How do Bangladeshis view 1965 war?

[Menace2Society]

1965 war was a great achievement by Pakistan who successfully repelled an invading force at an unprecedented 3:1 ratio.

How did Bangladeshis view this at the time? Is it something of value or deemed not relevant because it no longer applies to a sovereign Bangladesh? I would be interested to find out.

 

[Sine Nomine]

@asad71 @Khalid Newazi @Bilal9

1965 war was a great achievement by Pakistan who successfully repelled an invading force at an unprecedented 3:1 ratio.

How did Banglas view this at the time? Is it something of value or deemed not relevant because it no longer applies to a sovereign Bangladesh? I would be interested to find out.

No ground war did happened in East Pakistan,only an Air Battle which earned No-14 Sq name of "Tail Choppers"
The military Role of "East Pakistan"-Bangladesh in 1965 against India

 

[chaanmia]

1965 war was a great achievement by Pakistan who successfully repelled an invading force at an unprecedented 3:1 ratio.

How did Banglas view this at the time? Is it something of value or deemed not relevant because it no longer applies to a sovereign Bangladesh? I would be interested to find out.

Turning point of our revolution Pakistan left entire East Pakistan unprotected and concentrated all her resources to defend west so it helped the nationalists to convince people and gather them under "separate state" idea thank you pak politicians you guys deserve a "স্বাধীনতা পদক( independence day medal )"

 

[Sine Nomine]

Turning point of our revolution Pakistan left entire East Pakistan unprotected and concentrated all her resources to defend west so it helped the nationalists to convince people and gather them under "separate state" idea thank you pak politicians you guys deserve a "স্বাধীনতা পদক( independence day medal )"

That's why peoples in SA say that"Chutiypa has no limits" go through that Post...it is by a Bengali officer of PA in 1965.
BY: @Md Akmal
@ In the eve of Indo-Pak 1965 war, East Pakistan had only 3 x Brigades located to defend East Pakistan. One is located in general area Rangpur-Rajshahi (Rajshahi Division), one is located at Comilla-Sylhet area, the third Brigade was located at Jessore-Khulna area. Some elements of Division were located at Dacca and some elements of troops were located at Chittagong.

@ 1 x (Australian) Sqn stationed at Dacca having 20 fighter planes. This sqn was given by the Australian Govt once Pakistan signed a Defense Pact with Australia. In those days these were the best aircrafts in comparison with Indian Aircrafts deployed in the Eastern Sector. With this lone sqn Pakistan Airforce carried out a simultaneous air raids on the Indian Eastern series of airports. And it was reported that around 14/16 Indian Gnats/ Vampires aircraft were destroyed. Indian Airforce did retaliated by attacking Chittagong, Narranganj, Tejgaon and Cormitola airport but with negligible damage. Indian aircraft also carried out air raids at Lalmonir Hat and Shibganj airport(Thakurgaon). Finally I want to say that this lone Pak Sqn played a vital role in the Pakistan Eastern Sector which was a real deterrent to Indian both land and air battle.

@ It was true that the defense of East Pakistan was kept on the mercy of India in 1965 war but it was not completely free hand. I remember that in those days Pakistan army created lot of “Mujahed Battallion “ almost in all Thanas. And they were highly motivated. Besides there were 15/16 Wings of East Pakistan Rifles being commanded by the Army Officers. Here I want to say that these EPR wings were comparatively very strong with Indian BSF. That was one of the reason why India always wants the EPR/BDR/ Border Guards to be commanded by the Police through their agents. Besides, Pakistan army also raised many Ansar Battalions located in the border areas.

@ We have the tendency to always blame Pakistan that they did not gave due importance to our defense.(East Pakistan). But in practice Pakistan hardly got time to think for the over all defense of Pakistan. On the very day after partition Pakistan did not received her due share including defense. In 1947, in East Pakistan they got only one odd 1 x Punjab Battalion with a skeleton Divisional HQ. Moreso, there were hardly any Bengali people found in the British Armed Forces in those days. British considered Bengalese as a non-marshal race. The same principle continued even after independence. Once Muslim League was in Power till 1958 they give importance on the recruitment of Bengalese but once General Ayub came to power, it was slowed and during his later part it was increased and once Yahya came to it was increased in to doubled.
@ Pakistan inherited the problem of Kashmir. Infact there were many disputed territory between Pakistan and India after independence but due to the proximity, Pakistan took the problem of Kashmir a bit seriously. But again she was not in a position to deal the problem with little amount of defense resources. So, whenever she got the chances she just procured the defense armament and put into to the Kashmir sector.

