How Muslims were massacred in Gujrat

[Dubious]

I would find those bigots and kill them. Not find more innocents to kill if I were a Mullah. If I was a sensible citizen I would go to the government and use the system. Not butcher a thousand people for 30 odd ones in the name of revenge.. much less justify it.

That is what I am going on and on about if you condemn the train incident also condemn the babri masjid AND the Gujarat riots why condemn 1 and turn a blind eye and even as far as justice is served type of mentality on the others?

 

[SQ8]

That is what I am going on and on about if you condemn the train incident also condemn the babri masjid AND the Gujarat riots why condemn 1 and turn a blind eye and even as far as justice is served type of mentality on the others?

That is a general mentality you encounter on Desi forums. Each considers oneself washed from milk and the other completely guilty. ironic that in an attempt to focus on their communal identities, Indian members here have even gone so far to suggesting gassing the Muslims in their nation ala Jews in Nazi occupied territories.

 

[dray]

Stop being over emotional and creating a drama....Millions of questions also arise when a Christian is killed or trialed in Pakistan...How do you think threads and knowledge about minorities plight in Pakistan reaches you?

Hindus are like that only, they always create drama.

 

[utraash]

It was not an accident mate, those 59 Hindu pilgrims including 25 women and 15 children locked themselves in the train compartment on their own and burnt themselves to death with petrol so that innocent and pious Muslims can be blamed for their death.

Please remember that all the bad things Muslims are blamed for around the world are conspiracies/inside jobs/false flag operations of Hindu/Jew/Christian agents of RAW/Mossad/CIA to malign Islam and Muslims. That's a thumb rule for any debate if you are a Muslim, all the best.

[USER=7568] syedali73 You guys should spend more time on training newbies, these are basic knowledge![/USER]

That person does not deserve any enlightenment he is meant of his confined frog's well.....

 

[Dubious]

Mam check my first post I condemn the killings coz I believe human life precious..... I even liked your post about something 2 wrong does not make right .... I cannot say about others but what others implying by taking Godhra train burning into account is that post Godhra cases were very spontaneous reaction from majority... Can you imagine any sane mind(Irrespective of religion) would support of killing of innocent(even women n childrens) , answer is big no ......

Sorry If it felt like I was pointing at you alone....My posts all started with that question how can 2 wrongs make a right!
And Yes you are the few who condemns...

As for the bold part sadly 2-3 Indians on this thread actually justified the Gujarat riots...Literally used the word that it was JUST

But here Indians are reacting to those who are vilifying Hinduism under the shadow of post Godhra riots even some desperately comparing it to ISIS ... Don't you see that....

I dont read everyone's post only those who quote me or mention me or are directly above or below my posts....I have no interest in picking fights or hurting sentiments! Best to ignore those who wish to behave soo immaturely!

BUT my question was raised coz I was quoted and told it was Just coz it was RETALIATION for the Ghodra train incident and everytime the Gujarat riots comes in Ghodra train goes hand in hand yet people forget to bring in Babri masjid then more and more incidents can be dragged in...How many can one justify? And how is this even justifiable?

They even not bothered to show any genuine regret instead they were busy in typing a vile paint on Hinduism.... Mam check the history of Hinduism which sheltered all religiously persecuted people in India , Be my guest, I invite you too Navsaari( Small town near Surat) where Parsi people have been living amicably without any trouble for centuries....

There are small communities of every religion and stuff living in Pakistan because they are not being murdered they are not in the news...Because they are living in peace they are not used as news propaganda ....

Nastik is very different than kafir .... I am requesting you plz open a new thread with all your doubts on Hinduism......

I unfortunately am the worst to ask to opening a thread within minutes some moderate gets an itch to close my threads! Believe till date some 5-6 of my threads have been closed before it breath its 24th hr!

JFYI Hinduism is a very complex system of belief which preaches following Dharma through righteous Karma n ultimately destiny of human soul(Aatma) is to get salvation(soul merging with supreme soul or Paramaatma) by purifying inner self to outer self n which is why people do chose different-2 path(based on their understanding) instead same or common...... Any deviation good for human kind is allowed that's y practicing Hindus of one geographical area different than from any other places ......

