How Muslims were massacred in Gujrat

[ExtraOdinary]

those 59 pilgrims were criminal-minded... they went to ayodhya to a "temple" knowing fully that the "temple" was built on the skulls of countless muslims... december 6th 1992 and afterward... those 59 pilgrims being burnt to death does not excuse their criminal attitude... that is common sense which you choose to ignore.



please realize that i have spent more years in socialist activism than you have spent learning of the world... so, a respect for your true seniors is expected.

That "mosque" was built on a demolished temple, do you notice the irony in your statement?

 

[utraash]

So basically since HItler didnt pray he has to just wait for good luck? See @utraash this is why I get confused

That's very simple dear... No matter how n what hitler prayed for instead his deeds did decide his fate eventually....
Narsimha rightly put but you seemed confused....

 

[dray]

Who said that?

Check this: How Muslims were massacred in Gujrat | Page 21

And also the post below yours.

 

[SQ8]

please realize that i have spent more years in socialist activism than you have spent learning of the world... so, a respect for your true seniors is expected.

Please realize that there is no proof for that. Hence the idea of anonymity works both ways that anything you say regarding your credentials/history is the word of a username spelled out in 1011011.. and nothing more.

 

[Parul]

That "mosque" was built on a demolished temple, do you notice the irony in your statement?

I typed same thing and decided not to post it, as it's of no use.

 

[he-man]

So from a thread that focused on the dreadful attacks on Muslims by bigoted Hindu extremists to whether Hinduism essentially descends from a monotheistic idea and as a wrench in the system hyperbole.. perhaps something that a prophet of god brought in.

In other words, if I were a Mullah with fake knowledge.. and still bought this theory.. all you Hindus are apostates and liable to be killed for leaving Islam.. if not that.. Ill BAN all of you at the very least.. starting with @he-man

ANOTHER BAN!!

 

[dray]

please realize that i have spent more years in socialist activism than you have spent learning of the world... so, a respect for your true seniors is expected.

I am a bit choosy about this 'respect' part.

 

[dray]

As I said, emotions take over logic much for frequently for Desis than any other "group" of combined ethnic individuals on earth.

That's why I try to avoid these kind of threads to the extent possible; unnecessarily drains time & energy and leaves a bitter after-taste.

 

[Narashima]

Im not sure how it got to religion, but if you do need a religious perspective from an Islamic PoV. Praying(to God/Allah/Ishwar.. and Im being very focused and selective on the idea of certain interpretations in Hinduism that consider a single deity as the provider and not others equating to him/it) will have the similar effects on your life here on earth as it might for Muslims. Since the oft spoken "Ar Rahman Ar Rahim" is split for this very reasons. The Ar Rahman part deals with all of his creations regardless of religious belief or otherwise... he is the provider and will provide regardless and more if called onto. Additioanlly the idea of Karma is also applicable to this that any good act will be rewarded in this earth for all creations at some point or another.

The Ar Rahim part however is exclusive to Muslims, this implies that the mercy(specifically) at the end of the world and at reckoning will focus on Muslims and their prayers. Not much luck for non-Muslims in this regard. Specifically because the idea is that once you know that Islam is out there and even after hearing about it you rejected the faith.. you are still going to hell.



As I said, emotions take over logic much for frequently for Desis than any other "group" of combined ethnic individuals on earth.

basically, karma leads to reincarnation and other stuff, there is no concrete definition of hell and heaven, some says it does exists, some says it doesn't and most baba log talk about knowing self and reaching moksha/nirvana and how it is useless to attach yourself with symbolic physical beings like relationships or anything, treating everything equally wether it is stone, animal or human but that's practically impossible.
there is so many interpretations so it would be much better we won't discuss further and i myself do not believe in religion. I just takes what i like and reject what i don't.

 

[HeadHunter]

So what I am not surprised ? This is what happens when you stop enslaving these sub humans. These so called human beings only belong to HINDU KUSH mountains or in palaces of Muslim rulers as servants . This is the reason sometimes I don't call ajmal kasab and hafiz saeed as terrorists. What they did was just a retaliation .Every dead hindu terrorist is the one pathetic subhuman less from this world.
@OrionHunter We have everything in common with every indian muslim @jamahir and every muslim in Kashmir and with growing muslim population in the subcontinent you know whats coming your way and the future of the most hypocrite cult in the history called Hinduism .