@ During the war time I was in Noshera (Peshawar) where Pakistan had PAF training Centre(Resalpur), Artillery Centre & School, Armored Centre & School and at the top of it was Cherat, the “Commando Centre”. So, everyday, I used to enjoy the dog fight on the sky of Noshera between Indian Aircrafts and Pakistan Aircrafts.

@ And finally there was no need and sending troops from East Pakistan to West Pakistan. The Bengali troops were already stationed and deployed there to fight against Indian and which they did it. The Bengali sappers were also stationed in Gilgit to construct the Karakorram High ways which was a nightmare for India. In those days East Pakistan was a part & parcel of Pakistan and the people here were also equally motivated like other Pakistani Citizens. It was only some elements of Awami Leaque and pro-Indian elements which thought in different angle. O ! yes, yes ! I remember once the Abdul Monen Khan the Governor of the East Pakistan called all the ministers and politicians to discussed about the security aspects of East Pakistan during the war, Sk Mujib openly proposed to the Monem Khan to revolt against West Pakistan. What a fool ! Give me a break !!!!!!!

 

[asad71]

1965 war was a great achievement by Pakistan who successfully repelled an invading force at an unprecedented 3:1 ratio.

How did Banglas view this at the time? Is it something of value or deemed not relevant because it no longer applies to a sovereign Bangladesh? I would be interested to find out.

Bangal is a derogatory term used by W Bengalis referring to E Bengalis. It is just like calling Pakistanis ****.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

turning point. The fact that Pakistan left E Bengal unprotected plus the complete lack of concern for them during the floods precipitated the revolt.

 

[Menace2Society]

Bangal is a derogatory term used by W Bengalis referring to E Bengalis. It is just like calling Pakistanis ****.

Really? Sorry didn't know that. I edited it.

 

[chaanmia]

That's why peoples in SA say that"Chutiypa has no limits" go through that Post...it is by a Bengali officer of PA in 1965.
BY: @Md Akmal
@ In the eve of Indo-Pak 1965 war, East Pakistan had only 3 x Brigades located to defend East Pakistan. One is located in general area Rangpur-Rajshahi (Rajshahi Division), one is located at Comilla-Sylhet area, the third Brigade was located at Jessore-Khulna area. Some elements of Division were located at Dacca and some elements of troops were located at Chittagong.

@ 1 x (Australian) Sqn stationed at Dacca having 20 fighter planes. This sqn was given by the Australian Govt once Pakistan signed a Defense Pact with Australia. In those days these were the best aircrafts in comparison with Indian Aircrafts deployed in the Eastern Sector. With this lone sqn Pakistan Airforce carried out a simultaneous air raids on the Indian Eastern series of airports. And it was reported that around 14/16 Indian Gnats/ Vampires aircraft were destroyed. Indian Airforce did retaliated by attacking Chittagong, Narranganj, Tejgaon and Cormitola airport but with negligible damage. Indian aircraft also carried out air raids at Lalmonir Hat and Shibganj airport(Thakurgaon). Finally I want to say that this lone Pak Sqn played a vital role in the Pakistan Eastern Sector which was a real deterrent to Indian both land and air battle.

@ It was true that the defense of East Pakistan was kept on the mercy of India in 1965 war but it was not completely free hand. I remember that in those days Pakistan army created lot of “Mujahed Battallion “ almost in all Thanas. And they were highly motivated. Besides there were 15/16 Wings of East Pakistan Rifles being commanded by the Army Officers. Here I want to say that these EPR wings were comparatively very strong with Indian BSF. That was one of the reason why India always wants the EPR/BDR/ Border Guards to be commanded by the Police through their agents. Besides, Pakistan army also raised many Ansar Battalions located in the border areas.

@ We have the tendency to always blame Pakistan that they did not gave due importance to our defense.(East Pakistan). But in practice Pakistan hardly got time to think for the over all defense of Pakistan. On the very day after partition Pakistan did not received her due share including defense. In 1947, in East Pakistan they got only one odd 1 x Punjab Battalion with a skeleton Divisional HQ. Moreso, there were hardly any Bengali people found in the British Armed Forces in those days. British considered Bengalese as a non-marshal race. The same principle continued even after independence. Once Muslim League was in Power till 1958 they give importance on the recruitment of Bengalese but once General Ayub came to power, it was slowed and during his later part it was increased and once Yahya came to it was increased in to doubled.
@ Pakistan inherited the problem of Kashmir. Infact there were many disputed territory between Pakistan and India after independence but due to the proximity, Pakistan took the problem of Kashmir a bit seriously. But again she was not in a position to deal the problem with little amount of defense resources. So, whenever she got the chances she just procured the defense armament and put into to the Kashmir sector.

