Hitler's Speeches: Revisiting a Unique Phenomenon of History

[TechMan]

I personally believe the only reason Hitler is termed evil is because he lost the war and history is written by victors.

Moral of the story: Don't lose war

 

[Psychic]

although you might aks whether governments should be held responsible for the actions of commercial game developers and media corporation, some of which are to a greater or lesser extent foreign owned.

The people celebrate, that's it. Majority have no conscience.
Their governments justified waging wars on others based on lies. Examples; Iraq(2003) and Vietnam. The people still celebrate.

Just pointing out that always blaming a few nations for all evils in the world is actually weakening the selfimage and confidence. In that sense, it could also be considered insulting when you project that 'learned helplessness' onto others. Just something to consider. Improve the world, start with yourself.

A bully punching a skinny dude means that there is a fault in that skinny dude?

 

[Penguin]

Look at Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, in which of these countries locals carried the clout to be able to stop America from turning their country into a war zone?
I wasnt insulting anyone, au contraire I was pointing at the fact that the populace these countries were sitting ducks when America attacked them.

Read the history of Vietnam, that story is a little more complicated than "America attacks a country". If anything, the Vietnam war illustrated US impotence against a determined people(despite military might).

 

[Hassan_Ishtiaq]

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[Desert Fox]

Yeah sure, calling documented historical fact straws, that will work ;-)

I know for sure Rohm was summarily executed by SS (i.e. Nazi party paramilitary), not by German national army or German government. There was no trial, nothing. Normal government institutions were completely by passed. Name me the Eruopean countries where that was the norm at that time.

So what's wrong with that? NATO drone strikes kill foreign civilians without trial, Hitler executes a known conspirator and that's murder. That is the hypocrisy of your beloved allied propaganda.

THere are reams and reams of proof nazi's forcully sterilized and euthenized mentally ill, severely physically handicapped (e.g. people with the desease MS). Forced sterilization in Germany was the forerunner of the systematic killing of the mentally ill and the handicapped. You stated there was no such program because Goebbels had a crooked foot: you are obviously wrong.

And only simpletons to not comprehend the difference between forced and voluntary euthenasia: your point 4 simply has nothing to do with the program in Germany we are discussing.

Please explain how it is relevant that the Netherlands since 2002 has a law called "Termination of Life on Request and Assisted Suicide (Review Procedures) Act" which states that euthanasia and physician-assisted suicide are not punishable if the attending physician acts in accordance with criteria of due care. These criteria concern the patient's request, the patient's suffering (unbearable and hopeless), the information provided to the patient, the absence of reasonable alternatives, consultation of another physician and the applied method of ending life. To demonstrate their compliance, the Act requires physicians to report euthanasia to a review committee. It legalizes euthanasia and physician assisted suicide in very specific cases, under very specific circumstances.
Euthanasia in the Netherlands - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is what one can choose to do for example if you have a terminal cancer and you reach a point (or know that you will soon reach that point) where you can no longer bare treatment which does nothing but prolong your suffering.

How is that relevant to the program of Hitler half a century ago? You're just blowing smoke.

Sleep tight sweety. Sweet dreams about your ego.

So Hitler was STERILIZING handicap persons, NOT murdering them. Thanks for once again proving my point that Hitler wasn't killing anyone before 1939.

Now you sleep tight child. Sweet dreams about your ego.

 

[Penguin]

The people celebrate, that's it. Majority have no conscience.
Their governments justified waging wars on others based on lies. Examples; Iraq(2003) and Vietnam. The people still celebrate.

I'm not a representative of nor responsible for the American people in general.

A bully punching a skinny dude means that there is a fault in that skinny dude?

Your comment illustrates you've not understood.

 

[somebozo]

I personally believe the only reason Hitler is termed evil is because he lost the war and history is written by victors.

Moral of the story: Don't lose war

Yes that is true..Chengez Khan...was 10 times worst than Hitler when it comes to mass murdering yet Chengez and Taimur are heavily celebrated...even in some parts of the world which came directly under their mass murdering...