This is roughly same as for Muslims...Usually in Quran it says do good and be rewarded good...it doesnt classify the good you need to do...Do evil and you will be punished it doesnt classify the evil (yes there are few rigid laws like not to drink, gamble and stuff like that which even your mom would tell you)

Lastly we call BHAGWAN(God) which is house of a soul means human body which is consists of below also called "Panchtatva"......
Bh- Bhumi(Earth)
Aag-Aagni(Fire or Sun)
G- Gagan(Sky)
Wa- Vayu(Air)
N- Neer(Water or Pani)
Sorry cant teach you further here on this thread....

I wouldnt understand any further either

 

[Narashima]

Because GOD is GOD and gets HIS ministers to their work otherwise why have some? BUT ALLAH doesnt ask us to ask through the ministers but says ask HIM directly (isnt it better that the voice reaches the highest authority in its original form rather than going through filters?) so my question still stands...Why do Hindus ask the ministers over the king?

I think you mean "praying" that's basically useless for hindus. Your karma will decide your fate, this is how it works, praying or not doesn't matter.

 

[Dubious]

I think you mean "praying" that's basically useless for hindus. Your karma will decide your fate, this is how it works, praying or not doesn't matter.

So basically since HItler didnt pray he has to just wait for good luck? See @utraash this is why I get confused

 

[SQ8]

Hindus are like that only, they always create drama.

Desis, please do not single out a religion for religious flaming.

 

[Dubious]

That is a general mentality you encounter on Desi forums. Each considers oneself washed from milk and the other completely guilty. ironic that in an attempt to focus on their communal identities, Indian members here have even gone so far to suggesting gassing the Muslims in their nation ala Jews in Nazi occupied territories.

Forget that...One brought in everything from Bosnians to Israel and Palestinian conflict to ISIS ...Poor Boko Haram was ignored

 

[Narashima]

So basically since HItler didnt pray he has to just wait for good luck? See @utraash this is why I get confused

Leave it. You don't have to understand hinduism for this. Those who were responsible for the riots are now rotting in jail and that includes man in the video too.

 

[dray]

Desis, please do not single out a religion for religious flaming.

I have noticed this thread long ago, but didn't comment for last 28 pages, but sometimes things become unbearable. Godhra victims were criminals? really?

 

[Dubious]

I have noticed this thread long ago, but didn't comment for last 28 pages, but sometimes things become unbearable. Godhra victims were criminals? really?

Who said that?

 

[jamahir]

those 59 Hindu pilgrims including 25 women and 15 children

those 59 pilgrims were criminal-minded... they went to ayodhya to a "temple" knowing fully that the "temple" was built on the skulls of countless muslims... december 6th 1992 and afterward... those 59 pilgrims being burnt to death does not excuse their criminal attitude... that is common sense which you choose to ignore.

@Akheilos @syedali73 You guys should spend more time on training newbies, these are basic knowledge!

please realize that i have spent more years in socialist activism than you have spent learning of the world... so, a respect for your true seniors is expected.

 

[SQ8]

I think you mean "praying" that's basically useless for hindus. Your karma will decide your fate, this is how it works, praying or not doesn't matter.

Im not sure how it got to religion, but if you do need a religious perspective from an Islamic PoV. Praying(to God/Allah/Ishwar.. and Im being very focused and selective on the idea of certain interpretations in Hinduism that consider a single deity as the provider and not others equating to him/it) will have the similar effects on your life here on earth as it might for Muslims. Since the oft spoken "Ar Rahman Ar Rahim" is split for this very reasons. The Ar Rahman part deals with all of his creations regardless of religious belief or otherwise... he is the provider and will provide regardless and more if called onto. Additioanlly the idea of Karma is also applicable to this that any good act will be rewarded in this earth for all creations at some point or another.

The Ar Rahim part however is exclusive to Muslims, this implies that the mercy(specifically) at the end of the world and at reckoning will focus on Muslims and their prayers. Not much luck for non-Muslims in this regard. Specifically because the idea is that once you know that Islam is out there and even after hearing about it you rejected the faith.. you are still going to hell.

I have noticed this thread long ago, but didn't comment for last 28 pages, but sometimes things become unbearable. Godhra victims were criminals? really?

As I said, emotions take over logic much for frequently for Desis than any other "group" of combined ethnic individuals on earth.

 

[Srinivas]

Hindus are like that only, they always create drama.

Yeah Hindus do dramabazi yelling and rioting