@ During the war time I was in Noshera (Peshawar) where Pakistan had PAF training Centre(Resalpur), Artillery Centre & School, Armored Centre & School and at the top of it was Cherat, the “Commando Centre”. So, everyday, I used to enjoy the dog fight on the sky of Noshera between Indian Aircrafts and Pakistan Aircrafts.

@ And finally there was no need and sending troops from East Pakistan to West Pakistan. The Bengali troops were already stationed and deployed there to fight against Indian and which they did it. The Bengali sappers were also stationed in Gilgit to construct the Karakorram High ways which was a nightmare for India. In those days East Pakistan was a part & parcel of Pakistan and the people here were also equally motivated like other Pakistani Citizens. It was only some elements of Awami Leaque and pro-Indian elements which thought in different angle. O ! yes, yes ! I remember once the Abdul Monen Khan the Governor of the East Pakistan called all the ministers and politicians to discussed about the security aspects of East Pakistan during the war, Sk Mujib openly proposed to the Monem Khan to revolt against West Pakistan. What a fool ! Give me a break !!!!!!!

Hell yeah chutiyappa has no limits because The british kept us out of the army not because we weren't marshal but because we played a crucial role in 1857 sepoy mutiny but pakis always thought us as weaklings and despite being the majority of the population (59%) we were the minority of armed forces (only15%).

 

[Md Akmal]

That's why peoples in SA say that"Chutiypa has no limits" go through that Post...it is by a Bengali officer of PA in 1965.
BY: @Md Akmal
@ In the eve of Indo-Pak 1965 war, East Pakistan had only 3 x Brigades located to defend East Pakistan. One is located in general area Rangpur-Rajshahi (Rajshahi Division), one is located at Comilla-Sylhet area, the third Brigade was located at Jessore-Khulna area. Some elements of Division were located at Dacca and some elements of troops were located at Chittagong.

@ 1 x (Australian) Sqn stationed at Dacca having 20 fighter planes. This sqn was given by the Australian Govt once Pakistan signed a Defense Pact with Australia. In those days these were the best aircrafts in comparison with Indian Aircrafts deployed in the Eastern Sector. With this lone sqn Pakistan Airforce carried out a simultaneous air raids on the Indian Eastern series of airports. And it was reported that around 14/16 Indian Gnats/ Vampires aircraft were destroyed. Indian Airforce did retaliated by attacking Chittagong, Narranganj, Tejgaon and Cormitola airport but with negligible damage. Indian aircraft also carried out air raids at Lalmonir Hat and Shibganj airport(Thakurgaon). Finally I want to say that this lone Pak Sqn played a vital role in the Pakistan Eastern Sector which was a real deterrent to Indian both land and air battle.

@ It was true that the defense of East Pakistan was kept on the mercy of India in 1965 war but it was not completely free hand. I remember that in those days Pakistan army created lot of “Mujahed Battallion “ almost in all Thanas. And they were highly motivated. Besides there were 15/16 Wings of East Pakistan Rifles being commanded by the Army Officers. Here I want to say that these EPR wings were comparatively very strong with Indian BSF. That was one of the reason why India always wants the EPR/BDR/ Border Guards to be commanded by the Police through their agents. Besides, Pakistan army also raised many Ansar Battalions located in the border areas.

@ We have the tendency to always blame Pakistan that they did not gave due importance to our defense.(East Pakistan). But in practice Pakistan hardly got time to think for the over all defense of Pakistan. On the very day after partition Pakistan did not received her due share including defense. In 1947, in East Pakistan they got only one odd 1 x Punjab Battalion with a skeleton Divisional HQ. Moreso, there were hardly any Bengali people found in the British Armed Forces in those days. British considered Bengalese as a non-marshal race. The same principle continued even after independence. Once Muslim League was in Power till 1958 they give importance on the recruitment of Bengalese but once General Ayub came to power, it was slowed and during his later part it was increased and once Yahya came to it was increased in to doubled.
@ Pakistan inherited the problem of Kashmir. Infact there were many disputed territory between Pakistan and India after independence but due to the proximity, Pakistan took the problem of Kashmir a bit seriously. But again she was not in a position to deal the problem with little amount of defense resources. So, whenever she got the chances she just procured the defense armament and put into to the Kashmir sector.

@ During the war time I was in Noshera (Peshawar) where Pakistan had PAF training Centre(Resalpur), Artillery Centre & School, Armored Centre & School and at the top of it was Cherat, the “Commando Centre”. So, everyday, I used to enjoy the dog fight on the sky of Noshera between Indian Aircrafts and Pakistan Aircrafts.