History is written by the victors..if you lost...people will find 100 things wrong with you but if you win..it was because you were right...no political movement can be successful without pairing it with economic and military success..usually economic success comes riding on the back of military success...

Hitler was bad..because..umm..somebody said soo...without comparitive reasoning..we must believe..Hitler was bad...

Hitler propelled Germans to economic prosperity and status in very short time however, it was also his stupidity which lost Germany..he should have stepped down..few years later after stabilizing Germany and would go down in history as the most powerful leader in the world..and his obsession with gassing helpless Jews with allowing wealthy to escape eventually played his own peril...because the poverty stricken German Jews were equally miserable and indebted to handful of social devils..

 

[Psychic]

I'm not a representative of nor responsible for the American people in general.

Since you have been defending them, you must also have the courage to bear responsibilities.

 

[MEAGAN FOXSS]

HITLER was a great man ! ! ! ! ! !

 

[Penguin]

Since you have been defending them, you must also have the courage to bear responsibilities.

Kindly quote the specifics posts then where I've been defending Americans. I challenge you to do so.

 

[Desert Fox]

Adolf Hitler: We Will Never Capitulate!

@DesertFox97 @Psychic @Akheilos @Falcon29​

 

[Levina]

Had Hitler not been such a disliked character (in history), I would have been his fan. Lolz
He had a lot of qualities which set him apart from others. A man of steel!!!

 

[The Sandman]

Adolf Hitler: We Will Never Capitulate!

@DesertFox97 @Psychic @Akheilos @Falcon29​

Yep i have heard that speech truly awesome thx for the tag btw @Desert Fox i always wanted to ask whom u like Hitler or Stalin?

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Had Hitler not been such a disliked character (in history), I would have been his fan. Lolz
He had a lot of qualities which set him apart from others. A man of steel!!!

He had great willpower,but glorification of hitler's leadership is silly.He made massive errors that doomed the germans to a catastrophic defeat.He was political genius ,but not a strategic one.His pre-war moves were unscrupulous ,brilliant and also part lucky..but after war started he declined rapidly.

1.Abandoning Battle of Britain midway,first by bombing London when RAF was near breaking point.Then instead of taking Gibraltar through spain and moving a larger part of the wehrmacht instead of rommel's tiny 3 division force into north africa and egypt and the oil fields of the middle east he would have solved the oil problem without ever having to invade russia and caucasus,it would also have surrounded russia from the south as well.Britain's empire would have collapsed as she didn't have eneough land forces to stop a full scale german attempt in the mediterranean.His abandonment of war against britain midway later led to 2-front war and defeat with british soil serving as bridgehead for normandy.

2.Declaring war on soviet union ignoring its manpower reserves or industrial potential,and assuming bolshevism will collapse and war will be over in 1 campaign before winter.

3.Declaring war on USA,greatest industrial power on the planet on behalf of japan,when japan refused to declare war on ussr.That too when fighting uk and ussr -total madness.

4.Refusal to believe intelligence reports on soviet reserves calling it a big bluff,and then taken totally aback when those very reserves encircle 6th army at stalingrad.Not allowing 6th army to retreat -leading to total annihilation.

5.Unlike stalin failed in grand strategy,despite all the talks of national socialism's power to mobilize nation failed to mobilize german economy for total war until late 1943.Failed to create a strategic reserve like stalin.Didn't understand value of mass production in industrial war.

6.Constant interference with field commanders,fascination with holding devastated territory even if strategically irrelevant leading to several encirclements.

7.Inability to sack or remove loyal party officials who were sycophants but incompetent and corrupt and hampering german war effort like Ley,goering.Deliberately promoted overlapping spheres of authority to empower his own leading to confusion and inefficiency.

8.Sparing the BEF at Dunkirk for inexplicable reason.

9.Failed to mobilize home front.Refused to use women in factories until late in the war.

10.Refused to let a pro-german russian force be raised until very late,because of his racial theories which would have alleviated manpower problem of wehrmacht.Brutal racial policy led to soviet people waging total war in return as they had no option.Totally underestimated russian resolve due to his ideas of racial superiority.

