How can Egypt counter the F35i?

[Hamartia Antidote]

No, Israel can protest, but that's the limit of they can do, how effective their protest is differs.

Agreed. Egypt has tons of Abrams tanks and Saudi has tons of other equipment. I'm sure Israel wasn't giving a thumbs up to any of it.

 

[Falcon29]

I'll be the first one to admit that the Saudi Arabian BMs without an unconventional payload are useless, and they won't make a dent against any enemy.

Useless for Saudi Arabia, Egypt borders Israel. It used to have a chemical weapons program and needs to revive that.

 

[Desert Fox]

I'll be the first one to admit that the Saudi Arabian BMs without an unconventional payload are useless, and they won't make a dent against any enemy.

Are you hinting at something??

 

[Mosamania]

Agreed. Egypt has tons of Abrams tanks and Saudi has tons of other equipment. I'm sure Israel wasn't giving a thumbs up to any of it.

You can not order a land invasion if you can not control the skies, Military Science 101, Egypt can't go at it alone, and KSA can't go at it alone either, they would both lose individually against Israel. However if you put the two together, then that is a topic of an interesting conversation don't you think?

 

[flamer84]

I can live with that.
We have a good health-care system.

Still a bad ideea as you need all the money you can get and seeing how the Israelis have no qualms about selling technology to China I don't understand some of this European "hollier than the pope" attitude.

 

[Mosamania]

Useless for Saudi Arabia, Egypt borders Israel. It used to have a chemical weapons program and needs to revive that.

What does bordering a country has anything to do with the effectiveness of their BMs?

Still a bad ideea as you need all the money you can get and seeing how the Israelis have no qualms about selling technology to China I don't understand some of this European "hollier than the pope" attitude.

Saudi Arabia has 3 Erieye AWACs, courtesy of Sweeden, also a huuuuge missile factory that is going to start operation this year if all goes well.

 

[Desert Fox]

Okay you say a Ballistic Missile shower, I never said they were ALL going to be shut down, but enough of them will fall that they won't make any serious damage to the military machine. Enough to piss them off but not enough to kill.

I read from a Chinese thread where one of their latest Dong Feng series Ballistic Missiles travel at speeds of up to Mach 10 or more. That is one fast target for any ABM system to intercept.

But yes, i agree they won't win you the war, however they will make the enemy feel vulnerable and give you a psychological edge.

BM's, coupled with CM's, along with very effective Air Defence and AWAC's system is a very potent combination.

 

[Mosamania]

Are you hinting at something??

Maybe!

 

[UKBengali]

Yeah,i guess Liberal Sweden could be the tricky part but they sold to Pakistan so chances are good.As for the fighter options there wouldn't even be a debate and Egypt will have modern fighters + the latest missiles in ALL roles (BVR,CM,short range)-not to mentions that the latest generation of European missiles (meteor,irist t) are head and shoulders above whatever the Israeli got.

Throw in some MBDA SAM's (block 2 which comes in 2020) and the Egyptians are set.They need alot of money for these though.

EU would face massive US/Jewish pressure not to sell high-enough numbers of Typhoons/Rafales to Egypt that they have a better air-force than the Jews.

Saudi getting Typhoons was ok as they wont be targeting Jews with them.

 

[Falcon29]

What does bordering a country has anything to do with the effectiveness of their BMs?



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Difference of a short range ballistic missile over that of a long range one.

 

[Mosamania]

I read from a Chinese thread where one of their latest Dong Feng series Ballistic Missiles travel at speeds of up to Mach 10 or more. That is one fast target for any ABM system to intercept.

But yes, i agree they won't win you the war, however they will make the enemy feel vulnerable and give you a psychological edge.

BM's, coupled with CM's, along with very effective Air Defence and AWAC's system is a very potent combination.

Israel does not have a strategic depth, this is something they know very well, and ALL their military strategies have been trying to circumvent this shortfall. However, it is about dealing with these strategies.

Difference of a short range ballistic missile over that of a long range one.

Yeah, but Saudi Arabia is also extremely close to Israel and can target every inch of Israel as well. Okay here is a lesson for you Hazzy, don't think that Arabs are not attacking Israel because they are weak, and the moment they become strong enough they will take Israel down, Arabs are already stronger. However the fallout of such a war is not any Arab country is prepared to take.

 

[flamer84]

EU would fact massive US/Jewish pressure not to sell high-enough numbers of Typhoons/Rafales to Egypt that they have a better air-force than the Jews.

Saudi getting Typhoons was ok as they wont be targeting Jews with them.

They would sell in a moment if Egypt would be interested and had the money.

 

[Indos]

Dont forget to buy anti-satellite missile from China.....
Destroy their satellite first......before full scale war is approved

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

What does bordering a country has anything to do with the effectiveness of their BMs?



Saudi Arabia has 3 Erieye AWACs, courtesy of Sweden, also a huuuuge missile factory that is going to start operation this year if all goes well.

Export licenses getting tougher to get.
A deal to help KSA to buid a factory to refurbish AT Missiles will not get past the initial stage.
AWACS is less sensitive than lets say assault rifles, and other things directly useable in an insurgency.

 

[Desert Fox]

Maybe!

Here is the article on the Dong Feng 21D Ballistic Missile which has a range of 1,500 kilometers and was modified for and is accurate enough to hit a moving US Carrier Battle:

"U.S. naval planners are scrambling to deal with what analysts say is a game-changing weapon being developed by China – an unprecedented carrier-killing missile called the Dong Feng 21D that could be launched from land with enough accuracy to penetrate the defenses of even the most advanced moving aircraft carrier at a distance of more than 1,500 kilometers (900 miles).

The weapon, a version of which was displayed last year in a Chinese military parade, could revolutionize China's role in the Pacific balance of power, seriously weakening Washington's ability to intervene in any potential conflict over Taiwan or North Korea. It could also deny U.S. ships safe access to international waters near China's 11,200-mile (18,000-kilometer) -long coastline.

While China's Defense Ministry never comments on new weapons before they become operational, the DF 21D – which would travel at 10 times the speed of sound and carry conventional payloads – has been much discussed by military buffs online."

Dong Feng 21D, Chinese Missile, Could Shift Pacific Power Balance


@Hazzy997


@Mosamania

I read that Saudis have purchased DF series BM's from China??