@ And finally there was no need and sending troops from East Pakistan to West Pakistan. The Bengali troops were already stationed and deployed there to fight against Indian and which they did it. The Bengali sappers were also stationed in Gilgit to construct the Karakorram High ways which was a nightmare for India. In those days East Pakistan was a part & parcel of Pakistan and the people here were also equally motivated like other Pakistani Citizens. It was only some elements of Awami Leaque and pro-Indian elements which thought in different angle. O ! yes, yes ! I remember once the Abdul Monen Khan the Governor of the East Pakistan called all the ministers and politicians to discussed about the security aspects of East Pakistan during the war, Sk Mujib openly proposed to the Monem Khan to revolt against West Pakistan. What a fool ! Give me a break !!!!!!!

@ "Are Bhai, me tu Pakistan Army me nahi tha, ha meri waled they Pakistan armi me". At that time I was in reading in Cantt Public High School, Sharai Shershah, Noshera.That is why I know a little bite of Pakistan Army during their forming state. My father used to tell me that in their times even the Commanding Officers used to be a British Officer. However, since 1962 I have not seen any British Officers in Pakistan Army.

@ One more information, after the Korean War, East Pakistan received all most all armaments of American Army straight way. Ofcourse many went to West Pakistan also.

 

[chaanmia]

That's why peoples in SA say that"Chutiypa has no limits" go through that Post...it is by a Bengali officer of PA in 1965.
BY: @Md Akmal
@ In the eve of Indo-Pak 1965 war, East Pakistan had only 3 x Brigades located to defend East Pakistan. One is located in general area Rangpur-Rajshahi (Rajshahi Division), one is located at Comilla-Sylhet area, the third Brigade was located at Jessore-Khulna area. Some elements of Division were located at Dacca and some elements of troops were located at Chittagong.

@ 1 x (Australian) Sqn stationed at Dacca having 20 fighter planes. This sqn was given by the Australian Govt once Pakistan signed a Defense Pact with Australia. In those days these were the best aircrafts in comparison with Indian Aircrafts deployed in the Eastern Sector. With this lone sqn Pakistan Airforce carried out a simultaneous air raids on the Indian Eastern series of airports. And it was reported that around 14/16 Indian Gnats/ Vampires aircraft were destroyed. Indian Airforce did retaliated by attacking Chittagong, Narranganj, Tejgaon and Cormitola airport but with negligible damage. Indian aircraft also carried out air raids at Lalmonir Hat and Shibganj airport(Thakurgaon). Finally I want to say that this lone Pak Sqn played a vital role in the Pakistan Eastern Sector which was a real deterrent to Indian both land and air battle.

@ It was true that the defense of East Pakistan was kept on the mercy of India in 1965 war but it was not completely free hand. I remember that in those days Pakistan army created lot of “Mujahed Battallion “ almost in all Thanas. And they were highly motivated. Besides there were 15/16 Wings of East Pakistan Rifles being commanded by the Army Officers. Here I want to say that these EPR wings were comparatively very strong with Indian BSF. That was one of the reason why India always wants the EPR/BDR/ Border Guards to be commanded by the Police through their agents. Besides, Pakistan army also raised many Ansar Battalions located in the border areas.

@ We have the tendency to always blame Pakistan that they did not gave due importance to our defense.(East Pakistan). But in practice Pakistan hardly got time to think for the over all defense of Pakistan. On the very day after partition Pakistan did not received her due share including defense. In 1947, in East Pakistan they got only one odd 1 x Punjab Battalion with a skeleton Divisional HQ. Moreso, there were hardly any Bengali people found in the British Armed Forces in those days. British considered Bengalese as a non-marshal race. The same principle continued even after independence. Once Muslim League was in Power till 1958 they give importance on the recruitment of Bengalese but once General Ayub came to power, it was slowed and during his later part it was increased and once Yahya came to it was increased in to doubled.
@ Pakistan inherited the problem of Kashmir. Infact there were many disputed territory between Pakistan and India after independence but due to the proximity, Pakistan took the problem of Kashmir a bit seriously. But again she was not in a position to deal the problem with little amount of defense resources. So, whenever she got the chances she just procured the defense armament and put into to the Kashmir sector.

@ During the war time I was in Noshera (Peshawar) where Pakistan had PAF training Centre(Resalpur), Artillery Centre & School, Armored Centre & School and at the top of it was Cherat, the “Commando Centre”. So, everyday, I used to enjoy the dog fight on the sky of Noshera between Indian Aircrafts and Pakistan Aircrafts.

