Hatf-VIII Ra'ad II (ALCM) | Updates, News & Discussion

[Safriz]

Has anyone seen this photo of Raad before? Never seen a Raad with Black-red color scheme.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Has anyone seen this photo of Raad before? Never seen a Raad with Black-red color scheme.
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That's the very first test of RA'AD ALCM.
The rest of the tests conducted later on had either Red & Grey or Red & White color scheme.

 

[Super Falcon]

FATAH 1 seems to have better pin point accuracy than Raad and Buraq

 

[Cent4]

Anyone got any pictures of raad 2 from the parade today

 

[Deino]

Anyone got any pictures of raad 2 from the parade today

From the parade thread!

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

From the parade thread!

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It looks really compact. IMO a clear lock for the JF-17 @JamD

 

[Deino]

It looks really compact. IMO a clear lock for the JF-17 @JamD

Any idea if it will be compatible with the J-10C too? IMO the larger and more capable J-10C would make sense than the JF-17!

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Any idea if it will be compatible with the J-10C too? IMO the larger and more capable J-10C would make sense than the JF-17!

I imagine so, but it depends on how the PAF intends to use the J-10CE. It seems that the current primary role of the J-10CE (in the PAF) is air-to-air.

The PAF wants to make as many of the J-10CEs and F-16s available for BVR engagements. Logically, this means that the JF-17s and Mirages are going to be the main bomb trucks. In fact, those were the exact 2 fighter types the PAF used in the strike role back in Feb 2019 against India. So the processes and training for using the JF-17 in the SOW deployment role are already present.

The JF-17 is certainly smaller and lighter than the J-10CE, but the PAF's goal is to hit specific targets using precision stand-off weapons. It's not ideal, but if a JF-17 can deploy two SOWs and/or ALCMs, that's sufficient. You can use drones, GLCMs, MLRS etc to fill out the rest of the strike requirement. The J-10CEs and F-16s will provide the top cover and/or sweep.

That said, it seems that the PAF is open to using the J-10CE for the strike role. The PAF implied that the fighter can carry SOWs as-is. This may be something we see as the PAF builds out the J-10CE fleet (the minimum is always 90+ for a new fighter type).

 

[RAMPAGE]

It looks really compact. IMO a clear lock for the JF-17 @JamD

Bigger than the storm shadow or do they have comparable dimensions?

 

[Abramar]

Any idea if it will be compatible with the J-10C too? IMO the larger and more capable J-10C would make sense than the JF-17!

They already said the J-10C was an omni-role aircraft, including nuclear delivery. I don't see why it wouldn't be used with the J-10C

 

[Deino]

Anyone got any pictures of raad 2 from the parade today

Here the best image I found so far …

 

[RAMPAGE]

Here the best image I found so far …

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Do you think it's small enough to be carried by a JF-17?

 

[Deino]

Do you think it's small enough to be carried by a JF-17?

I think it could but does it make sense? Therefore my question if it makes not more sense to integrate it to the J-10C.

 

[RAMPAGE]

I think it could but does it make sense? Therefore my question if it makes not more sense to integrate it to the J-10C.

Why not both? J-10Cs may not always be available. The JF-17 is still a better platform to carry it than the Mirage, no?

 

[RAMPAGE]

Old variant

New variant

Changes: redesigned control surfaces, a new antenna, and redesigned air intake.