Has PAF Created It's Own 'Spice' Bomb

[khanasifm]

Raytheon pave way -III


http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app5/paveway-3.html

 

[airomerix]

It's a training round of an enhanced Paveway series.

Nothing like spice.

 

[Genghis khan1]

The weapon with blue casing certainly looks different from the standard LGBs in PAF inventory.

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Looks like a 2000 lbs free fall Bomb later attached with guidance kit, like JDAM but considering clear tip. It most likely has a cameras for pilot/ operator to make target adjustments.

 

[airomerix]

Are our F16s allowed to integerate any weapon we like?

Block 52's - no
MLU's - Only by Turkey
ADF's - We can arm them with PL-15's.

Also was there any bomb (Spice) which remained unexploded in 26th Feb?

Yes. It rests in the labs of Air Weapons Complex, Wah Cantt as we speak.

If no then How can exploded bombs be reverse engineered? Also do u guys think any technical reason why this weapon is not integerated on Mirage or Thunder?
@airomerix @Hodor @Knuckles @HRK @Dazzler

We have reverse engineered many weapons and systems in the past. Iranians are doing it everyday with downed US droned. It's not easy but it aint impossible.

JF-17s will have their own wide array of A2G stores. We are evaluating non Chinese options too. Let's see.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

MLU's - Only by Turkey

@dBSPL @CAN_TR guys do u have a BVR which has a range greater than AIM120C5?

ADF's - We can arm them with PL-15's.

Are their radars good enough for PL 15s?

We have reverse engineered many weapons and systems in the past. Iranians are doing it everyday with downed US droned. It's not easy but it aint impossible.

Hmmm. I have heard that Babur Cruise Missile was actually reversed engineer when Tomahawks crashed in Balochistan

 

[airomerix]

Are their radars good enough for PL 15s?

By good enough if you mean if they are track thus far of a lets say Mig 29 sized object. Yes.

But we will never do it. AMRAAM is a more than capable missile for anything Indians have right now.
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Hmmm. I have heard that Babur Cruise Missile was actually reversed engineer when Tomahawks crashed in Balochistan[/QUOTE]

Yaar ye saara credit goroun ko kyun de detay ho. Hum ne khud banaya hai Babur. :D

 

[Basel]

Spice uses satellite images to memorise the target and then guides itself to that target once dropped. Spice has been used by Israel several times in Syria & Iraq and hence Pakistan may already have got some bombs long time back. But to use it, Pakistan needs extensive network of accurate satellite cameras.

Even India does not make Spice bombs as India does not find meaning in making Spice as it is difficult to be used during major wars. Spice is only good for limited warfare due to its accuracy. But during major war, it is hard to take satellite images of every target and hence Spice becomes ineffiicient.

Pakistan already have Babur CM with similar capacity of picture matching.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Apparently IAF can't even use it in peacetime in a planned secretive attack.

Pakistan does not need to own the satellites, we have full access to Chinese satellites when it comes to watching over India.

Spice uses satellite images to memorise the target and then guides itself to that target once dropped. Spice has been used by Israel several times in Syria & Iraq and hence Pakistan may already have got some bombs long time back. But to use it, Pakistan needs extensive network
of accurate satellite cameras.

Even India does not make Spice bombs as India does not find meaning in making Spice as it is difficult to be used during major wars. Spice is only good for limited warfare due to its accuracy. But during major war, it is hard to take satellite images of every target and hence Spice becomes ineffiicient.

 

[Signalian]

SPICE is a guidance kit for a dumb bomb.
PAF uses JDAM guidance kit.

Both use GPS guidance

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Pakistan already have Babur CM with similar capacity of picture matching.

What about RA'AD and Takbir?

 

[kursed]

It’s GBU24-Paveway 3.

 

[Thorough Pro]

We are free to hang any weapon from F-16 harpoints as long is it does not depend on guidence onboard F-16 sensors. Any fire and forget weapon that is guided using GPS/Beidou, INS, TV Camera, Terrain mapping, or laser beam can be used without any problems.

We should consider that one cannot incorporate everything to F-16s without OEM. Another question comes to the mind if they will ever let us do so by our own? SAAB-2000 story is lot more than this one. We have our own version of Spice-2000; wouldn't be allowed onto F-16s or am I missing something here.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

The weapon with blue casing certainly looks different from the standard LGBs in PAF inventory.

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no offense to you since you do come up with amazing work but this (paf has came up with its own spice 2000 kit) needs to stop which is also all over youtube.
you do know paf needs permission from US for any changes or authorized weapon it adds on latest f16.
spice 2000 kits also require special mission computer that installs critical target information. g

 

[The Eagle]

Yes. It rests in the labs of Air Weapons Complex, Wah Cantt as we speak.

Those guys are legends. Not appreciated openly like other heroes but they are real deal for all the advancements of Air Weapons especially. The practice to not to reveal everything has many reasons, by officials and paying off very well since the enemy is in confusion and even underestimating us. My respects for them.

 

[Signalian]

The weapon with blue casing certainly looks different from the standard LGBs in PAF inventory.

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These are the post 2000's PAF acquisition for F-16:

-500 Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) Guidance Kits: GBU-31/38 Guided Bomb Unit (GBU) kits
-1,600 Enhanced Paveway GBU-12 (500 lb.) and GBU-24s (2,000 lb.) with dual laser/GPS guidance
-800 MK-82 500 pound General Purpose (GP) and MK-84 2,000 pound GP bombs
-700 BLU-109 2,000 pound bunker-buster external link bombs with the FMU-143 Fuse

Which one is in the pic you posted