@ And finally there was no need and sending troops from East Pakistan to West Pakistan. The Bengali troops were already stationed and deployed there to fight against Indian and which they did it. The Bengali sappers were also stationed in Gilgit to construct the Karakorram High ways which was a nightmare for India. In those days East Pakistan was a part & parcel of Pakistan and the people here were also equally motivated like other Pakistani Citizens. It was only some elements of Awami Leaque and pro-Indian elements which thought in different angle. O ! yes, yes ! I remember once the Abdul Monen Khan the Governor of the East Pakistan called all the ministers and politicians to discussed about the security aspects of East Pakistan during the war, Sk Mujib openly proposed to the Monem Khan to revolt against West Pakistan. What a fool ! Give me a break !!!!!!!

 

[Sine Nomine]

Hell yeah chutiyappa has no limits because The british kept us out of the army not because we weren't marshal but because we played a crucial role in 1857 sepoy mutiny but pakis always thought us as weaklings and despite being the majority of the population (59%) we were the minority of armed forces (only15%).

well kid surely it has no limits should i tell you that all recruitment of forces was done from Potwhar region even at that time 70% of soldiers were from that 3 districts.My own districts situated just adjacent to Potwhar only got some share in Forces after 1980's.

@ "Are Bhai, me tu Pakistan Army me nahi tha, ha meri waled they Pakistan armi me". At that time I was in reading in Cantt Public High School, Sharai Shershah, Noshera.That is why I know a little bite of Pakistan Army during their forming state. My father used to tell me that in their times even the Commanding Officers used to be a British Officer. However, since 1962 I have not seen any British Officers in Pakistan Army.

@ One more information, after the Korean War, East Pakistan received all most all armaments of American Army straight way. Ofcourse many went to West Pakistan also.

But still sir you provide first hand view of situation, must have seen peoples in west are poor too even about 60% in Punjab but only thing they enjoy is Agriculture land and no floods.

 

[Md Akmal]

@asad71 @Khalid Newazi @Bilal9

No ground war did happened in East Pakistan,only an Air Battle which earned No-14 Sq name of "Tail Choppers"
The military Role of "East Pakistan"-Bangladesh in 1965 against India

@ The Pakistan Army concentrated 1 x Commando SS Company at Thakurgaon (East Pakistan)on the eve of 1965 War. They had a plan to dislodged the Silliguri Corridor and quickly fall back or link up with China. But soon it was silently withdrawn. " Dilki baat dilme rai gei".

 

[Sine Nomine]

@ The Pakistan Army concentrated 1 x Commando SS Company at Thakurgaon (East Pakistan)on the eve of 1965 War. They had a plan to dislodged the Silliguri Corridor and quickly fall back or link up with China. But soon it was silently withdrawn. " Dilki baat dilme rai gei".

Yes i knew it from some where possibly china wasn't keen or they were short of Logistics because a company would not hold Silliguri Corridor,a divisional force was needed.

 

[chaanmia]

well kid surely it has no limits should i tell you that all recruitment of forces was done from Potwhar region even at that time 70% of soldiers were from that 3 districts.My own districts situated just adjacent to Potwhar only got some share in Forces after 1980's.
But still sir you provide first hand view of situation, must have seen peoples in west are poor too even about 60% in Punjab but only thing they enjoy is Agriculture land and no floods.

how many tanks were there in east pakistan during the war of 65 mr.oldy ? The answer is ZERO by the way ,the mujahids you are talking about failed to protect east pakistan in 71 from the Mukti Bahini(mostly civillian) how they would have protected east pakistan from well trained Indian army? the fact, as it remains WE WERE ABANDONED DURING THE CRISIS AND WERE ALWAYS CONSIDERED AS 'DISPOSABLE'

 

[Md Akmal]

well kid surely it has no limits should i tell you that all recruitment of forces was done from Potwhar region even at that time 70% of soldiers were from that 3 districts.My own districts situated just adjacent to Potwhar only got some share in Forces after 1980's.
But still sir you provide first hand view of situation, must have seen peoples in west are poor too even about 60% in Punjab but only thing they enjoy is Agriculture land and no floods.

@ " Kon sala kah ta yeh ham log garib they ". None of the peoples of two wings were "garib". It did not exist in Pakistan. Our living standard was much more high and people were very happy.Pakistan was a leading nation in the Third world countries. Pakistan's economy was "Nomuna" in developing countries. The people of Europe used to visit Pakistan both wings and were surprised to see the amazing development in agriculture.

@ Pakistan was the member of CENTO and SEATO. Pakistan had a defense pact with Australia and USA. Pakistan was the member of RCD. During 65 war Pakistan got help from Iran, Indonesia and other Muslim countries like Syria.