Demagoguery and fanaticism alone doesn't make a great leader.He had many impressive traits,but many fatal drawbacks too.

 

[Levina]

He had great willpower,but glorification of hitler's leadership is silly.He made massive errors that doomed the germans to a catastrophic defeat.He was political genius ,but not a strategic one.His pre-war moves were unscrupulous ,brilliant and also part lucky..but after war started he declined rapidly.

1.Abandoning Battle of Britain midway,first by bombing London when RAF was near breaking point.Then instead of taking Gibraltar through spain and moving a larger part of the wehrmacht instead of rommel's tiny 3 division force into north africa and egypt and the oil fields of the middle east he would have solved the oil problem without ever having to invade russia and caucasus,it would also have surrounded russia from the south as well.Britain's empire would have collapsed as she didn't have eneough land forces to stop a full scale german attempt in the mediterranean.His abandonment of war against britain midway later led to 2-front war and defeat with british soil serving as bridgehead for normandy.

2.Declaring war on soviet union ignoring its manpower reserves or industrial potential,and assuming bolshevism will collapse and war will be over in 1 campaign before winter.

3.Declaring war on USA,greatest industrial power on the planet on behalf of japan,when japan refused to declare war on ussr.That too when fighting uk and ussr -total madness.

4.Refusal to believe intelligence reports on soviet reserves calling it a big bluff,and then taken totally aback when those very reserves encircle 6th army at stalingrad.Not allowing 6th army to retreat -leading to total annihilation.

5.Unlike stalin failed in grand strategy,despite all the talks of national socialism's power to mobilize nation failed to mobilize german economy for total war until late 1943.Failed to create a strategic reserve like stalin.Didn't understand value of mass production in industrial war.

6.Constant interference with field commanders,fascination with holding devastated territory even if strategically irrelevant leading to several encirclements.

7.Inability to sack or remove loyal party officials who were sycophants but incompetent and corrupt and hampering german war effort like Ley,goering.Deliberately promoted overlapping spheres of authority to empower his own leading to confusion and inefficiency.

8.Sparing the BEF at Dunkirk for inexplicable reason.

9.Failed to mobilize home front.Refused to use women in factories until late in the war.

10.Refused to let a pro-german russian force be raised until very late,because of his racial theories which would have alleviated manpower problem of wehrmacht.Brutal racial policy led to soviet people waging total war in return as they had no option.Totally underestimated russian resolve due to his ideas of racial superiority.

Demagoguery and fanaticism alone doesn't make a great leader.He had many impressive traits,but many fatal drawbacks too.

I hate you for giving me 10 points to debate on
Anyways let me reason Out as to why he did what he did.

1. Battle of Britain-
The objective of the Nazi German forces was to increase pressure on Britain to agree to a negotiated peace settlement. Many historians say Germans were not serious about this battle.
Even if Luftwaffe destroyed the RAF - it was necessary to ensure a successful offensive landing - the formidable Royal Navy still had to be contained. This was not a task the German admiralty accepted with alacrity, as its fleet had suffered heavy losses in the Norway Campaign. Another reason why he backed off.

2. I agree. To Hitler this was an idealogical war. Had they not delayed attack on USSR, may be they still had a chance against Soviet Union for "General Winter" would not have arrived early.

3. I blame it on lend and lease treaty. US were indirectly participating in the war and supplying goods to UK,USSR and other countries- this violated laws of neutrality during war. I guess Hitler was expecting a war sooner or later with them.

4. Add to it the fact the army’s rapid expansion since Hitler’s seizure of power in 1933 had left it so short of qualified staff officers that everybody was too immersed in details, to have any energy left for evaluating the big picture.

But the reason why I said I would have been his fan was because he gave such powerful speeches, he was able to captivate(and manipulate) his audience with it. Imagine he managed this despite being an "Austrain born" German. (Yes, I know he believed in being a pan-Germanist ....reminds me of akhand Bharat Lolzzz).