between BJP and the RSS for breeding ‘Hindu terrorism’, a charge which has raged a storm from hard line Hindus on Indian mainstream and social media.

Speaking during Congress’s Chintar Shivir at Jaipur, Shinde said: “We have reports that RSS, BJP camps are promoting Hindu terror in the country.”

He alleged that RSS was behind Samjhauta, Mecca Masjid and Malegaon blasts.

“Reports have come during investigation that BJP and RSS conduct terror training camps to spread terrorism; Bombs were planted in Samjhauta express, Mecca Masjid and also a blast was carried out in Malegaon.”

Considering this a serious security threat, Shinde further said,

“We will have to think about it seriously and will have to remain alert,”

Remaining steadfast on his stance Shinde defended his allegation by saying, “This has come so many times in the papers… It is not a new thing that I have said today.”

Relating this to notorious ‘Saffron Terror’ often related to fundamental Hindu Right Wing groups which have previously been alleged for terrorism he said,

“This is saffron terrorism that I have talked about. It is the same thing and nothing new. It has come in the media several times,” the home minister said.

The Home Minister of India, P. Chidambaram urged Indians to beware of “Saffron terror” on August 25, 2010 at a meeting of state police chiefs in New Delhi, first time the word was officially used.

Charging Congress with having a “destructive mindset which was reflected in the home minister’s statement”, BJP said it was “very objectionable”. “It is not only unacceptable but dangerous also,” party spokesman Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi said.
“There cannot be anything worse that the country’s home minister giving such an objectionable statement to disrupt peace and harmony of the country,” Naqvi told reporters in Delhi.

Terming RSS as a “nationalist organisation”, the BJP leader said, “Sonia Gandhi should apologise. Rahul Gandhi and home minister should also apologise, otherwise there will be serious consequences. This is not accepted. Such baseless things when said by home minister amounts to giving clean chit to real terrorists.”

“Sometimes I feel that Congress has become a group of cowards (kayaron ki jamaat). I am terming Congress as a group of cowards because repeated terror strikes are happening in the country, terrorists are mushrooming here.

“They abolished the tool to fight terrorism,” he said in an apparent reference to scrapping of POTA.

Attacking the home minister, RSS spokesman Ram Madhav described his statement as “highly irresponsible” and said he had made the remarks only to please his party bosses.

“If a Congress leader had said something like this it wouldn’t have mattered that much, but if the home minister of the country is saying something like this, it is highly irresponsible. This is all about playing votebank politics,” he said. : Union home minister Sushilkumar Shinde on Sunday sparked a major political controversy saying RSS and BJP were promoting Hindu terror.

A storm is also raging at this brazen statement that has removed the lid from an open-secret, Social Media is flooded by mixed reactions. Hindu extremists who use this medium for their activities are terming this an attack on Hinduism.

BJP believes this statement will dent the communal harmony which is already on a fuming volcano after Owaisi Speech against Hindu Oppression and marginalization and how strongly Muslim can react if Police remains unbiased. Owaisi was arrested after his speech while 5 Muslims were shot dead by police in Dhule, Maharashtra whi led to riots injuring hundreds of people.

BJP leaders and RSS extremists are vehemently condemning Shinde for remarks and are shocked that instead of blaming Pakistan for terrorism, congress is blaming Hindus.

It has been time and again proved, in fact Pakistan’s interior minister Rehman Malik has also confessed of India involvement in Baluchistan and terrorism in Pakistan with complete state support. There are many proves lying with law enforcement agencies that point to Hindu Terrorists operating in Pakistan.

Dozens of Pakistanis lost lives in Samjhota Express incident, will Pakistani Media and Government that is hell-bent for Aman Ki Asha open its eyes even after they have observed Indian public and Media reaction to the LOC incident. Apart from Gen.Musharraf who rightly treated Indian Media by urging them to expose Hindu terrorism and taking action against Hindu Terror organization, it is high time that every quarter of Pakistani society unites to expose Indian Terrorism in this region.

So your evidence of hindu terrorism is political sniping between the ruling party and the opposition and a column by a pakistani columnist? Good job

 

[gau8av]

I have not, it is the Indian public that has decided to go down the path of Hindutva fanaticism through electing Modi as the PM of India.

no, and the video in the OP means nothing as far as proving Modi's complicity in any crimes. People much smarter than here on PDF, the highest courts have cleared Modi.

as for the bajrangi psychopath in the OP, I'm all for handing his *** over to your boys in Iraq/Syria, deal ?

 

[Tshering22]

Such acts cannot be justified by any viewpoint otherwise the viscious cycle will continue.
Though it did instill fear in some terrorist elements temporarily but overall it has done much more harm actually as many terrorists are turning to im/simi etc for avenging those riots.

Bhai, by your logic, Hindus and Buddhists should be massacring people in Srinagar by the dozens daily for butchering and exiling our people in that state Or for that matter to avenge the history of barbaric massacres done against our community.

This is a flawed fear mongering that it is only for this that they are joining ISIS and SIMI.

If this is what they want then they will get more of it by the Indian army for joining terrorist organizations.

This is a country, not a useless desert land.