 

[jamahir]

Please realize that there is no proof for that. Hence the idea of anonymity works both ways that anything you say regarding your credentials/history is the word of a username spelled out in 1011011.. and nothing more.

then why are you even on internet if all you can do is doubt everyone?? but why don't you organize a pdf meet in india?? i will tell you of my credentials...

if you don't respect my 1000+ posts which mostly speak of socialism and human brotherhood, i don't see why i should respect your current postion of senior moderator.

 

[Srinivas]

Because GOD is GOD and gets HIS ministers to their work otherwise why have some? BUT ALLAH doesnt ask us to ask through the ministers but says ask HIM directly (isnt it better that the voice reaches the highest authority in its original form rather than going through filters?) so my question still stands...Why do Hindus ask the ministers over the king?
Well if they are of the same GOD then why in different forms/ colours and why does GOD have to come down himself? Esp when he has ministers what use are these ministers if they dont even do their own work and make god come down?

If the supreme GOD is the same one residing in the GODs he created and living things, The prayers will reach him anywhere , any time. So one can call him with any name, pray him in various ways and also can reach him through various practices in accordance with the Dharma. Cosmic soul is the one which is taking these forms.

Regarding GOD coming down as a man. It appeals to mankind in a wonderful way if GOD shows the right way in human form by living a human life.

Taboo today was not taboo back then and vice versa....Again was God not far sighted enough to see the change in eras....BIG changes like Sati needed to be taken out...heck who even put it in what was the purpose back in the 7th century for that?
How and how can this theory ever be tested?

Times change and laws change, there is no law that works for all the times at all the places, I believe reason why GOD is siding with Science and Reason in present day, both combined is like a modern religion.

How and how can this theory ever be tested?

The experiments are happening to prove that the 5 th dimension and higher dimensions exists, they are smashing the particles and are searching for the traces of Gravitons(Gravitons are the reason for gravity). Gravitons can travel from one brane to another brane proving the existence of higher dimensions.

There is a new theory called String theory which claims that it can explain every thing from celestial bodies , the laws associated with them down to the level of atoms and energy.

For long scientists are trying to find a bridge between Quantum mechanics and Einstein's theory of relativity, space time etc..etc...

The holy grail is to explain every phenomena happening in this universe in a single equation. That is like decoding the cosmos.

relative to what?

I believe every thing that exists is a relative, if develop a program, you are like god to this code, you can enhance,introduce virus, develop anti virus etc..etc....

Then how and when did he teach?

After achieving Niravana Buddha started his teachings. After his death he integrated himself with the cosmic soul.

Appreciated to know they are your thoughts and yours alone...The next Hindu will tell me totally different stuff!
It would be true ONLY if you can quote it from your book otherwise it is your personal addition to the religion!

What I have told is Vedic knowledge.

Vedas ---> Upanishads ----> Bhagawad Gita.

Vedas are divine revelations ---> Upanishads are the synthesis of Vedas ----> Bhagawad gita is the synthesis of Upanishads and Vedas.

But one needs some basic vedic knowledge to read them. Unfortunately I have to read them in English some of the important versus and I also received some guidance.

In Vedas there are various hyms related to pleasing nature and its forces. But the core and important thing is "Aranyaka", this chapter is all about Rishis meditating in Forest and receiving divine revelations, the hyms about Atman and Brahman.

Where does it say so? Or again your thoughts? Fharmic philosophy didnt allow it you guys forcefully introduced it by claiming its time to change!

Surrender to GOD and accept what he says do not think beyond is the Abrahamic motto. Dharnmic philosophy is liberal from the beginning.

That is up to them like it is up to you to add and subtract at will
MOST verses are addressed with WE the holy WE will punish them which means GOD will punish them not humans
Other verses are starting with O Muhammad do this and that like in Gita oh Arjun fight your cousins! likewise O Muhammad fight the WRONG DOERS....

Right and wrong is not always believers vs non believers.

The only fight prescribed in the Quran FOR human is strive for good

Yet we have ethic-less and moraless scientists

There is always Good which stands against bad, reason why we exist.

 

[jamahir]

the most hypocrite cult in the history called Hinduism .

that much is true.

 

[HeadHunter]

that much is true.

yes but if anything else offended you I am sorry .Actually after watching that video I got angry and was carried away a little bit .But that does not mean what I said is not true.

 

[Screambowl]

but it seems your government would give a much better and adequate info in the remaining 5 since you're the ones who had close interactions with em.

already sent as dossiers to Pakistan and always reminded. It is the duty of Pakistan to analyze it, but then it would seriously hurt Pakistan's reputation once out in the public.